SharperDingaan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 26 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: Wikipedia : [EU] Anti-Coercion Instrument To be frank, the EU should have deployed this a long time ago; get it done, and have the tool ready to go. If it triggers a fight, so be it; think of it as 'healthy discussion'. In hockey, there is nothing like a good old fashioned bench clearing to get the team riled up, fighting as one unit, and working out frustrations on the opposition . And when near everyone gets a 5 minute penalty for fighting, at the same time, there isn't much to lose .... aside from a few teeth, that a dentist can fix SD
John Hjorth Posted January 18 Posted January 18 19 minutes ago, SharperDingaan said: Great for Greenlander's so long as Denmark doesn't overtly interfere. In Orange Boys Orange Drama Queens eyes it's just a real estate deal with negative carry, that Denmark should be happy to get rid of. That ongoing USD 600 million simply becomes the US contribution to arctic defence (in weapons), that the 8 NATO members need to collectively put up every year ... or better. USD 1.2 billion+ spent on Greenland every year ... Hardly surprising that NATO doesn't appreciate the squeeze. SD SD [ @SharperDingaan ], Fixed your post, just a wee bit, normally I don't engage in such activities ... But hey, it's still Sunday, weekend, right?
John Hjorth Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 minute ago, SharperDingaan said: To be frank, the EU should have deployed this a long time ago; get it done, and have the tool ready to go. If it triggers a fight, so be it; think of it as 'healthy discussion'. In hockey, there is nothing like a good old fashioned bench clearing to get the team riled up, fighting as one unit, and working out frustrations on the opposition . And when near everyone gets a 5 minute penalty for fighting, at the same time, there isn't much to lose .... aside from a few teeth, that a dentist can fix SD Thank you, SD [ @SharperDingaan ], Seriously, this is not a plesant situation for any of us. Let's see how all this stuff plays out. It has the potential to get really ugly. Let's just hope for the best.
John Hjorth Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) What I have seen and heard expressed up here in the Nordics among several news and political reporters is, that what happened yesterday, is based on a misunderstanding by POTUS, that his reaction on TS yesterday was based on information about Operation Arctic Endurance, which he obviously would have misinterpreted as a provocation directed towards USA. What happened was that the countries participating in the military excersise actually was doing what POTUS actually had been blaming them for not to do. That rhymes with meeting participants with Danish delegation trusted by Vance and Rubio being uninformed this morning my local time why he posted what he did on TS. Pretty mind blowing to think about, actually. An impulsive 'shoot first - ask questions next' Maverick cowboy as leader of the worlds greatest power on the planet? Edited January 19 by John Hjorth
SharperDingaan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 56 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: SD [ @SharperDingaan ], Fixed your post, just a wee bit, normally I don't engage in such activities ... But hey, it's still Sunday, weekend, right? I like! but she is one butt ugly drama queen ... https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butt-ugly The reality is that change is coming to Europe, and it probably isn't going to go well for many. This is the time to get in those exotic trips across Europe whilst you still can, and quietly emigrate wealth/family before a sudden depreciation and capital controls make it more difficult. Bridgeheads, that hopefully you will never have need of; but also a time for the young to reach for the brass ring, as decades of change will happen very quickly. SD Edited January 18 by SharperDingaan
cubsfan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, SharperDingaan said: Great for Greenlander's so long as Denmark doesn't overtly interfere. In Orange Boys eyes it's just a real estate deal with negative carry, that Denmark should be happy to get rid of. That ongoing USD 600 million simply becomes the US contribution to arctic defence (in weapons), that the 8 NATO members need to collectively put up every year ... or better. USD 1.2 billion+ spent on Greenland every year ... Hardly surprising that NATO doesn't appreciate the squeeze. SD Damn, I like that deal - "negative carry" LOL Orange Boy would approve!
John Hjorth Posted January 19 Posted January 19 As far as I've understood, POTUS will participate in Davos on Wednesday. Maybe something positive related to this happen then, based on separate talks in private among somebody involved.
Parsad Posted January 19 Posted January 19 9 hours ago, dealraker said: Yo Cubs, self anointed holder of all wisdom and 15 year straight champ of devisive COBF posts: Which is greater in dollars, Trump's ongoing military op "saving" of Iran's protestors or DOGE? Saving Iran and Venezuela...really? And both are fixed...right? That's precisely what you voted for right? Or is it just a huge need for belonging, rules-a-changing cult style? Dealmaker, maybe remind Cubs again of how much was saved by DOGE! Another well oiled Trump machine that saved Americans billions...well maybe millions. Cheers!
Parsad Posted January 19 Posted January 19 8 hours ago, cubsfan said: Keep your eye on the greatest American President since Lincoln. ROFLAO! Cubs you bastard...stop making me laugh so damn hard...I might piss my pants! Cheers!
Parsad Posted January 19 Posted January 19 7 hours ago, Spooky said: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength And I thought cameras all over the place were the most Orwellian thing that could happen to us! Maybe an AI controlled world is the best thing for humanity with a fucker like Trump destroying any remaining relationship the U.S. has and overturning anything that remotely looked like democracy and due process! Cheers!
dealraker Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Parsad said: ROFLAO! Cubs you bastard...stop making me laugh so damn hard...I might piss my pants! Cheers! Cubs be watchin' ... and cheerin' ... fer the Jamie Dimon takedown. A lesson gotta be taught here. Edited January 19 by dealraker
UK Posted January 19 Posted January 19 7 hours ago, SharperDingaan said: The reality is that change is coming to Europe, and it probably isn't going to go well for many. This is the time to get in those exotic trips across Europe whilst you still can, and quietly emigrate wealth/family before a sudden depreciation and capital controls make it more difficult. Bridgeheads, that hopefully you will never have need of; but also a time for the young to reach for the brass ring, as decades of change will happen very quickly.
dwy000 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 All this because he's butt hurt for not being considered for the Nobel Prize? So he wants to go to war with Nato over it? Hes seriously lost his mind.
Parsad Posted January 19 Posted January 19 31 minutes ago, dwy000 said: All this because he's butt hurt for not being considered for the Nobel Prize? So he wants to go to war with Nato over it? Hes seriously lost his mind. Biggest fucking moron ever spawned out of the United States. Also, he's doing all this shit why? No one's talking about Epstein anymore! They are now worried about the dissolution of NATO, war, cancellation of mid-terms, the economy, tariffs, etc. Anything and everything other than Epstein! Cheers!
UK Posted January 19 Posted January 19 33 minutes ago, dwy000 said: All this because he's butt hurt for not being considered for the Nobel Prize? So he wants to go to war with Nato over it? Hes seriously lost his mind. I do not know about that loss, but it seems that from now he is going to be taken more seriously:))
Parsad Posted January 19 Posted January 19 35 minutes ago, UK said: I do not know about that loss, but it seems that from now he is going to be taken more seriously:)) What will be the repercussions of being taken seriously? Maybe outcomes that he's going to regret long-term...or the U.S. will. Hopefully the electorate comes to their senses at some point! Cheers!
Charlie Posted January 19 Posted January 19 1 hour ago, UK said: 9 hours ago, SharperDingaan said: The reality is that change is coming to Europe, and it probably isn't going to go well for many. This is the time to get in those exotic trips across Europe whilst you still can, and quietly emigrate wealth/family before a sudden depreciation and capital controls make it more difficult. Bridgeheads, that hopefully you will never have need of; but also a time for the young to reach for the brass ring, as decades of change will happen very quickly. I think the same about the U.S. So everybody can have his illusions about what is far, far away.
Sweet Posted January 19 Posted January 19 9 hours ago, John Hjorth said: What I have seen and heard expressed up here in the Nordics among several news and political reporters is, that what happened yesterday, is based on a misunderstanding by POTUS, that his reaction on TS yesterday was based on information about Operation Arctic Endurance, which he obviously would have misinterpreted as a provocation directed towards USA. What happened was that the countries participating in the military excersise actually was doing what POTUS actually had been blaming them for not to do. That rhymes with meeting participants with Danish delegation trusted by Vance and Rubio being uninformed this morning my local time why he posted what he did on TS. Pretty mind blowing to think about, actually. An impulsive 'shoot first - ask questions next' Maverick cowboy as leader of the world’s greatest power on the planet? I don’t think it was a misunderstanding. He must know that Denmark and Europe, who control and own Greenland, can send whatever troops it likes to its own territory. Him getting annoyed by this seems to be all part of the game to ramp up the tension and pressure. Hope I’m wrong though.
UK Posted January 19 Posted January 19 2 hours ago, Parsad said: What will be the repercussions of being taken seriously? Maybe outcomes that he's going to regret long-term...or the U.S. will. Hopefully the electorate comes to their senses at some point! Cheers! Perhaps without some serious concequences...all this is way above my paygrade:(
UK Posted January 19 Posted January 19 2 hours ago, Charlie said: I think the same about the U.S. So everybody can have his illusions about what is far, far away. Well who knows, but I want to trust WB, that US is still safest place, at least for capital...you have to believe in something:)
John Hjorth Posted January 19 Posted January 19 This morning I read up what had been posted here during the night my local time. What an amusement & entertainment! This last weekend has been totally overshadowed, dominated, comtrolled by Captain ChaosTM, Orange Drama QueenTM Thank God it's now Monday, so he is likely occupied in his office hopefully with boring, repetitive work and stuff demanding his attention!
Luke Posted January 19 Posted January 19 15 hours ago, Sweet said: You’re trolling. Exactly. Not only have the European been doing this, but both the US and Europe took China from an economic backwater to an economic and military superpower to rival the US and Europe. We knew China were a rival, we realised our mistake in opening them up for trade, and yet we still continued to do it until Trump - and even now we are still doing it. Just total stupidity. There was a huge net value creation for the planet - to call it a mistake to help China develop is IMO not a correct assesment when you think of overall human development. Sure - for some billionaires that owned monopolies in the west this development was not ideal because there is competition. 12 hours ago, SharperDingaan said: To be frank, the EU should have deployed this a long time ago; get it done, and have the tool ready to go. If it triggers a fight, so be it; think of it as 'healthy discussion'. In hockey, there is nothing like a good old fashioned bench clearing to get the team riled up, fighting as one unit, and working out frustrations on the opposition . And when near everyone gets a 5 minute penalty for fighting, at the same time, there isn't much to lose .... aside from a few teeth, that a dentist can fix SD Yes - I agree. Trump only understands strength and hard reactions. No more soft talk - just match his energy. 4 hours ago, dwy000 said: All this because he's butt hurt for not being considered for the Nobel Prize? So he wants to go to war with Nato over it? Hes seriously lost his mind. That has got to be the most lunatic thing any US president has every written if true...we in europe need to get independent from the US ASAP. Not only from Russia and China - also from the US. I read today that Germany uses that Palantir crap too now for security - STOP IT. 3 hours ago, Parsad said: Biggest fucking moron ever spawned out of the United States. Also, he's doing all this shit why? No one's talking about Epstein anymore! They are now worried about the dissolution of NATO, war, cancellation of mid-terms, the economy, tariffs, etc. Anything and everything other than Epstein! Cheers! +1
Luke Posted January 19 Posted January 19 15 hours ago, Sweet said: You’re trolling. Exactly. Not only have the European been doing this, but both the US and Europe took China from an economic backwater to an economic and military superpower to rival the US and Europe. We knew China were a rival, we realised our mistake in opening them up for trade, and yet we still continued to do it until Trump - and even now we are still doing it. Just total stupidity. There was a huge net value creation for the planet - to call it a mistake to help China develop is IMO not a correct assesment when you think of overall human development. Sure - for some billionaires that owned monopolies in the west this development was not ideal because there is competition. 12 hours ago, SharperDingaan said: To be frank, the EU should have deployed this a long time ago; get it done, and have the tool ready to go. If it triggers a fight, so be it; think of it as 'healthy discussion'. In hockey, there is nothing like a good old fashioned bench clearing to get the team riled up, fighting as one unit, and working out frustrations on the opposition . And when near everyone gets a 5 minute penalty for fighting, at the same time, there isn't much to lose .... aside from a few teeth, that a dentist can fix SD Yes - I agree. Trump only understands strength and hard reactions. No more soft talk - just match his energy. 4 hours ago, dwy000 said: All this because he's butt hurt for not being considered for the Nobel Prize? So he wants to go to war with Nato over it? Hes seriously lost his mind. That has got to be the most lunatic thing any US president has every written if true...we in europe need to get independent from the US ASAP. Not only from Russia and China - also from the US. I read today that Germany uses that Palantir crap too now for security - STOP IT. 3 hours ago, Parsad said: Biggest fucking moron ever spawned out of the United States. Also, he's doing all this shit why? No one's talking about Epstein anymore! They are now worried about the dissolution of NATO, war, cancellation of mid-terms, the economy, tariffs, etc. Anything and everything other than Epstein! Cheers! +1
dealraker Posted January 19 Posted January 19 4 hours ago, Parsad said: Biggest fucking moron ever spawned out of the United States. Also, he's doing all this shit why? No one's talking about Epstein anymore! They are now worried about the dissolution of NATO, war, cancellation of mid-terms, the economy, tariffs, etc. Anything and everything other than Epstein! Cheers! Yep he must continuosly leapfrog to hold popularity, yet that popularity will gradually wane as outcomes disappoint. How long can it go? That is the story, always works this way, always will for strongmen.
WFF Posted January 19 Posted January 19 I know it is not politically correct, but pragmatically speaking, EU f’ed themselves for being so reliant on US services. They have “no cards” as Orange Drama Queen will say, are they really going to ban US services? So no AWS, no Google, no AI? If they do invoke the bazooka it will hit their credibility, as they will show they can’t hit back without hurting themselves. What may happen is tarrifs or trying to hurt swings states, and hope that the swing states will vote for someone that will bring senses. The other is reject foreign services in getting govt contracts (small amount relatively speaking and might get worst product) or impose laws or review that will delay American companies in expanding. They can always do the lesser of two evils and try and replace services with Chinese tech, but that would hurt their credibility again as they have been bashing China for the longest time. The US as a reliable partner has already gone down the drain with Orange Drama Queen at helm, so here is to another 3 years of chaos (unless midterms limit his power).
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