But they were mostly right 2016-2018 when we did have a rising rate environment, and then 2019-2020 may have been the steepest cutting cycle in history, and I don't think it was very easy to see that was coming. Given how much lower the float was in 2016 vs. now, how much do you really think they could have made by taking on duration when the 10yr was trading at ~2%?