Gregmal Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Some of the Taiwan talk in the Coupang thread reminded me of another oldie but goodie….remember when a certain administration and group of crooked politicians outright stole assets from others following the Ukraine war? “Others” defined in terms resembling nothing more than bigoted hoopla about a specific nationality and the catchy buzzword “oligarch”….no regard for due process or anything like that. Just an outright theft. Further after was the widespread harm inflicted on completely innocent parties, many even being US citizens, through banning the ownership of publicly available investments that had the wrong mailing address…. Fast forward a few years, and Trump buys, in exchange for cash(ie a valid exchange per most reasonable definitions), stakes in publicly listed companies, I suppose for the purpose of promoting American businesses but really who knows….after which said investments rallied bigly benefitting their owners…and these same tards that supported the great heist of 2022 are screaming about the government confiscating private assets lmfao
Sweet Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Spooky said: Also, the far right / alt right, however you want to label it, is always going on about immigration destroying Western civilization. Meanwhile they are degrading the true foundations of Western civilization which are democratic capitalism, the rule of law and individual rights. It wasn’t so long ago that there was broad political consensus that migration should be managed. If we could go back in time, I wonder what the people who fought against the actual far-right in World War 2 would think of your labelling of their views. Western civilisation didn’t just spawn on a page, it’s the product of its culture which is a product of its people. These ideas are transferable, so it’s not like these ideas are ‘white ideas’, or ideas only Europeans can hold, but can we stop pretending that culture is not related to the people to please?
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) I finally understand why Europeans are so upset about the capture of Maduro: Sounds like there's going to be another fine levied at some U.S. bottled water company, probably 5% of global revenue Edited January 5 by Dalal.Holdings
Parsad Posted January 5 Posted January 5 9 hours ago, 73 Reds said: So it was perfectly fine to put a bounty on his head but not to arrest him and try him for his crimes? Some people are so deluded by political ideology they completely lose all perspective of right vs. wrong. It's war crimes now, eh! That's a very thin line, since many people believe there were war crimes in Gaza and Ukraine. 9 hours ago, Paarslaars said: I think his crimes just make it an easy excuse. Venezuela is just a pawn in the war between US and China for rare earth metals. Yup...the U.S. is behind in rare earth minerals...which will obviously shape the future. If you have them, you are in control of your destiny. Deals in Ukraine...deals in Venezuela....next up, deals in Greenland! Jen-Frederik Nielsen is on notice! Cheers!
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, cubsfan said: ^^^ Damn that's good. What a loser. Another Democrat who says "I totally supported that thing...until Trump accomplished it". Make no mistake, if a Dem president conducted the operation over the weekend to capture Maduro, these guys and European leaders would be praising it. So much noise out there in politics land. These people just lie with a straight face day in and day out.
John Hjorth Posted January 6 Posted January 6 YouTube : Anders Puck Nielsen [January 5th 2026] : Trump’s attack on Venezuela signals a new era of U.S. imperialism - - - o 0 o - - - Food for thought.
Parsad Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Back to Epstein files...have they released them all yet? Cheers!
Paarslaars Posted January 6 Posted January 6 They probably will but the question is has anything not been redacted other than Clinton.
Milu Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I find the best approach whenever trump does something is to go through these few questions 1. Has a former US president or other western world leader done something similar to this? 2. Was I worried/outraged when they did? 3. If not, then why am I getting worried/outraged this time? The answers to these usually prevents the common knee-jerk reaction that the media has instilled that everything trump does is unprecedented.
UK Posted January 6 Posted January 6 America’s raid on Venezuela reveals the limits of China’s reach / It is not a template for Taiwan but a reality check on China’s global power https://archive.is/aSu7F
Luke Posted January 6 Posted January 6 49 minutes ago, UK said: America’s raid on Venezuela reveals the limits of China’s reach / It is not a template for Taiwan but a reality check on China’s global power https://archive.is/aSu7F Maybe China and Europe should start doing the same before the US takes over more ressources and countries. We also need it for our security and companies.
UK Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Luke said: Maybe China and Europe should start doing the same before the US takes over more ressources and countries. We also need it for our security and companies. I do not disagree, except it is hard to pull of in Europe, but maybe Germany awakes and will lead the charge. China is doing it already quite succesfully for quite a while only more softly. My worry is where Putins sphere of influence is in all this:(. Oh and US taking over is probably not the worst thing:) Edited January 6 by UK
Spekulatius Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, UK said: America’s raid on Venezuela reveals the limits of China’s reach / It is not a template for Taiwan but a reality check on China’s global power https://archive.is/aSu7F Yes, China has been using a soft power approach via infrastructure build (belt and road) and economic influence. Except for in Africa, which is TBD, this approach has been failing, imo. I do wonder if they also switch to a more assertive approach like what they do in the South Pacific. They regard this as their sphere of influence and it’s within range of their “gunboats” too. Investment implication: be careful with investments out of the sphere you live in It’s also good for defense stocks. I think we will see an arms race if this is truly the age of Neo imperialism. This likely ends with wars, if history is any gage.
dealraker Posted January 6 Posted January 6 58 minutes ago, Luke said: Maybe China and Europe should start doing the same before the US takes over more ressources and countries. We also need it for our security and companies. We are gunna claim what is rightfully ours. I'd suggest getting to the gun store for all you wimps who don't carry. I do. Just letting you know that Trump's jet fueling the crazy (as evidenced below)...and Cubs ain't the only one.. I'm right behind him! Stephen Miller on a Greenland takeover: “We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power,” he said. “These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.” Advertisement
UK Posted January 6 Posted January 6 8 minutes ago, Spekulatius said: Investment implication: be careful with investments out of the sphere you live in I agree.
dealraker Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Trump's wise enough to know that the high point is the one day wonder military invasion and victory, it goes downhill steadily afterwards - the complications are endless and impossible to work through. So we gotta keep doing such to have better-and-better high points. Greenland is just the beginning!
UK Posted January 6 Posted January 6 8 minutes ago, dealraker said: We are gunna claim what is rightfully ours. I'd suggest getting to the gun store for all you wimps who don't carry. I do. Just letting you know that Trump's jet fueling the crazy (as evidenced below)...and Cubs ain't the only one.. I'm right behind him! Stephen Miller on a Greenland takeover: “We live in a world, in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power,” he said. “These are the iron laws of the world since the beginning of time.” Advertisement Yes and it seems John Mearsheimer was/is quite right on how things really work.
Spekulatius Posted January 6 Posted January 6 6 minutes ago, UK said: I do not disagree, except it is hard to pull of in Europe, but maybe Germany awakes and will lead the charge. China is doing it already quite succesfully for quite a while only more softly. My worry is where Putins sphere of influence is in all this:(. Oh and US taking over is probably not the worst thing:) This Maduro thing is very scary for Putin. This was exactly the military special operation he wanted to pull of (beheading the Ukrainian government, capturing Zelensky ) but could not and it ended in stalemate war now that destroys his economy. The pic with Maduro being captured in an airplane and the water bottle is got to be the stuff of his nightmares. Putin is paranoid as hell about his own safety so he surely thinks about that he could in a twist of events end up in the same situation. I also think that Europe should put a bounty on his head, maybe 50M Euros for his capture. Not that they can execute his capture but it sends a message. Then he needs to worry every time he travels out of Russia that some entrepreneur may want to collect it. I don’t think they would do this but it would be a smart move, imo.
dealraker Posted January 6 Posted January 6 6 minutes ago, UK said: Yes and it seems John Mearsheimer was/is quite right on how things really work. He's the best source of overall thinking by far.
UK Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Spekulatius said: This Maduro thing is very scary for Putin. This was exactly the military special operation he wanted to pull of (beheading the Ukrainian government, capturing Zelensky ) but could not and it ended in stalemate war now that destroys his economy. The pic with Maduro being captured in an airplane and the water bottle is got to be the stuff of his nightmares. Putin is paranoid as hell about his own safety so he surely thinks about that he could in a twist of events end up in the same situation. I also think that Europe should put a bounty on his head, maybe 50M Euros for his capture. Not that they can execute his capture but it sends a message. Then he needs to worry every time he travels out of Russia that some entrepreneur may want to collect it. I don’t think they would do this but it would be a smart move, imo. There are some speculations on possibly Putin being sold by his circle, but as much as one could wish for a such thing, I am afraid this is a wishful thinking:(. But who knows, strange things are happening:) Edited January 6 by UK
John Hjorth Posted January 6 Posted January 6 5 hours ago, John Hjorth said: YouTube : Anders Puck Nielsen [January 5th 2026] : Trump’s attack on Venezuela signals a new era of U.S. imperialism - - - o 0 o - - - Food for thought. Greenland cont'd : This has just boken minutyes ago, from the coalition of willing meeting today, uploaded to the Federal German government website : Bundesregierung.de [January 6th 2026] : Joint Statement on Greenland : Quote Statement by President Macron of France, Chancellor Merz of Germany, Prime Minister Meloni of Italy, Prime Minister Tusk of Poland, Prime Minister Sánchez of Spain, Prime Minister Starmer of the United Kingdom and Prime Minister Frederiksen of Denmark on Greenland. Arctic security remains a key priority for Europe and it is critical for international and transatlantic security. NATO has made clear that the Arctic region is a priority and European Allies are stepping up. We and many other Allies have increased our presence, activities and investments, to keep the Arctic safe and to deter adversaries. The Kingdom of Denmark – including Greenland – is part of NATO. Security in the Arctic must therefore be achieved collectively, in conjunction with NATO allies including the United States, by upholding the principles of the UN Charter, including sovereignty, territorial integrity and the inviolability of borders. These are universal principles, and we will not stop defending them. The United States is an essential partner in this endeavour, as a NATO ally and through the defence agreement between the Kingdom of Denmark and the United States of 1951. Greenland belongs to its people. It is for Denmark and Greenland, and them only, to decide on matters concerning Denmark and Greenland. - - - o 0 o - - - In short, the more agressive POTUS becomes in his imperialistic propensities and initiatives towards Greenland, the more sidelined and pushed outside the door in NATO he becomes, the Coalition of the Willing is stopping including him in decisions and communication in NATO, thereby in reality gradually dismantling NATO over time. [This is exactly what @Spekulatius has expressed upstream in this topic now for quite some time, btw. ] This a' great' Catch-22 for POTUS. To me, likely, he does not understand it, and don't care about it, and he'll just blame Biden, or somebody else. - - - o 0 o - - - This is totally unprecendent from the respective of NATO.
John Hjorth Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Spekulatius said: This Maduro thing is very scary for Putin. This was exactly the military special operation he wanted to pull of (beheading the Ukrainian government, capturing Zelensky ) but could not and it ended in stalemate war now that destroys his economy. The pic with Maduro being captured in an airplane and the water bottle is got to be the stuff of his nightmares. Putin is paranoid as hell about his own safety so he surely thinks about that he could in a twist of events end up in the same situation. I also think that Europe should put a bounty on his head, maybe 50M Euros for his capture. Not that they can execute his capture but it sends a message. Then he needs to worry every time he travels out of Russia that some entrepreneur may want to collect it. I don’t think they would do this but it would be a smart move, imo. Christ, I like this psychological take on how this may be affecting Putin! Personally, I've been advokating for a bounty 100 million USD, now let make that EUR, perhaps also throwing in a wish the mans arms may shrink and his butt scratch. ] Edited January 6 by John Hjorth
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