dealraker Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 26 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Fair enough. Thus far on nearly every issue important to me the arrow points in his favor. 26 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Fair enough. Thus far on nearly every issue important to me the arrow points in his favor. Yea he's had a success or two for sure. I think the costs of such are in process of arrival though.
73 Reds Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 1 minute ago, dealraker said: Yea he's had a success or two for sure. I think the costs of such are in process of arrival though. Always the caveat. Isn't there a cost to everything?
TwoCitiesCapital Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 There were problems with the Biden's - for sure. But ignoring what is happening under Trump because "what about the Bidens" ignores the dramatic difference in scale between the two If you believe everything coming out of the Trump administration (a big ask!), the total the Biden family received from foreign entities for "influence peddling" was ~$20-30 million over the 12 years he was VP and then President. DJT just accepted a $100-150 million plane directly from a foreign government. In his first 6-months in office.... Biden's net worth when taking presidential office was estimated to be $8 million. Leaving office was estimated to be ~$40 million. Assuming it was all ill-gotten, that is ~$32 million of corrupt gains. DJT family have raked in over $600 million from crypto based 'scams' in just his first 6 months.... There is NO comparison in the scale of grift that is going on. If you're point is to be 'objective' - it starts with admitting that these are in no way comparable in scale and one of these is WAY worse than the other
dwy000 Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 1 hour ago, TB said: Canadian immigration to the US continues to be high; don't see it changing any time soon. Canada produces 60-70K computer science graduates each year and there are only 6-7 thousand open jobs for new grads and for people looking to change their jobs in Canada in this sector. Unemployment is at 7%+ in Canada. These folks have to find job in other sectors or move to the United States for work. Don't see them moving to China or Russia for a job. The Canadian economy has not done well from 2015-2025 averaging about 1% growth at best or lower. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10-year-high-1.7218479 That article was from March 2024. I also have to question the source of the claim that there are only 6-7k job openings for software engineers each year. China and Russia aren't the only alternatives to the US for foreign employment. Theres Europe, Australia, Asia etc.
LC Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 1 hour ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: Biden's net worth when taking presidential office was estimated to be $8 million. Leaving office was estimated to be ~$40 million. Assuming it was all ill-gotten, that is ~$32 million of corrupt gains. DJT family have raked in over $600 million from crypto based 'scams' in just his first 6 months.... There is NO comparison in the scale of grift that is going on. If you're point is to be 'objective' - it starts with admitting that these are in no way comparable in scale and one of these is WAY worse than the other The goal is to rationalize and hand-wave away Trump's unethical and criminal behavior.
Spekulatius Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 11 hours ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: There were problems with the Biden's - for sure. But ignoring what is happening under Trump because "what about the Bidens" ignores the dramatic difference in scale between the two If you believe everything coming out of the Trump administration (a big ask!), the total the Biden family received from foreign entities for "influence peddling" was ~$20-30 million over the 12 years he was VP and then President. DJT just accepted a $100-150 million plane directly from a foreign government. In his first 6-months in office.... Biden's net worth when taking presidential office was estimated to be $8 million. Leaving office was estimated to be ~$40 million. Assuming it was all ill-gotten, that is ~$32 million of corrupt gains. DJT family have raked in over $600 million from crypto based 'scams' in just his first 6 months.... There is NO comparison in the scale of grift that is going on. If you're point is to be 'objective' - it starts with admitting that these are in no way comparable in scale and one of these is WAY worse than the other Whee do you get the $40M for Biden net worth from? I think the financial disclosures indicate that his net worth was ~$11M (mostly homes) and didn’t do really change that much during his presidency. I think the $40M comes from social media posts that were all debunked. Edited July 3, 2025 by Spekulatius
TwoCitiesCapital Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 55 minutes ago, Spekulatius said: Whee do you get the $40M for Biden net worth from? I think the financial disclosures indicate thtnhis net wohl was ~$11M (mostly homes) and didn’t do really change that much during his presidency. I think the $40M comes from social media posts that were all debunked. The net worth data was scraped off Google searches. Perhaps it was was exaggerated/debunked. Point was even if you believe the most egregious numbers about the Biden's over his 12 years in office, it pales in comparison by orders of magnitude to Trump's first 6 months of this term....
Santayana Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 On 7/1/2025 at 3:50 PM, cubsfan said: It's really amazing after the greatest week of any US President in modern times. I know TDS is a real thing, but TWS (Trump Worship Syndrome) needs to be called out more.
Parsad Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 14 hours ago, changegonnacome said: I think that's a very legitimate position......the alternatives are/were poor, very poor and I acknowledge that.....however the 'no alternative' position is a form of apathy which perpetuates poor candidates, poor governance over time.....you've got to call Trump out for his bullshit even with the context that the alternative to Trump in 2024 was poor. +1! Cheers!
Parsad Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 13 hours ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: There were problems with the Biden's - for sure. But ignoring what is happening under Trump because "what about the Bidens" ignores the dramatic difference in scale between the two If you believe everything coming out of the Trump administration (a big ask!), the total the Biden family received from foreign entities for "influence peddling" was ~$20-30 million over the 12 years he was VP and then President. DJT just accepted a $100-150 million plane directly from a foreign government. In his first 6-months in office.... Biden's net worth when taking presidential office was estimated to be $8 million. Leaving office was estimated to be ~$40 million. Assuming it was all ill-gotten, that is ~$32 million of corrupt gains. DJT family have raked in over $600 million from crypto based 'scams' in just his first 6 months.... There is NO comparison in the scale of grift that is going on. If you're point is to be 'objective' - it starts with admitting that these are in no way comparable in scale and one of these is WAY worse than the other +1! Cheers!
Parsad Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 10 hours ago, TB said: You can ask perplexity or google. Here is another data point from Perplexity about Canada economy Per capita GDP in Canada has declined over the past several years. Real GDP per capita has been falling since mid-2019 and, as of the first quarter of 2024, is about 3.1% below its mid-2019 level, marking one of the longest and deepest declines in the past four decades14. From April 2019 to the end of 2023, inflation-adjusted per-person GDP fell 3% (from $59,905 to $58,111)1. Per capita GDP has now declined in five of the past six quarters and is currently near levels last seen in 20173. Between the second quarter of 2022 and the final quarter of 2023, per-person GDP dropped by 3.4% in inflation-adjusted terms2. As of mid-2025, per-capita GDP has fallen for six consecutive quarters, and eight out of the last nine quarters5. You are not getting proper information by using AI chatbots...geez, how many people are doing this now and not getting all of the data?! Let's look at more recent articles...the trends you refer to have been for the last few years...but decreased in 2024, and I would imagine decreased even further in 2025. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/36-28-0001/2025003/article/00004-eng.htm https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/canadian-immigrants-united-states Cheers!
73 Reds Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 10 hours ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: The net worth data was scraped off Google searches. Perhaps it was was exaggerated/debunked. Point was even if you believe the most egregious numbers about the Biden's over his 12 years in office, it pales in comparison by orders of magnitude to Trump's first 6 months of this term.... Biden is a lifetime politician. Trump is a real estate developer and promoter. He owns a brand. Whose net worth would you expect to increase the most?
73 Reds Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 9 hours ago, Santayana said: I know TDS is a real thing, but TWS (Trump Worship Syndrome) needs to be called out more. I think you confuse TWS with a simple reaction to TDS. Trump was and is a rebellion against the Democratic Party which continues to embarrass itself on nearly every material issue. They earned and deserve Trump's current term in office. Same goes for mainstream media which is directly responsible for the rise and popularity of Fox News.
LC Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: Biden is a lifetime politician. Trump is a real estate developer and promoter. He owns a brand. Whose net worth would you expect to increase the most? Good point - Trump is indeed a much better thief, probably due to his sleazy nature getting started as a NYC slumlord.
jjsto Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 Article from a couple of months ago on scale of family businesses. https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-trump-family-presidency-wealth/?ai=eyJpc1N1YnNjcmliZWQiOnRydWUsImFydGljbGVSZWFkIjpmYWxzZSwiYXJ0aWNsZUNvdW50IjowLCJ3YWxsSGVpZ2h0IjoxfQ==
whiskybravo Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 29 minutes ago, jjsto said: Article from a couple of months ago on scale of family businesses. https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-trump-family-presidency-wealth/?ai=eyJpc1N1YnNjcmliZWQiOnRydWUsImFydGljbGVSZWFkIjpmYWxzZSwiYXJ0aWNsZUNvdW50IjowLCJ3YWxsSGVpZ2h0IjoxfQ== Guys everyone, even his supporters, know exactly who Trump is. If you think shining a light on all this will snap people out of their apathy or whatever you want call it, continue on with your mission. The truth is people feel better off with his policies. Well, maybe not single white women. Edited July 3, 2025 by whiskybravo
cubsfan Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 ^^^ Yup, his policies have been amazing. He basically ran the table in June. The naysayers will nitpick all day long, as you can tell, - now we are back to the old BS - "The convicted felon" stuff - as there is no new material for the left - they need to recycle. Pretty soon, we will be hearing about Russian collusion again...
Parsad Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 21 minutes ago, TB said: Thank you Parsad - I am hearing the job situation in Canada is way worse than the United States for Computer Science grads from my Canada friends. Is the per capita GDP going negative in Canada correct? Don't think a President will get re-elected in the US with a consistent negative GDP print. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/250530/t006a-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/250530/cg-a001-eng.htm I would imagine there will be some contraction in the next few quarters due to the tariff issue. Canada will probably go through a recession...maybe already beginning it. But as you can see from Statistics Canada above...while growth has been slow...there has been growth for the last several years. Tech jobs are more prevalent in the U.S. It's why so many people go there to work from other countries, including Canada. But the tech industry overall in Canada is growing. Cheers!
Parsad Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 So Cubs, who is responsible for this...Biden or Trump? Cheers! https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-labor-market-adds-147000-jobs-in-june-while-unemployment-falls-to-41-192105531.html
Parsad Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 6 minutes ago, TB said: Thanks @Parsad but it looks like per capita gdp has contracted? My friends (Canada) think the government made Canada a dump but may be they have TDS as well (Trudeu Derangement Syndrome). From perplexity again Approximately 43% of young Canadians aged 18 to 34 would like to become Americans—if certain conditions are met. Specifically, this willingness is contingent on guarantees such as full U.S. citizenship and the conversion of their Canadian financial assets into U.S. dollars12345. This sentiment is especially pronounced among young Canadian men, with polls indicating that nearly half in this demographic would accept U.S. citizenship under these favorable circumstances, largely motivated by perceived economic opportunities and job prospects6. It is important to note that, despite this significant minority, the majority of Canadians—especially outside the 18-34 age group—remain strongly committed to Canadian national identity and would not support becoming American without such guarantees1645. I think Perplexity is giving you inaccurate information. Cheers!
changegonnacome Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-07-02/donald-trump-net-worth-620-million-of-crypto-wealth-reshapes-fortune?sref=7zqHEcxJ Trump used to be a real estate developer > then he became a TV personality & a brand > then he became President > after that he became a stock promoter > then he became a crypto grifter > then he became President again......predominately now by net worth he's a seller of various investment opportunities (& cell phone plans)......as if Jordan Belfort became President of the United States but maintained, in plain sight, his boiler room operation in Long Island. Say what you will about Donald Trump - I care little for him as a human being - but he is a remarkable financial cockroach. Edited July 3, 2025 by changegonnacome
cubsfan Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 Big Beautiful Bill passed. He keeps winning - promises made, promises kept. Everyday is Christmas with Trump. Happy 4th!
changegonnacome Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, cubsfan said: Big Beautiful Bill passed. He keeps winning - promises made, promises kept. Everyday is Christmas with Trump. Happy 4th! I was skeptical - but he did it, it’s a massive achievement in the exercise of power and influence that he herded and whipped a tiny majority across both houses to deliver a consequential piece of legislation….I disagree with much of its contents and intent but that’s a different topic ….but agree @cubsfan it’s a huge win and political achievement for Trump. Hats off to him. Edited July 4, 2025 by changegonnacome
cwericb Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 3 hours ago, cubsfan said: Big Beautiful Bill passed. He keeps winning - promises made, promises kept. Everyday is Christmas with Trump. Happy 4th! Boy ya certainly have got that right Cubs! "Everyday is Christmas with Trump." Dude's not Christmas gifting Cubs , He is Grifting, not Gifting. "A grifter is a person who engages in grifting, often using charm, persuasion, or deceit to manipulate others. Grifting in a Sentence: “The con artist was a skilled grifter, convincing people to invest in a fake business before disappearing with their money.”"
Xerxes Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 9 hours ago, Parsad said: I think Perplexity is giving you inaccurate information. Cheers! I agree that is non sense. any Canadian who wants to become American can move south. The border will not move. Thank you for your attention.
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