changegonnacome Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 (edited) On 6/25/2025 at 10:41 AM, Gregmal said: So this whole thing is over semantics? Nice No — it's a fundamental question of whether Iran does or does not retain any nuclear capability. That’s not a semantic distinction, it’s a categorical one. Hence why the administration/Hegseth continues to tie itself in knots over what Trump said Saturday night and the news cycle around it hasn't stopped. The President spouted complete and utter bullshit to the American people on a deeply deeply consequential question. Like a child that's been caught out in a fib - the President & his team can't quite seem to find a formulation of words or a position that doesn’t expose the utter absurdity of the original claim. Edited June 27, 2025 by changegonnacome
dealraker Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 16 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: No — it's a fundamental question of whether Iran does or does not retain any nuclear capability. That’s not a semantic distinction, it’s a categorical one. Hence why the administration/Hegseth continues to tie itself in knots over what Trump said Saturday night and the news cycle around it hasn't stopped. The President spouted complete and utter bullshit to the American people on a deeply deeply consequential question. Like a child that's been caught out in a fib - the President & his team can't quite seem to find a formulation of words or a position that doesn’t expose the utter absurdity of the original claim. I just wanna know who in hell is responsible for Donnie John's face coloring as his oval office condemnation calling Powell low IQ and stupid was quite the brown-out! Beyond the shoulder pads etc they are doing the Biden cover-up given the massive make-over of this fossil's age.
John Hjorth Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 13 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: No — it's a fundamental question of whether Iran does or does not retain any nuclear capability. That’s not a semantic distinction, it’s a categorical one. Hence why the administration/Hegseth continues to tie itself in knots over what Trump said Saturday night and the news cycle around it hasn't stopped. The President spouted complete and utter bullshit to the American people on Saturday night on a deeply deeply consequential question. Like a child that's been caught out in a fib - the President & his team can't quite seem to find a formulation of words or a position that doesn’t expose the utter absurdity of the original claim. Well said, @changegonnacome, No matter how impressive the American sting operation against Iranian nuclear facilities may appear from Hegseths and Caines elaborations, no tangible proof of resulting outcome was delivered under that meeting with the press. What is important to have in mind, is that this is what could be done from and via the air, without the use of American troops on Iranian soil. If USA eventually coulden't do it, nobody could, because no other country has the means to carry out such a thing. So all good, that it is now tried by USA. As I've posted before, the whole of Europe also can't live with a rogue state like Iran having nuclear weapons.
Hektor Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 https://www.ft.com/content/4fdac31f-e2ba-4635-ad9c-72299edce912 ‘If there’s one family that hasn’t profited off politics, it’s the Trump family,’ president’s son says in an interview
Hektor Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/first-taco-now-twit-trump-will-inevitably-tank-the-economy-20250624-p5m9w3 Move over TACO. Here comes TWIT
cubsfan Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 1 minute ago, Hektor said: https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/first-taco-now-twit-trump-will-inevitably-tank-the-economy-20250624-p5m9w3 Move over TACO. Here comes TWIT I love this, TACO is now dead, TWIT is in. They never give up. Undeniably, the greatest week for a US President in years. TDS lives on.
John Hjorth Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 (edited) 36 minutes ago, dealraker said: I just wanna know who in hell is responsible for Donnie John's face coloring as his oval office condemnation calling Powell low IQ and stupid was quite the brown-out! Beyond the shoulder pads etc they are doing the Biden cover-up given the massive make-over of this fossil's age. Knowing there most times are some kind of 'catch' to get to understand Charlies [ @dealrakers] posts here on CofB&F - and the rash they contain, I, as a Dane, meticulously looked up the meaning of 'brown-out' - aannd got it! - lol! . - - - o 0 o - - - Certainly understandable, if a 79 year old man feels a bit worn out by being POTUS, the way he fills and stewards his position, his style. Edited June 27, 2025 by John Hjorth
changegonnacome Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, John Hjorth said: Well said, @changegonnacome, Thanks John - Trump supporters have a tolerance for his BS’ing passing it off as some kind of acceptable personality quirk…fine no problem from me…..when it concerns crowds sizes and trivial things. The status of Iran’s nuclear capability post a US military attack is not a trivial matter. If his supporters can’t make that distinction they either have TDS or they are implicitly saying that on matters great or small they have no expectation that Trump the President of the United States is truthfully accurate in what he says. Saturday night confirms my central thesis of the Trump presidency (which has proved to be immensely profitable for me this year) - he remains fundamentally the guy who spent many hours of his formative years more concerned about creating the public impression of being a billionaire versus the hard & difficult work of becoming a billionaire….as this pertains to policy (liberation, Iran on down)….one should assume, always, that Trump is more concerned with giving the impression of changing things versus the hard work of fundamentally changing things. This heuristic works best the more complex the issue at hand (Trade, Gov spending, Deficit, foreign affairs etc). He believes his propaganda skills are limitless (why wouldn’t he they got him to White House!) the reality is his execution skills or one should say his stomach & skill for executing difficult complex tasks is not there. Put more succinctly he’s a President more interested in giving people the IMPRESSION America is being made great again versus doing the hard work of actually MAKING America great again. That is the Achilles heel and crux of this President. Trade accordingly. Edited June 27, 2025 by changegonnacome
Milu Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 1 hour ago, cubsfan said: I love this, TACO is now dead, TWIT is in. They never give up. Undeniably, the greatest week for a US President in years. TDS lives on. People are unfortunately struggling with the fact that inflation has stayed flat or even come down, and the S&P is up 5% so far for the year. The economy was supposed to have dived into a tailspin by now but so far things are progressing as normal. It's easier to come up with a new acronym TACO etc to explain this than it is to adjust their deeply held beliefs. Maybe after a couple more years of solid returns they will finally come around but by that point they will have missed a lot of the growth. I don't think anybody should make any investment decisions based on who the president is.
cubsfan Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 22 minutes ago, Milu said: People are unfortunately struggling with the fact that inflation has stayed flat or even come down, and the S&P is up 5% so far for the year. The economy was supposed to have dived into a tailspin by now but so far things are progressing as normal. It's easier to come up with a new acronym TACO etc to explain this than it is to adjust their deeply held beliefs. Maybe after a couple more years of solid returns they will finally come around but by that point they will have missed a lot of the growth. I don't think anybody should make any investment decisions based on who the president is. +1 - well put.
Spekulatius Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 On 6/25/2025 at 10:41 AM, Gregmal said: So this whole thing is over semantics? Nice It is not semantics is the message is just plain wrong. Hitting a target a destroying it are not the same thing. Watch some documentaries about the Vietnam war when both were mixed up by Namara etc. Trump doesn’t like facts because he want to create his own MAGA reality.
cubsfan Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 Israel and Trump just shredded 50 years of Iranian "invincibility" in 2 weeks. All the while the rest of the world stood by and watched, with all the lefties praying and hoping for failure and destruction of his Presidency. No doubt the greatest single week for a US President in decades. Tough medicine to take guys. Sorry.
73 Reds Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Milu said: People are unfortunately struggling with the fact that inflation has stayed flat or even come down, and the S&P is up 5% so far for the year. The economy was supposed to have dived into a tailspin by now but so far things are progressing as normal. It's easier to come up with a new acronym TACO etc to explain this than it is to adjust their deeply held beliefs. Maybe after a couple more years of solid returns they will finally come around but by that point they will have missed a lot of the growth. I don't think anybody should make any investment decisions based on who the president is. Indeed. For most individuals (particularly in the US) politics is entirely irrelevant. The fear mongering here and elsewhere is laughable and sad at the same time. One thing is for certain: If you base your investments on your personal political persuasions, you will be far worse off than if you had simply invested in a vacuum.
73 Reds Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 42 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Israel and Trump just shredded 50 years of Iranian "invincibility" in 2 weeks. All the while the rest of the world stood by and watched, with all the lefties praying and hoping for failure and destruction of his Presidency. No doubt the greatest single week for a US President in decades. Tough medicine to take guys. Sorry. Cubs, I feel like you and I are watching a different movie than some others. Can't remember any time in recent memory that I've been more proud to be an American. Nothing against the rest of the World but I can't help but wonder what it would take for anyone else to actually take a stand for humanity and hope like hell we never need to find out.
cubsfan Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 56 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Can't remember any time in recent memory that I've been more proud to be an American. I couldn't have said it any better. This has been a historic period that will likely change the Middle East forever. No doubt the other bully nations have taken note of what fate might become of them.
Spekulatius Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 (edited) I wonder who is going to select to do his thing. Probably won’t matter: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-wants-interest-rate-212756197.html Good time to own foreign currencies. Edited June 27, 2025 by Spekulatius
Parsad Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 4 hours ago, cubsfan said: I couldn't have said it any better. This has been a historic period that will likely change the Middle East forever. No doubt the other bully nations have taken note of what fate might become of them. 5 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Cubs, I feel like you and I are watching a different movie than some others. Can't remember any time in recent memory that I've been more proud to be an American. Nothing against the rest of the World but I can't help but wonder what it would take for anyone else to actually take a stand for humanity and hope like hell we never need to find out. Are you two going to make out? The love-in is unbearable! Cheers!
cubsfan Posted June 27, 2025 Posted June 27, 2025 10 minutes ago, Parsad said: Are you two going to make out? The love-in is unbearable! Cheers! That's funny! Enjoy it while you can. Certainly been a great week!
cubsfan Posted June 28, 2025 Posted June 28, 2025 To top off an amazing week for Trump, today the Supreme Court bitch slaps the left's abusing nationwide injunctions by "judge shopping". Not gonna work anymore. This ruling will save the judicial system and clear the way for much of the Trump agenda. Huge ruling.
Red Lion Posted June 28, 2025 Posted June 28, 2025 11 minutes ago, cubsfan said: To top off an amazing week for Trump, today the Supreme Court bitch slaps the left's abusing nationwide injunctions by "judge shopping". Not gonna work anymore. This ruling will save the judicial system and clear the way for much of the Trump agenda. Huge ruling. It’s strange to me that they picked this particular case to stop nationwide injunctions. I haven’t had a chance to read the decision yet, but it seems like if a nationwide injunction won’t pass muster in a case trying to revoke birthright citizenship, when would one?
Parsad Posted June 28, 2025 Posted June 28, 2025 31 minutes ago, Red Lion said: It’s strange to me that they picked this particular case to stop nationwide injunctions. I haven’t had a chance to read the decision yet, but it seems like if a nationwide injunction won’t pass muster in a case trying to revoke birthright citizenship, when would one? SC basically said that Federal and State judges cannot invoke nationwide injunctions...on any matter. So I could understand that for State judges...but Federal judges are handpicked by the President. They rule on Federal matters. This would mean that only the Supreme Court can invoke nationwide injunctions?! Bizarre! Cheers!
Parsad Posted June 28, 2025 Posted June 28, 2025 1 hour ago, cubsfan said: That's funny! Enjoy it while you can. Certainly been a great week! You and Reds should go have a beer. Seriously...I'm positive you guys are brothers from another mother. Cubs...how old are you...what's your favorite sport...your favorite car...your favorite tv show? 73Reds...how old are you...what's your favorite sport...your favorite car...your favorite tv show? I bet the answers are nearly the same! Cheers!
Spekulatius Posted June 28, 2025 Posted June 28, 2025 9 minutes ago, Parsad said: You and Reds should go have a beer. Seriously...I'm positive you guys are brothers from another mother. Cubs...how old are you...what's your favorite sport...your favorite car...your favorite tv show? 73Reds...how old are you...what's your favorite sport...your favorite car...your favorite tv show? I bet the answers are nearly the same! Cheers! Yeah, it’s time for a MAGA group chat. There probably is already one going, I bet.
cubsfan Posted June 28, 2025 Posted June 28, 2025 I know it's been a tough week for the Trump haters - but suck it up already. The left had their chance and screwed the country up royally for 4 years. Oh well. It's great to see the country on the right track again.
Spekulatius Posted June 28, 2025 Posted June 28, 2025 Here we go again: https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/politics/2025/06/27/trump-ending-all-trade-talks-with-canada-immediately/
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