Parsad Posted January 14 Posted January 14 47 minutes ago, flesh said: I was commenting on an unnecessary increase in federal jobs. It's not hard to have fantastic jobs numbers when you prolong a shut down of the economy and then open it up, it's expected. Moreover, if you oversee the largest stimulus in history it's going to seriously help. It's like running a company and going into massive debt to hire employees and reporting to stockholders your doing great, employees up and debts ramping massively, all's well. Is that bull shit? The counterfactual would be if he didn't open the economy back up, would the numbers have been nearly as high etc. ? Now, if you have a methodology that attempts to strip out reversion to the mean jobs numbers plus trendline growth, strips out massive stimulus, strips out above trend fed employee growth, I'd be happy to see it. Percentage increase of the debt under Biden was less than Trump's first term. It was also less than half of the debt increase under Obama and Dubya's two terms. Cheers!
Spooky Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: Pragmatists on both sides would agree with that. +1
Spooky Posted January 14 Posted January 14 32 minutes ago, LC said: US allowing Ukraine to fall to Putin because Trump is mad at Europe (if that’s even the real reason) is the dumbest international political decision made by America. Stupidity only challenged by the domestic political decision to wage war against Americans with Trump’s gestapo of proud boy ICE goons. Yes, the rationale for stopping the Ukraine war is we don't want to spend money, it is not our fight. Meanwhile, the US is going to triple the spending on ICE in 2026 to $30B which would rank it among the top-funded 15 militaries in the world. $30B is close to Israel's military budget at $30.5B. Guess the war isn't against Russia in Ukraine but against your own citizens. Trump has also talked about increasing the size of the US military budget by 50%. Also, what happened to the state department? All the US seems to do lately is use sanctions / military action.
73 Reds Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Spooky said: Yes, the rationale for stopping the Ukraine war is we don't want to spend money, it is not our fight. Meanwhile, the US is going to triple the spending on ICE in 2026 to $30B which would rank it among the top-funded 15 militaries in the world. $30B is close to Israel's military budget at $30.5B. Guess the war isn't against Russia in Ukraine but against your own citizens. Trump has also talked about increasing the size of the US military budget by 50%. Also, what happened to the state department? All the US seems to do lately is use sanctions / military action. @Spooky Wish it didn't have to be this way but Biden created a domestic mess that costs money to resolve.
Spooky Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 23 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: @Spooky Wish it didn't have to be this way but Biden created a domestic mess that costs money to resolve. The republicans are not addressing it. In fact the Big Beautiful Bill they passed blows out the deficit even more. EDIT: Sorry, I misread your post, it wasn’t about the budget. Edited January 14 by Spooky
73 Reds Posted January 14 Posted January 14 13 minutes ago, Spooky said: The republicans are not addressing it. In fact the Big Beautiful Bill they passed blows out the deficit even more. EDIT: Sorry, I misread your post, it wasn’t about the budget. That's OK but you're right about the budget. The issue is always Congress. Reality is, Trump knows that he probably only has 2 years to get anything done. Taking baby steps doesn't accomplish anything. I have my doubts whether we can "grow our way" out of anything but given the other alternative it was the best of two evils IMO.
John Hjorth Posted January 14 Posted January 14 49 minutes ago, cubsfan said: ... Americans want no part of the Ukrainian quagmire. ... But it's naturally OK to make money to sell weapons, ammo into the Russian-Ukranian War, making tons of money to US companies, by supplying such stuff to states supporting Ukraine, right? And as a NATO member to flirt with Russia [PORF - Putin] [Think Alaska meeting!] -And then you just continue to post here about 'other NATO members being behind, contribution-wise' ? Are you dumb, or what? - Perhaps totally deranged?
cubsfan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 42 minutes ago, Spooky said: Also, what happened to the state department? IDK - perhaps you don't understand how our government is structured? Foreign policy is 100% under POTUS. The State Department is under the Executive Branch. All the State department does is carry out the President's foreign policy. That's all that happened.
cubsfan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 46 minutes ago, Spooky said: Yes, the rationale for stopping the Ukraine war is we don't want to spend money, it is not our fight. That's pretty close to correct. Same for Europe, which is unfortunate for Ukraine.
cubsfan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 15 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: But it's naturally OK to make money to sell weapons, ammo into the Russian-Ukranian War, making tons of money to US companies, by supplying such stuff to states supporting Ukraine, right? And as a NATO member to flirt with Russia [PORF - Putin] [Think Alaska meeting!] -And then you just continue to post here about 'other NATO members being behind, contribution-wise' ? Are you dumb, or what? - Perhaps totally deranged? You guys can't make up your minds! First you want weapons, now you don't want weapons - which is it John? What has Denmark done to solve the war in Ukraine John? Oh, yeah - NOTHING. Where are those troops that Macron and Starmer said they were sending to Ukraine until they got slapped down by their own citizens? Keep talking John - that's all you're good for... Edited January 14 by cubsfan
changegonnacome Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: I have my doubts whether we can "grow our way" out of anything but given the other alternative it was the best of two evils IMO. Yep - you might not like Trump but the Democratic ticket had no real agenda to restore fiscal sanity.......Trump's growth boom deregulation thesis at least provided a pathway but like you I'm a little skeptical that you can get the budget under control sufficiently (DOGE proving the point, OBBB confirming the same) while also accelerating the economy enough. Combined you shrink the annual fiscal deficit and then bend the curve on the debt to gdp ratio. The first part of that 'bend the curve' thesis is gone IMO.........DOGE blew up & OBBB was too pork filled.......so now all the heavy lifting has to happen on the growth side which looks shaky right now especially if this jobless GDP growth phenomenon continues.....jobless growth is income tax lite growth.....the growth is only useful to the fiscal to the extent that it drives income tax receipts higher.....giant Manhattan sized data centres with 20 people working in them, that are 100% expensed in Yr1 look great for GDP but are totally useless for incremental income tax receipts (unless AI starts driving job growth plus productivity enhancements versus say job losses)
cubsfan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 15 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: Yep - you might not like Trump but the Democratic ticket had no real agenda to restore fiscal sanity.......Trump's growth boom deregulation thesis at least provided a pathway but like you I'm a little skeptical that you can get the budget under control sufficiently (DOGE proving the point, OBBB confirming the same) while also accelerating the economy enough. Combined you shrink the annual fiscal deficit and then bend the curve on the debt to gdp ratio. The first part of that 'bend the curve' thesis is gone IMO.........DOGE blew up & OBBB was too pork filled.......so now all the heavy lifting has to happen on the growth side which looks shaky right now especially if this jobless GDP growth phenomenon continues.....jobless growth is income tax lite growth.....the growth is only useful to the fiscal to the extent that it drives income tax receipts higher.....giant Manhattan sized data centres with 20 people working in them, that are 100% expensed in Yr1 look great for GDP but are totally useless for incremental income tax receipts (unless AI starts driving job growth plus productivity enhancements versus say job losses) Unfortunately, the Democrats have a massive problem that is now fully exposed. Protection of different interest groups that have been looting America. The news cycle is 24 x 7 on the Somali fraudsters enabled by the Democratic leaders in Minnesota. Now it's going to spread to Ohio, likely followed by NY, CA, and ILL. All welfare fraud. Americans hate the idea of compassionately taking in immigrants only to have them steal the country blind while they work their asses off. We are a generous country, but no one wants to be fleeced. This whole event will take MONTHS to unravel and it will be a killer issue for Democrats in the midterm. Wait until Tim Walz is indicted. The country got a glimpse of this theft under DOGE - until both Republicans and Democrats demand DOGE be dismantled. Turns out, Musk was 100% right: There is massive theft going on in the country. If the number in Minneapolis is $1B or $8B, it will be massively higher under Newsome, Pritzker and Hochul. It's all going to come out.
Gregmal Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Yea I mean that's probably the biggest issue facing the party...they are absolutely AWFUL at picking their fights. Margaritas with a gangbanger and wife beater illegal immigrant? Sure, lets stand with Kilmar...we'll get Trump that way...Texting with Epstein to "get Trump"....sure no one will care! Championing someone running into a law enforcement agent with their car, even when there are videos and even medical records showing the dude's injuries....nah..we good! Heck, standing up for evil Mr Maduro's civil rights cuz "cant.let.Trump.win"....yea let's do it. I mean theres so many other avenues and issues they could focus on that would resonate with most people, especially since the Republicans are so scattershot and horrible at branding....but.....this? Truly bizarre.
Parsad Posted January 14 Posted January 14 GoFundMe's for Ford employee suspended after calling Trump "pedophile protector" is now over $800K USD! Probably will be able to retire soon. Should then run for Congress! Cheers!
Mephistopheles Posted January 14 Posted January 14 https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/twin-cities-realtor-a-us-citizen-held-by-ice-for-almost-10-hours Gestapo
Parsad Posted January 15 Posted January 15 14 minutes ago, Mephistopheles said: https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/twin-cities-realtor-a-us-citizen-held-by-ice-for-almost-10-hours Gestapo And that's according to Joe Rogan! First MTG...now Rogan...he's losing allies by making stupid domestic decisions, let alone foreign policy! Cheers!
dealraker Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Mephistopheles said: https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/twin-cities-realtor-a-us-citizen-held-by-ice-for-almost-10-hours Gestapo I'll bet civil judgements against ICE will tally hundreds of millions. Let's just state this includes a Good thing.
cubsfan Posted January 15 Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, dealraker said: I'll bet civil judgements against ICE will tally hundreds of millions. Let's just state this includes a Good thing. That's ok - the Somali scammer's fraud is already in the billions. Nobody is fooled by these loser protestors protecting thieves.
Spekulatius Posted January 15 Posted January 15 11 hours ago, Spooky said: I hope you are right Reds but I’m not as confident as you. The Rhetoric coming out daily about seizing Greenland by military force if necessary from another NATO member is troubling to say the least. That would be the end of the alliance. Also, the proposed peace plan with Russia and Ukraine had the US acting as a mediator between Russia and NATO. How can they be a mediator if they are still in NATO. The last point I want to raise is the national security strategy policy document Cubs is such a fan of - it has a lot of troubling stuff vis a vis Europe, as though Europe is an enemy of the US. The US has already left NATO. That’s clear since the Ukraine peace plan and the National security document. For example when Trump states, that he mediates between NATO and Russia, it’s clear that he does not see himself being part of NATO.
Parsad Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Denmark and France are sending troops to Greenland! Can you fucking believe that? NATO allies sending troops to an autonomous territory because another NATO member is threatening military action to annex Greenland from Denmark. This is fucking crazy! The Hitler/Nazi comparisons are slowly coming to fruition. He's willing to start military action against allies, while TACOing with Iran! Cheers!
cubsfan Posted January 15 Posted January 15 6 minutes ago, Parsad said: Denmark and France are sending troops to Greenland! Can you fucking believe that? NATO allies sending troops to an autonomous territory because another NATO member is threatening military action to annex Greenland from Denmark. This is fucking crazy! The Hitler/Nazi comparisons are slowly coming to fruition. He's willing to start military action against allies, while TACOing with Iran! Cheers! That's frickin' hilarious. So much for them defending Ukraine!
TwoCitiesCapital Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Another month of fiscal conservatives in office....another month of record breaking deficit figures. Go figure.
Parsad Posted January 15 Posted January 15 24 minutes ago, cubsfan said: That's frickin' hilarious. So much for them defending Ukraine! When Russia is the 2nd biggest threat...what's that say about U.S./NATO relations! But you'll fucking ignore anything...just like you've done for over a year. It's all good in Cubs Land! It's a Small World is made up of ICE Agents pirouetting with automatic weapons firing on U.S. citizens Buzz Lightyear is Elon Musk flying around impregnating one woman after another nazi saluting MAGA faithful Goofy, Minnie and Mickey are all replaced with Bessent, Bondi and Rubio Frontier Land Shooting Exposition now has live ammunition Great Moments w/Mr. Lincoln is replaced with Only The Best Speeches by Donald Trump Guardians of the Galaxy is now SpaceForce Jungle Cruise is used to deport Somalis Mad Tea Party is just another day in the Whitehouse Pinocchio's Daring Journey is a night at Epstein Island Pirates of the Caribbean is revamped as Pirates of NATO! Cheers!
DooDiligence Posted January 15 Posted January 15 I'm fine as long as they don't fuck with Mario and Donkey Kong. /s
Parsad Posted January 15 Posted January 15 58 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: I'm fine as long as they don't fuck with Mario and Donkey Kong. /s Well, we all know Mario has been illegal for a long time...and not paying the IRS taxes! And they already sent Donkey Kong to Venezuela...all those barrels of oil to load onto tanker ships. Cheers!
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