Miklagard Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, kab60 said: That's not how these things work. He can't just pay 1B and walk away. What is this 1B everybody is talking about then? If something is wrong because of Twitter, he can legally get out and still have to pay 1B? Or is it Twitter that needs to pay 1B if court is deciding the <5% bot thing is a breach of agreement? Quite new to this, and willing to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartansaver Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 MNRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simba Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Miklagard said: What is this 1B everybody is talking about then? If something is wrong because of Twitter, he can legally get out and still have to pay 1B? Or is it Twitter that needs to pay 1B if court is deciding the <5% bot thing is a breach of agreement? Quite new to this, and willing to learn. Not really familiar with the deal, but maybe this help? It kind of reads that Elon owes $1B if he fails to perform his side of the deal, or if Twitter is willing/able and Elon cancels under a valid termination under certain specified circumstances I'm really far away from the details, so maybe others can chime in as well! " Upon valid termination of the merger agreement under certain specified circumstances, Parent will be required to pay, at the direction of Twitter, a termination fee of $1,000,000,000, the payment of which has been guaranteed pursuant and subject to the terms and conditions of the limited guaranty. Specifically, the termination fee will be payable by Parent to Twitter if the merger agreement is terminated by Twitter: • as a result of a breach or failure by Parent, Acquisition Sub or Mr. Musk to perform any of its respective representations, warranties, covenants or other agreements in the merger agreement (subject to a 30-day cure period), which breach or failure would give rise to the failure of relevant conditions to effect the closing of the merger; or • because Parent and Acquisition Sub failed to consummate the merger as required pursuant to, and in the circumstances specified in, and subject to the terms of, the merger agreement while Twitter stood ready, willing and able to consummate the merger and the other transactions contemplated by the merger agreement." PREM14A (sec.gov) Edited May 20, 2022 by Simba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPO Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Miklagard said: What is this 1B everybody is talking about then? If something is wrong because of Twitter, he can legally get out and still have to pay 1B? Or is it Twitter that needs to pay 1B if court is deciding the <5% bot thing is a breach of agreement? Quite new to this, and willing to learn. If you’re interested in this sort of thing you might consider TEN which frequently sports a 25-28% rate of return on the cash buyout price. Of course ATVI is another at a 22% potential return, but it’s close is further out and seems to have more political pushback, which is possibly just noise. I’m in on both because I have zero exposure to these businesses otherwise and am fine to own both if the deals don’t materialize and they drop 10-15%. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaygo Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I bought a bit of Aritzia, GFL, Smart centres, and Joe today. All current holdings but just adding on what seem to me like good prices when I had a slug of cash come in. I sold half my Brk at 331 on the way up and was in pain watching it get into the 360's I may just buy it all back now. I need to focus on work and am probably best putting my cash back in here and not watching the markets for a while. My customers are banging the door down so dicking around with stocks would be a poor waste of mental energy considering my trading portfolio size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab60 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Miklagard said: What is this 1B everybody is talking about then? If something is wrong because of Twitter, he can legally get out and still have to pay 1B? Or is it Twitter that needs to pay 1B if court is deciding the <5% bot thing is a breach of agreement? Quite new to this, and willing to learn. He needs a valid reason to walk - he can't just make up excuses and pay 1B. I think this sums it up pretty well: https://yetanothervalueblog.substack.com/p/twitter-the-circus-will-have-a-happy?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2&s=r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooDiligence Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 8 hours ago, kab60 said: He needs a valid reason to walk - he can't just make up excuses and pay 1B. I think this sums it up pretty well: https://yetanothervalueblog.substack.com/p/twitter-the-circus-will-have-a-happy?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2&s=r Nice find, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: Nice find, thanks. I think he can get out - happens all the time with mergers. Can't find financing etc., employees against him whatever. He does need to pay $1B most likely. NASDAQ comps (SNAP etc) have fallen ~25% since deal was announced. On a break, I think this could be a high twenties stock. Edited May 20, 2022 by Spekulatius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I expect I'll be buying a lot of JOE today. At the beginning of the month I wrote 5 put contracts expiring today at $50 strike. With the money I received for them my effective price is $47.98/share. It's trading at $47.92 right now as I type this, so I guess I didn't get a steal. I'll be keeping the shares though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooDiligence Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Spekulatius said: I think he can get out - happens all the time with mergers. Can't find financing etc., employees against him whatever. He does need to pay $1B most likely. NASDAQ comps (SNAP etc) have fallen ~25% since deal was announced. On a break, I think this could be a high twenties stock. Probably so, especially if it's at managements discretion. Musk seems to have some leverage over Jack. I haven't bought a ticket to the circus in a long time and will pass on this 3 ringer. I've finally shifted my attitude fully towards long term ownership stakes (for better or worse). Twitter may or may not be a good LT opportunity, but trying to make a quick buck on optics doesn't appeal to me. What I found interesting in the substack writeup was the part about Abbot Labs. I have no position there but my Mom does. She's owned since way before the AbbVie split. She's got some big deferred gains in both these issues. She and I look at her portfolio once or twice a year and the results have been fabulous. Virtually zero trading in her account although I did convince her to buy Disney and Dominos recently. edit: I've tried for years to convince her to get rid of ATT. Now she gets it after a decade of blah. I'm still sitting on about 14% investible cash + a 2 year cushion for living expenses. Looking at the fattest pitches for long term RBI's. May foul a few off as I DCA into positions. Edited May 20, 2022 by DooDiligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPO Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 BA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blugolds Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 little nibble on BRK and COST, hoping both continue to go down and I can add more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab60 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Spekulatius said: I think he can get out - happens all the time with mergers. Can't find financing etc., employees against him whatever. He does need to pay $1B most likely. NASDAQ comps (SNAP etc) have fallen ~25% since deal was announced. On a break, I think this could be a high twenties stock. Financing has long been lined up. I'm not a lawyer but reading the agreement it seems very tight. I'd say funding secured even... I also don't think the board can just 'drop' the deal due to unruly employees. I'd assume shareholders would sue their asses. At $37, it's clear there are risks. But I think people overestimate what Elon can do in this case with the facts at hand (might be famous last words/baggie quotes...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minseok Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 16 hours ago, Jaygo said: I bought a bit of Aritzia, GFL, Smart centres, and Joe today. All current holdings but just adding on what seem to me like good prices when I had a slug of cash come in. I sold half my Brk at 331 on the way up and was in pain watching it get into the 360's I may just buy it all back now. I need to focus on work and am probably best putting my cash back in here and not watching the markets for a while. My customers are banging the door down so dicking around with stocks would be a poor waste of mental energy considering my trading portfolio size Added some ATZ myself. I believe growth rates will justify its multiples. Its like a mini costco, very low capital invested for the revenues each new store generates. Also has very good accrual ratio. Recent promotion of COO to CEO is positive as I believe branding will be key going forward ( and she did a very good job of it as a COO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castanza Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 INTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james22 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 BRK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throw123 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 goog and fb. could be a case of cheaper not necessarily been cheap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross812 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, throw123 said: goog and fb. could be a case of cheaper not necessarily been cheap.... Same. Increased FB 25% today and GOOGL 40% today. Both are 12.5% positions now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepydragon Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 More baba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Repurchased some Berkshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longnose Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 MU 2024 Leaps $60 strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 GOOG, AMZN, FB, CRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa07 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 added to FB, IAC, Intel and NFLIX. Also added to BRK last Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross812 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Snapchat brought GOOG down 8%+ and FB 10%+ today. That is pretty astonishing really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ross812 said: Snapchat brought GOOG down 8%+ and FB 10%+ today. That is pretty astonishing really. Which is nonsense and just indicative of the general market looking for excuses to sell. Which is generally what happens when stuff is over owned. I’m kinda getting tempted on some of these, but not really. I think they stabilize and become dead money for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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