John Hjorth Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 hours ago, dealraker said: LOL, in my area John...not the brightest of the bunch of characters...we went to a county commissioners meeting recently, my entire family of businessmen went. It was about the use of Covid funds to build a 65 million dollar sportsplex way out in the middle of nowhere. The chairman of the commissioners quickly got overwhelmed and angry with the questions he was asked (he's 3 timer bankruptcy asphalt paving contractor) about this use of funds and stopped the discussion with: "I'm like Donald Trump; I know what's good for you and you are too stupid to know." That works for a lot of people, they want the big boss daddy who knows all to simply life for them (one-stop shopping). We are just down the road from a city that's literally bankrupt from building their massive sports complex...wrong location (like ours). Lots of promises for the economic benefits...down the road..........way down the road. In the meantime several of the commissioners are contractors bidding related to the 65 mil. Charlie [ @dealraker ], Interesting stuff!, LOL! I'm quite confident you already know [if not 'know', then - at least - 'recognize'] by now that I always appreciate your posts. All of them. It's all about sound reason, combined with rational thinking. - - - o 0 o - - - The real truth is this Friday has become the *sh*ttiest* Friday I've had in several years - Posting about it now would most likely not be as entertaining as posting about it here tomorrow! LOL!
RichardGibbons Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Sweet said: This is daft. It makes no sense to be cosying up to Xi and China just because you don’t like Trump. No need to worry--it's just 4-D chess. You see, Trump says tariffs are beneficial. So, Canada is being sneaky, tricking China into reducing its tariffs. Now China won't get any benefits from tariffs, hurting it greatly. What's more, Canada's actually sacrificing for the common good of North America by getting rid of some of its own tariffs as well. It's hard to imagine a bigger bilateral trade win for the USA than China and Canada foolishly removing their highly beneficial tariffs while the USA gets to reap all the tariff benefits for itself!
cwericb Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Sweet said: This is daft. It makes no sense to be cosying up to Xi and China just because you don’t like Trump. Really? The US decides they no longer want to trade with Canada and thereby puts Canada in a position of having to scramble to seek other trading partners and you think Canada should have Trump's approval on the country's trading partners?
cubsfan Posted January 16 Posted January 16 23 minutes ago, cwericb said: Really? The US decides they no longer want to trade with Canada and thereby puts Canada in a position of having to scramble to seek other trading partners and you think Canada should have Trump's approval on the country's trading partners? You ought to trade with China as much as you like. The US does plenty of trade with China. Do whatever is in your nations best interest. Hopefully they won't take all your jobs & intellectual property and be a great trading partner.
Sweet Posted January 16 Posted January 16 40 minutes ago, cwericb said: Really? The US decides they no longer want to trade with Canada and thereby puts Canada in a position of having to scramble to seek other trading partners and you think Canada should have Trump's approval on the country's trading partners? Why are you pretending that I said Canada needs Trump’s to approve Canada's trading partners? During the Canadian election Carney said China, not Trump or the US, was Canada’s biggest threat: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/china-is-biggest-threat-from-geopolitical-sense-says-canada-pm-mark-carney-8200216/amp/1 So he goes and makes deal with an actual dictator, and a country which is far closer to be fascist than the US, and everyone is clapping like seals. Principles huh?
Gregmal Posted January 17 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Sweet said: Principles huh? All you can do is sit back and enjoy the show!
Spekulatius Posted January 17 Posted January 17 20 hours ago, Marco Van Basten said: You do realize that that's the rule in France and other European countries? While I disagree with Noem, I think that you are being absurd by casting everyone you disagree with as a fascist. You do not even know what that means. In a fascist country you'd be in a concentration camp or hanging from a lampost for your opinions. Learn some history, comrade! Regards, Dr Faustus. It’s correct, but everyone gets an ID card for free. What would happen if ICE goes into bumblefuck Trumper rural village and round up everyone who can’t produce documents? I bet 2/3 don’t have a passport and some probably lost their birth certificate. Driving licenses don’t count. Give them 3 days in a detention camp and if they can’t get their docs deport them to San Salvador, it’s their problem to find a way to get back. Sorry, but rules are rules.
Spekulatius Posted January 17 Posted January 17 9 hours ago, Sweet said: Also a ridiculous thing to say. Applying immigration law does make you a fascist. Asking for ID doesn’t make you a fascist. Wise up. Actually you don’t have an ID card in the USA, We have drive licenses ( which don’t really prove much), passports or birth certificates instead. Yes, people indeed bring birth certificates here to prove who they are.
cwericb Posted January 17 Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Sweet said: Why are you pretending that I said Canada needs Trump’s to approve Canada's trading partners? During the Canadian election Carney said China, not Trump or the US, was Canada’s biggest threat: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/china-is-biggest-threat-from-geopolitical-sense-says-canada-pm-mark-carney-8200216/amp/1 So he goes and makes deal with an actual dictator, and a country which is far closer to be fascist than the US, and everyone is clapping like seals. Principles huh? Principles and facts? So Sweet, let me try to explain a few things to you. First, that quote of yours was from nearly a year ago. Things have drastically changed in the world since then. Try to keep up. Secondly, Donald Trump has made it very clear that he would like to annex Canada. In an effort to do so he is trying to make it difficult economically for Canada and he has made it very clear the United States does not want to do business with Canada. Therefore, Canada has suddenly been put in a position where it must look for new trading partners to replace the US. Obviously, choices of potential trading partners is limited. Therefore, it is Donald Trump who has put Canada in a position where it does not have the luxury to pick and chose what countries it does business with and China is one of the obvious choices. But as far as Canada doing business with China - those "fascist dictators" - is concerned, well surprise surprise! Total Canada-China trade is just a tiny fraction of US-China trade. So when you say ... "So he goes and makes deal with an actual dictator, and a country which is far closer to be fascist than the US, and everyone is clapping like seals." ... perhaps you should look in your own back yard before climbing up on your pulpit to express your "holier than thou" opinions. When criticizing Canada for dealing with China, you might want to actually fact check which countries are really doing the most business with your "fascists and dictators". Canada doesn't even register..........
LC Posted January 17 Posted January 17 The grift continues at America's expense: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-hands-first-sale-swiped-150105918.html?guccounter=1
Sweet Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 5 hours ago, cwericb said: Principles and facts? So Sweet, let me try to explain a few things to you. First, that quote of yours was from nearly a year ago. Things have drastically changed in the world since then. Try to keep up. Secondly, Donald Trump has made it very clear that he would like to annex Canada. In an effort to do so he is trying to make it difficult economically for Canada and he has made it very clear the United States does not want to do business with Canada. Therefore, Canada has suddenly been put in a position where it must look for new trading partners to replace the US. Obviously, choices of potential trading partners is limited. Therefore, it is Donald Trump who has put Canada in a position where it does not have the luxury to pick and chose what countries it does business with and China is one of the obvious choices. But as far as Canada doing business with China - those "fascist dictators" - is concerned, well surprise surprise! Total Canada-China trade is just a tiny fraction of US-China trade. So when you say ... "So he goes and makes deal with an actual dictator, and a country which is far closer to be fascist than the US, and everyone is clapping like seals." ... perhaps you should look in your own back yard before climbing up on your pulpit to express your "holier than thou" opinions. When criticizing Canada for dealing with China, you might want to actually fact check which countries are really doing the most business with your "fascists and dictators". Canada doesn't even register.......... Things have not dramatically changed. Trump was saying these before the Canadian election - go back and look. Canada isn’t at war, please stop acting like it choosing to ally with the Soviet Union to fight Nazi Germany during world war 2. On trade, you must be unfamiliar with my posts, I have consistently said we need to stop feeding our geopolitical rival (China) with trade. It’s not like I make economic policy or support the policy, but at least I’ve been consistent for years, so it’s not a gotcha. I’ve not been ranting and raving about the imagined dictator - Trump - and then cheering a newly cemented strategic partnership with an actual dictator Xi. Edited January 17 by Sweet
John Hjorth Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 16 hours ago, John Hjorth said: Charlie [ @dealraker ], Interesting stuff!, LOL! I'm quite confident you already know [if not 'know', then - at least - 'recognize'] by now that I always appreciate your posts. All of them. It's all about sound reason, combined with rational thinking. - - - o 0 o - - - The real truth is this Friday has become the *sh*ttiest* Friday I've had in several years - Posting about it now would most likely not be as entertaining as posting about it here tomorrow! LOL! Today : Greenlandic organizations call for demonstrations for unity and support for Greenland In the four largest cities in Southern Denmark : Copenhagen, Aarhus, Aaborg & Odense plus in Nuuk, Greenland. - - - o 0 o - - - Edit : Here, a picture from Gråbrødre Plads in central Odense, likely shot within the last hour or so : Lots of people there, it isen't raining, obviously, from the photo, - otherwise I think the whole place would be empty! lol! - There is a saying in Danish about the Danes, here translated to English : 'It is impossible to carry out a revolution in Denmark when it rains.' : - - - o 0 o - - - And all five places there are TV-reporters interviewing people 'Please tell us How you do you feel about this and how are you personally affected by this?' - - - o 0 o - - - I just heard and saw an interview in inner Copenhagen with a school kiddo named Camilla [likely around 12, or so] with worried tone and appearance, looking into the camera lens , preaching in a patronizing tone adressed towards DJT [79] : 'You can't get everything you want!'. [<- lol!] This whole thingy is just soo friggin' crazy! - - - o 0 o - - - On Reuters, a whole block on main page : On Associated Press [AP News] : Edited January 17 by John Hjorth
Gregmal Posted January 17 Posted January 17 https://nypost.com/2026/01/16/world-news/greenlanders-speak-out-against-danish-rule-they-stole-our-future/
cwericb Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sweet said: Things have not dramatically changed. Trump was saying these before the Canadian election - go back and look. Oh? Tell that to Venezuela and Denmark/Greenland and see if they don't perceive things to be more serious than a year ago. Canada isn’t at war, please stop acting like it choosing to ally with the Soviet Union to fight Nazi Germany during world war 2. You are in the UK, right? You might feel different if you had foreign military forces and heavily armed thugs roaming the streets within walking distance of your country. And then have that same country making threats to take over your country. On trade, you must be unfamiliar with my posts, I have consistently said we need to stop feeding our geopolitical rival (China) with trade. It’s not like I make economic policy or support the policy, but at least I’ve been consistent for years, so it’s not a gotcha. Again you are detached from Canada's situation. I don't have time to educate you in this, but suffice it to say that we have suddenly lost our biggest trading partner and are left in a position where we can't be choosey as to whom we do business with. Even so, our trade with China is so small in comparison to the US and the EU as to be inconsequential. I’ve not been ranting and raving about the imagined dictator - Trump - and then cheering a newly cemented strategic partnership with an actual dictator Xi. Your views on that are hardly unopinionated. And some would consider your thinking rather naive. Edited January 17 by cwericb
SharperDingaan Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Gregmal said: https://nypost.com/2026/01/16/world-news/greenlanders-speak-out-against-danish-rule-they-stole-our-future/ Ultimately it will come down to a referendum; the population of Greenland electing to become either a US territory similar to a Puerto Rico, or a US state similar to Alaska, or remain as a Danish territory. Denmark/NATO having a cost/security incentive to let the US win ... by not campaigning too hard. Not what many would prefer to hear. SD Edited January 17 by SharperDingaan
John Hjorth Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gregmal said: https://nypost.com/2026/01/16/world-news/greenlanders-speak-out-against-danish-rule-they-stole-our-future/ Greg [ @Gregmal ], You seem to me personally to have a quite balanced view on on all this Greenland fuzz, this 'thingy', meant in a positive way here. There is a dark, dim side in history about the relations between Denmark and Greenland, that Danes [, including I] today aren't proud of, I can assure you. This IUD story mentioned by you is true in all it dread, horror. It makes me cringe. Imagine this was carried out by persons who had taken the Hippocratic oath. I think all involved women still alive have been compensated with DKK 300 K by the Danish state. [DKK 300 K is a bit less than USD 50 K.] I don't know if any of the women compensated have taken legal steps to test the compensation size in the Danish court system, but I sincerely hope they all together do it, honestly. How does one measure in money a compensation for being deprived of your ability to get kids while young because of something like this? Edited January 17 by John Hjorth
73 Reds Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 46 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: Greg [ @Gregmal ], You seem to me personally to have a quite balanced view on on all this Greenland fuzz, this 'thingy', meant in a positive way here. There is a dark, dim side in history about the relations between Denmark and Greenland, that Danes [, including I] today aren't proud of, I can assure you. This IUD story mentioned by you is true in all it dread, horror. It makes me cringe. Imagine this was carried out by persons who had taken the Hippocratic oath. I think all involved women still alive have been compensated with DKK 300 K by the Danish state. [DKK 300 K is a bit less than USD 50 K.] I don't know if any of the women compensated have taken legal steps to test the compensation size in the Danish court system, but I sincerely hope they all together do it, honestly. How does one measure in money a compensation for being deprived of your ability to get kids while young because of something like this? There does not seem to be a clear consensus of what Greenlanders want. Perhaps they don't even know what they want. Wanting "independence" comes with all types of consequences that no one wants to address. From an outside perspective the population now seems to be in a very good bargaining position and needs leadership and guidance from within. Edited January 17 by 73 Reds word
John Hjorth Posted January 17 Posted January 17 DRM News [January 17th 2026] : US Lawmakers Reject Trump's Greenland Takeover Talk, Stress Denmark Alliance | AC1G This is the way to go. Nice to see and hear, that there are persons involved, who practices discussion for mutual understanding, based on reason and rational thinking. That said, I speculate there exists confusion internally in POTUS' cabinet about what POTUS is doing and saying related to Greenland. As far as I've understood of the 11, 2 rebublicans, all 11 going back in their individual political networks with achieved findings, information, impressions and assessments.
Gregmal Posted January 17 Posted January 17 48 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: Greg [ @Gregmal ], You seem to me personally to have a quite balanced view on on all this Greenland fuzz, this 'thingy', meant in a positive way here. There is a dark, dim side in history about the relations between Denmark and Greenland, that Danes [, including I] today aren't proud of, I can assure you. This IUD story mentioned by you is true in all it dread, horror. It makes me cringe. Imagine this was carried out by persons who had taken the Hippocratic oath. I think all involved women still alive have been compensated with DKK 300 K by the Danish state. [DKK 300 K is a bit less than USD 50 K.] I don't know if any of the women compensated have taken legal steps to test the compensation size in the Danish court system, but I sincerely hope they all together do it, honestly. How does one measure in money a compensation for being deprived of your ability to get kids while young because of something like this? I honestly dont have the slightest clue what Greenlanders want. Maybe, perhaps, it's similar to these Amazonian tribal people.....we are fascinated by them, but they...just want to be left alone LOL I really dont know. But it's cool because Ive learned way more about Greenland in the last few months than I ever would have if the world wasnt so eager for conflict.
cubsfan Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Heck, the big winner in all of this is bound to be the Greenlanders. 20% of Greenlanders live in poverty - twice the rate of the Danes. All this attention from Trump is a blessing for Greenland.
73 Reds Posted January 17 Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Heck, the big winner in all of this is bound to be the Greenlanders. 20% of Greenlanders live in poverty - twice the rate of the Danes. All this attention from Trump is a blessing for Greenland. Yep, we're seeing it the same way. But as usual it is all too convenient to blame Trump.
John Hjorth Posted January 17 Posted January 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: There does not seem to be a clear consensus of what Greenlanders want. Perhaps they don't even know what they want. Wanting "independence" comes with all types of consequences that no one wants to address. From an outside perspective the population now seems to be in a very good bargaining position and needs leadership and guidance from within. @73 Reds, That's right, too. I'm brewing on a post about exactly that, trying to dig up some hard data, to back,as basis. It takes some time. Remember POTUS in his 45th talking about '...it's just another real estate deal with a negative carry of 600 million ... [USD, John]'. It's in a way true : - - - o 0 o - - - That's the central issue here, the leftist part of political Greenland is stirring the pot here, trying to take political advantage of the actual situation created by POTUS, the Greenlandic political left yelling about independence, thinking the annual 'block grant', subsidy from Southern Denmark will continue after independence [, or are they just so dumb that they have chosen to ignore it? lol!] The Greenlandic people can already have their full independence if they want, if they chose so, they are making a serious miscalculation thinking the block grant then will continue. That's naturally not going to happen. I can assure you, no way. So, Greenlandic people : Q : What do you want to back slide into? The Stone Age, or The Ice Age, if you want want full independence? A: That depends only on if you believe in global warming, or not! [, or do you want to be part of the US Healthcare system, in stead of the Danish?][lol!] Edited January 17 by John Hjorth
73 Reds Posted January 17 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, John Hjorth said: @73 Reds, That's right, too. I'm brewing on a post about exactly that, trying to dig up some hard data, to back,as basis. It takes some time. Remember POTUS in his 45th talking about '...it's just another real estate deal wikth a negative carry og 600 million ... [USD, John]'. It's in a way true : - - - o 0 o - - - That's the central issue here, the leftist part of political Greenland is stirring the pot here, trying to take political advantage of the actual situation created by POTUS, yelling about independence, thinking the annual 'block grant', subsidy from Southern Denmark will continue after independence [, or are they just so dumb that they have chosen to ignore it? lol!] The Greenlandic people can already have their full independance if they want, if they chose so, they are making a serious miscalculation thinking the block grant then will continue. It's naturally not going to happen. I can assure you, no way. So, Greenlandic people : Q : What do you want to back slide into? The Stone Age, or The Ice Age, if you want want full independence? A: That depends only on if you believe in global warming, or not! [, or do you want to be part of the US Healthcare system, in stead of the Danish?][lol!] From a 64,000 foot vantage point it can't be bad for the people of Greenland to be the object of a bidding war. They just need to navigate the process to their best advantage.
LC Posted January 17 Posted January 17 State of affairs this Saturday morning: The true Greenland conspiracy - loser parasites need a fresh host (they're as ugly as their wives - I think we are getting close to the root of the problem): https://newrepublic.com/article/205102/oligarchs-pushing-conquest-greenland-trump Not to worry, while the unloved and underendowed oligarchs of the West attempt to suck the life out of Greenland, you too can feast on a healthy and affordable Trump meal! https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-goons-boast-they-ran-1000-simulations-to-create-tragic-3-meal/ On the other end of both the income and intelligence spectrum, the oversupplied (but similarly underendowed) goon squad continue their warrant-less terror campaign. Where's the war, you ask? It's right at home! (too expensive to export with the tariff war, I suppose) But that wouldn't impact you, right? Just make sure you're not driving home with your child in the car, not in Trump's America. Remember, it's YOUR FAULT! Thanks for tuning into another Saturday morning shitfest! Troubling times in the kingdom... To all our non-American posters, while we do appreciate your sympathy, we kindly ask you to join in our daily prayers for a loose blood clot.
Spekulatius Posted January 17 Posted January 17 21 hours ago, NnnnotSoSmart said: Nobel Prize winner gives prize to the real Nobel Prize Winner. Trump Accepts Machado’s Nobel Peace Prize During White House Visit https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/machado-leaves-white-house-visit-with-little-to-show-4948d90f?st=GhFHcP&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink Waiting for Obama to give his to Trump as well. Still waiting.... Well, she got a bag of trinkets from Trump in return. Fair deal.
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