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23 hours ago, CGJB said:

I agree with you! I hope it's not the case, but my hopes and what I think will happen are two different things.

The history of sanction and red flag enemies of the US would suggest that things take a long time to go back to "normal". Just look at Cuba and Iran? those are in the doghouse for decades (Cuba since the 50's, Iran since the late 70's). It doesn't matter who is president in the US either, these things transcendent party lines.

 

In the case of Cuba, the reason for the sanctions (affiliation with Soviet Union, nuclear missile installation) is gone since the mid 90's. Yet here we are...

 

I think Russia is in the doghouse with the US and the west for decades even after Putin is gone. The US is almost a #neverforget country as far as foreign policy enemies are concerned.

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6 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

The history of sanction and red flag enemies of the US would suggest that things take a long time to go back to "normal". Just look at Cuba and Iran? those are in the doghouse for decades (Cuba since the 50's, Iran since the late 70's). It doesn't matter who is president in the US either, these things transcendent party lines.

 

In the case of Cuba, the reason for the sanctions (affiliation with Soviet Union, nuclear missile installation) is gone since the mid 90's. Yet here we are...

 

I think Russia is in the doghouse with the US and the west for decades even after Putin is gone. The US is almost a #neverforget country as far as foreign policy enemies are concerned.

well, we forgave Germany and Japan and China, so why not Russia?

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Because we chose to totally obliterate Germany and Japan. The only reason they were rebuilt was because an economically strong post war Germany and Japan were a good hedge against communism.  
 

It was not out of kindest of heart. If there were no Soviet Union, there would still be troops garrisoning a broken Germany and Japan. 
 

In case of Iran, US has done everything to strangle the country for 40 years economically. Only hurting average people. That sin is above and beyond of the constant interference, directly helping Irak in the war, that cause a million death and injured. 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, Dinar said:

well, we forgave Germany and Japan and China, so why not Russia?

The US forgave Germany and Japan after they were beaten into submission and totally destroyed. If we can beat Russia into submission, then we will forgive them.

 

I am not sure what you mean by forgiven in China's case. China was an ally in WW2.

 

@Xerxes said it first. LOL

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10 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

The US forgave Germany and Japan after they were beaten into submission and totally destroyed. If we can beat Russia into submission, then we will forgive them.

 

I am not sure what you mean by forgiven in China's case. China was an ally in WW2.

 

@Xerxes said it first. LOL

Korean War - Chinese killed tens of thousands of Americans in Korea.  Chinese invaded Korea when it was clear that communists were going to be destroyed.  Vietnam by the way another example.  

Posted
39 minutes ago, no_free_lunch said:

Can you give us the summary castanza?

 

On the Go, but here are a few topics highlighted. 

 

- Russia has largely failed and will never hold Ukraine

- Russia is short on munitions and using most of what they make within a month. 

- Russia looks weak but can still make calculated pushes and capture territory.

- Both armies are very different animals than when the war started. Both have greatly benefited from conscription/mobilization of additional forces. 

- Ukraine unlikely to re-capture major cities or hot spot locations (likely to lose Bakhmut) 

- War in general is at a relative stalemate

- Ukraine wants more funding but US has 11B left in the tank. F16 don't make sense as 12 would eat that budget up. US production is bottlenecked and everything we give Ukraine is being taken away from current US missions. The "extra supply" is a myth. US debating future funding of resources based on our own risks as we deplete OUR supply. The benefit of a dozen F-16 to Ukraine would be negligible. 

- Some of the munitions very useful to Ukraine are not necessarily something we will continue to produce because they are not strategic to the US (speaker listed some shells and other munitions). US is Air dependent not Artillery. 

- Russia's nuclear declaration of use for Nuclear weapons is a much lower threshold than NATO nations. Putin is still irrational and the same people who said Russia wouldn't invade are the same ones saying Putin will never push that button. 

- Should the US supply cluster like munitions (cant remember specific name)? Maybe because they are already being used. 

- Ukraine will have to spend billions post war to de-mine the nation. It's going to be a massive problem that will hinder rebuilding. 

- Germany re-thinking the shipment of Leopard tanks as Ukraine may not be able to maintain them. 

 

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Dinar said:

Korean War - Chinese killed tens of thousands of Americans in Korea.  Chinese invaded Korea when it was clear that communists were going to be destroyed.  Vietnam by the way another example.  


Agreed. Korean War should be called U.S-China war since that is what it was. Much like Ukraine War, is more of NATO-Russia war. 
 

Korean and Ukrainian are/were innocent bystander. Like always. 
 

Vietnam war, however, was Vietnam with the U.S.

 

China played a much smaller role, and Vietnam fell in the Soviet block and not the Red China block.  
 

All sins were forgiven however with Nixon and Kissinger. So fair point there. 

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57 minutes ago, Dinar said:

Korean War - Chinese killed tens of thousands of Americans in Korea.  Chinese invaded Korea when it was clear that communists were going to be destroyed.  Vietnam by the way another example.  

China is a good example of why we shouldn't forgive forget without regime change. Look at the contrast between Germany and Japan vs China.  All we have done is strengthened our enemy and yes we benefitted along the way but at what cost.  If it leads to a cold war both parties in the US will be doing some soul searching to make sure that NEVER happens again.

 

Castanza,  I can't really find much to disagree with.  The only point is around nuclear use. I feel they would have been used by now if it was truly on the table.  It just doesn't make sense, this is not a mortal threat to Russia.  Their nuclear use doctrine does require some legitimate threat to the country and a fight in Ukraine just doesn't hit that bar.  Also note that mainstream western agencies were correct in calling for the invasion. We like to downplay them because of Iraq but they were bang on here.  When they start sounding the nuclear alarm I will take it seriously. Until then imo, we can't be cowered, or we become slaves.  

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1 hour ago, Xerxes said:


Agreed. Korean War should be called U.S-China war since that is what it was. Much like Ukraine War, is more of NATO-Russia war. 
 

Korean and Ukrainian are/were innocent bystander. Like always. 
 

Vietnam war, however, was Vietnam with the U.S.

 

China played a much smaller role, and Vietnam fell in the Soviet block and not the Red China block.  
 

All sins were forgiven however with Nixon and Kissinger. So fair point there. 

I think the idea of the USA making good with China was that the bigger headache was Russia at this point and the enemy of my enemy may be my friend. Russia had a rift with China at that time and Nixon/Kissinger was trying to exploit.

 

Also, economically speaking, China has beaten itself into submission with Maoist policies, so wasn't really a threat beyond the nuclear weapons.

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^^ You said it better than me. 
 

it was a point of view that was very hard to explore during the Korean War, when the prevailing point of view in DC was that of giant Red block with Moscow at the centre. 
 

Kissinger’s genius was recognize the different shades of red and explore them. 
 

on a different note, reading a book on a topic few years ago, it came to my attention that the Presidential B.707 plane that carried Nixon to Beijing, first landed in Shanghai, there Chinese navigators join in, and help flew the Air Force One to Beijing. Or Peking. 

Posted
39 minutes ago, Dinar said:

well, we forgave Germany and Japan and China, so why not Russia?

 

33 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

The US forgave Germany and Japan after they were beaten into submission and totally destroyed. If we can beat Russia into submission, then we will forgive them.

 

I am not sure what you mean by forgiven in China's case. China was an ally in WW2.

 

@Xerxes said it first. LOL

 

Marshall Plan .

 

You have to help your worst enemy to get on the feet again, when the clash is over. You may not love to do so, but for macro economists it's plain and pure, almost simple, ... logics and macroeconomics on the rim, - no feelings involved whatsoever. To me, no doubt USA here did the right thing after WWII.

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

I have interviewed my - now late - father, who passed away august last year at the age of 96 - about how he was perceiving his own whole life, talking with him many, many hours during the last decade or so, I would say tirelessly, trying to grasp and understand how he has perceived his living conditions back then - later in life with my mother - and how living conditions have evolved during the years.

 

He was post WWII an officer in the the Danish army, in a brigade controlling how things evolved post WWII in the German population, in a part of Germany, Hamburg and north bound, out of of Itzehoe, located NE of Hamburg.

 

Not one word about that was I during all those years with him with talks about his past able to get out of him about that part of his life. When asked about it, he simpy turned his face in another direction than me at every occurrence.fter WWII.

 

Today, I think of it as PTSD of his, to which I never got any help.

 

- - - - o 0 o - - -

 

We have to love our former worst enemy, when the dust settles, to get along.

Posted
On 2/18/2023 at 9:32 PM, Dinar said:

Russia has been a paper tiger for decades.

 

 

Even after being exposed, Poland still considers Russia a threat.

 

To start with, it has placed orders for 1,000 K2 main battle tanks from South Korea, and 250 brand new M1A2 SEPv3 Abram tanks from the US. This will turn Poland into the owner of Europe’s biggest tank force, dwarfing the UK’s fleet of 227.

Its artillery will be bolstered by the arrival of 600 K9s, 18 HIMARS launchers with 9,000 rockets, and 288 K239 Chunmoo MRL systems from South Korea.

Over 1,000 Polish-made Borsuk infantry fighting vehicles will carry Polish troops into battle, while air cover will come from 96 AH-64E Apache helicopters bought from the US, and 48 FA-50 combat aircraft now on order from South Korea.

“We are changing our equipment very, very quickly,” said Captain Adamiak. “It really is revolution, not evolution.”

All of this will be underscored by plans to double the size of the Polish Army to 300,000, which would turn Poland into Europe’s biggest military power, in terms of manpower, west of Ukraine.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/11/revolution-polish-army-builds-europes-largest-land-force/

Posted
On 3/4/2023 at 6:23 PM, Gregmal said:

I can’t wait to see the eventual blowing up of the US collegiate/academic bubble world. It’s a racist, indoctrination driven world of excess and unaccountable creeps. It’s funded by government spending and bs student loans that make the GFC subprime stuff look tame. These folks parade around doing little actual work, many teaching a few hours a day at best and then lounging, mingling with young kids, and pursuing hobbies, while making salaries deep into the 6 figures with golden benefit packages. It’s despicable and the only thing worse is how often the good teachers simply end up average Joes because they choose not the have fun in the deviant carnival system that exists.

 

A+

Posted
On 3/9/2023 at 2:14 PM, no_free_lunch said:

Well you literally just said you hoped Russian stocks trade again. I mean that is part of free speech so I defend your right to say that. Just know that if you talk against Russia in Russia you are fucked. Probably literally. 

 

Yes, I hope Russian stocks trade again. Just like I hope Russia is successful with its Special Military Operation.

 

Z

Posted

US drone: Russian jet forces down MQ-9 Reaper over Black Sea | CNN Politics

 

The Reaper drone and two Russian Su-27 aircraft were flying over international waters over the Black Sea on Tuesday when one of the Russian jets intentionally flew in front of and dumped fuel on the unmanned drone several times, a statement from US European Command said.

 

The aircraft then hit the propeller of the drone, prompting US forces to bring the MQ-9 drone down in international waters. Pentagon spokesman Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder added Tuesday that the Russian aircraft flew “in the vicinity” of the drone for 30 to 40 minutes before colliding just after 7 a.m. Central European Time.

 

“Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in international airspace when it was intercepted and hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash and complete loss of the MQ-9,” Air Force Gen. James B. Hecker, commander of US Air Forces Europe and Air Forces Africa, said in the statement. “In fact, this unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians nearly caused both aircraft to crash.”

Posted
On 3/5/2023 at 1:23 AM, Gregmal said:

I can’t wait to see the eventual blowing up of the US collegiate/academic bubble world. It’s a racist, indoctrination driven world of excess and unaccountable creeps. It’s funded by government spending and bs student loans that make the GFC subprime stuff look tame. These folks parade around doing little actual work, many teaching a few hours a day at best and then lounging, mingling with young kids, and pursuing hobbies, while making salaries deep into the 6 figures with golden benefit packages. It’s despicable and the only thing worse is how often the good teachers simply end up average Joes because they choose not the have fun in the deviant carnival system that exists.

Have a look at all the fraudulent research, replication crisis, shit research in neuroimaging...

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@james22 - thanks for posting these great slides. Good for Tilson doing some real good.

 

It's great to hear about the spirit of the Ukrainians. It will be interesting to see how "victory"

is defined:

 

- Russians expelled from Eastern Ukraine?

- Expelled from Crimea?

- Current advanced just stopped cold. But nothing left but rubble anyway. So a DMZ?

 

 

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Michael Kofman has been one of my go-to’s when wanting to get an update. He just returned from a trip to Ukraine to get first hand information. He expects a Ukraine offensive in the coming months (after Ukraine is re-armed by the West). He expects something decisive to happen. He is normally pretty guarded so that surprised me. 
 

 

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Interesting stuff on Tilson. I was not aware that his parents were both teachers. The investing legend had two teacher parents, went to Harvard, and then immediately launched a hedge fund right out of school. Now sells newsletters. Rags to riches story if I’ve ever heard one.

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Posted
On 3/4/2023 at 8:27 PM, Sweet said:

Wonder if Gillette sponsored a men in science scheme, and only men could apply, how long it would take to make the BBC news front page.

 

Gillette is more likely to sponsor women in science, to fight toxic masculinity: 

 

 

Posted
On 3/4/2023 at 9:20 PM, rohitc99 said:

+1

reminds me that old quote from churchil i think - Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others

 

 

Exactly.  The US is the absolute worst country, except for all the others.  I can go on for hours about what is wrong with the US, but I'm still here and not going anywhere else.  You can pick and choose within the US as well which is one of its great advantages.  Living in NH, FL, or TX is much different from living in MA, CA, NY, or NJ.     Unless you are taking a STEM program, college is mostly BS anyway. What we need is a school that removes all the humanities/liberal arts crap from the curriculum and prepares someone to become an engineer in 3 years rather than 4.

 

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