backtothebeach Posted March 20 Posted March 20 12 minutes ago, cubsfan said: This Iranian guy is well ahead of much of the mainstream media with his contacts in Iran. Turns out almost everything I've heard from him is correct. Thanks, I think I came across this one in January during the protests, but had forgotten about him. Not neutral, but good reporting.
John Hjorth Posted March 20 Posted March 20 17 minutes ago, backtothebeach said: Serious question: Where do you guys go to get factual news about this war? Ideally a place that summarizes what happened, which side hit where, without any propaganda from either side. Ideally not x.com. @backtothebeach, My primary sources on such stuff like this are Reuters and AP News. Western MSM are severely biased, and a lot of stuff is copied from domain to domain, without any fact checking and skeptisism. I actually donate to AP News every year to keep them going. I do use a lot of other sources too, but try to dive in a find the primary source, if it's important. High velocity stuff like wars is a challenge for us all.
Parsad Posted March 20 Posted March 20 59 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Iran is hiring for all government positions. 4 More IRGC Generals killed today. No experience necessary. 34 minutes ago, flesh said: Do I get 72 virgins? 30 minutes ago, ourkid8 said: Unfortunately you won’t see it until someone starts rooting out the pariah Zionists from the US. - the time will come as the every day Americans are getting sick of it. (similar to how Trump rooted out DEI) Not appropriate! Cubs/flesh, these are sovereign leaders (as dislikable as they are) being assassinated...no United Nations, no due process, no international court...nothing! Ourkid8, you could have left it at pariah...not sure why Zionist needed to be in there! I don't understand why everyone thinks they have a clear understanding or have developed this overwhelming dislike of either Jew or Muslim. They have the exact same lineage...they are the same fucking people! You guys are taking sides because of a handful of extremist leaders on each side. Most Jews and most Muslims are no different than any of you weirdos! Please let go of the bigoted views. Otherwise I start banning again! Cheers! Cheers!
RichardGibbons Posted March 20 Posted March 20 23 hours ago, cubsfan said: Actually - the lesson that the USA has learned is how worthless and cowardly our "allies" are. Yep, Canada learned this back in January 2025.
ourkid8 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 12 minutes ago, Parsad said: Not appropriate! Cubs/flesh, these are sovereign leaders (as dislikable as they are) being assassinated...no United Nations, no due process, no international court...nothing! Ourkid8, you could have left it at pariah...not sure why Zionist needed to be in there! I don't understand why everyone thinks they have a clear understanding or have developed this overwhelming dislike of either Jew or Muslim. They have the exact same lineage...they are the same fucking people! You guys are taking sides because of a handful of extremist leaders on each side. Most Jews and most Muslims are no different than any of you weirdos! Please let go of the bigoted views. Otherwise I start banning again! Cheers! Cheers! What is your concern in using the word Zionism? I am not attacking the religion(Judaism) as I have a lot of respect for Orthodox Jews who actually follow the religion and live by the principals.
cwericb Posted March 20 Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, RichardGibbons said: Yep, Canada learned this back in January 2025. Well said!
Sweet Posted March 20 Posted March 20 11 minutes ago, Parsad said: Cubs/flesh, these are sovereign leaders (as dislikable as they are) being assassinated...no United Nations, no due process, no international court...nothing! Iran and its leaders didn’t use the United Nations, International Courts or extend due process to all those they have killed through their proxy wars. Iran has been in an undeclared war with many of its neighbours by acting through these proxies. I would agree with you when it comes to most world leaders, but when the leaders of said country don’t abide by any of the things you mentioned, and arm and promote war throughout the region, I just can’t get on board. The golden rule. Treat others how you want to be treated. Iranian leaders are getting what they earned IMO.
cubsfan Posted March 20 Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, Sweet said: The golden rule. Treat others how you want to be treated. Iranian leaders are getting what they earned IMO. Pretty clear. A government of terrorist killers that we are at war with do not deserve a trial. They were offered to surrender or leave in order to save their own lives. These are in no way honorable people.
SharperDingaan Posted March 20 Posted March 20 It isn't going well. Orange Boy cannot get out; if he could, he would have already done so. Now it's panic time, hence the anger. SD
dwy000 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) Something about declaring a win and walking away.... Edited March 20 by dwy000
John Hjorth Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SharperDingaan said: It isn't going well. Orange Boy cannot get out; if he could, he would have already done so. Now it's panic time, hence the anger. SD How have you positioned yourself by now, SD [ @SharperDingaan ]? -Btw, the way I overall understand Canadian economy, superficially only by now, isen't it good for the Canadian economy? Edited March 20 by John Hjorth
cubsfan Posted March 20 Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, SharperDingaan said: It isn't going well. Orange Boy cannot get out; if he could, he would have already done so. Now it's panic time, hence the anger. SD You're definitely watching a different war than everyone else.
SharperDingaan Posted March 20 Posted March 20 29 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Something about declaring a win and walking away.... Yet still just yapping and not actually leaving SD
Xerxes Posted March 20 Posted March 20 48 minutes ago, Sweet said: Iran and its leaders didn’t use the United Nations, International Courts or extend due process to all those they have killed through their proxy wars. Iran has been in an undeclared war with many of its neighbours by acting through these proxies. I would agree with you when it comes to most world leaders, but when the leaders of said country don’t abide by any of the things you mentioned, and arm and promote war throughout the region, I just can’t get on board. The golden rule. Treat others how you want to be treated. Iranian leaders are getting what they earned IMO. it is too bad the same logic doesn’t apply to say proponent of Vietnam war. Namely LBJ, Nixon, Westmoreland and other ..
Parsad Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Sweet said: Iran and its leaders didn’t use the United Nations, International Courts or extend due process to all those they have killed through their proxy wars. Iran has been in an undeclared war with many of its neighbours by acting through these proxies. I would agree with you when it comes to most world leaders, but when the leaders of said country don’t abide by any of the things you mentioned, and arm and promote war throughout the region, I just can’t get on board. The golden rule. Treat others how you want to be treated. Iranian leaders are getting what they earned IMO. You contradict yourself in the final sentence of your post. Why aspire to the Golden Rule if you will only live it when others do! Cheers!
Gregmal Posted March 21 Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Parsad said: You contradict yourself in the final sentence of your post. Why aspire to the Golden Rule if you will only live it when others do! Cheers! Treat others the way you want to be treated is a primer. Treat them how they treat you afterwards is the way to go.
Parsad Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 hours ago, ourkid8 said: What is your concern in using the word Zionism? I am not attacking the religion(Judaism) as I have a lot of respect for Orthodox Jews who actually follow the religion and live by the principals. Using it in tandem with "pariah" makes the context offensive...not neutral or positive. I don't understand how such smart people on here cannot understand that context is everything. Cheers!
Spekulatius Posted March 21 Posted March 21 6 hours ago, Sweet said: Iran has funded lots of the wars throughout the Middle East through their proxies. Doesn’t make sense to equate the two. North Korea literally send an army to fight in Ukraine. They also build a nuclear reactor capable of producing plutonium in Syria for the Assad regime (who had an inclination to use unconventional weapons as we later found out) that was destroyed by Israel (Al Kinar reactor, Operation Orchard). https://www.nti.org/education-center/facilities/al-kibar-nuclear/ This stuff never made the news much because the truth came out so much later. Syria never admitted to build this reactor so they didn’t complain when Israel destroyed it.
Parsad Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Just now, Gregmal said: Treat others the way you want to be treated is a primer. Treat them how they treat you afterwards is the way to go. So you will only give gifts to your children at Christmas if they've given you one first? My brother has an amazing view on this that I've latched on to for the last decade. Funny how sometimes the younger brother is so much smarter! He told me a long time ago..."only do things for people if you want to, and don't ever do it with any expectations." My life has been so much happier, I've given and done way more than I ever would have, and I can somehow run this message board without feeling like I need to strangle all of you! Cheers!
Spekulatius Posted March 21 Posted March 21 5 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Agreed. Pretty much every prior venture in the Middle East has resulted in failure. If we picked up and left today, the mission would be deemed a success, at least insofar as setting Iran's nuclear capabilities back. If the goal is containment we can rinse and repeat as necessary - no one can legitimately refute that with a straight face as long as we have an Administration willing to do so. But the goal for now is higher. The problem is that every action will create a counter action (actio =reactio in physics). What this counter reaction will be like remains to be seen. I think it’s naive to think we can just leave tomorrow and call it a day.
Xerxes Posted March 21 Posted March 21 3 hours ago, cubsfan said: This Iranian guy is well ahead of much of the mainstream media with his contacts in Iran. Turns out almost everything I've heard from him is correct. I watched half way through. I had to stop as I had to make the drive to Ontario for new year stuff. He seems to be doing a good aggregating the news of the day. That said in the way he speaks he comes off as a bit FOX-y, so that comes a bit off.
Marco Van Basten Posted March 21 Posted March 21 4 hours ago, ourkid8 said: Unfortunately you won’t see it until someone starts rooting out the pariah Zionists from the US. - the time will come as the every day Americans are getting sick of it. (similar to how Trump rooted out DEI) Pariah Zionists? You clearly mean pariah Jews! After all, the Hebrew Bible clearly tells the Jews that they should live in the land of Israel, Jews have lived in the land that is now Israel for three thousand years. Arabs are the colonizers that wiped out the Samaritans, Nabateans, as well as largely driven out Armenians and Greeks in Lebanon, Copts & Armenians & Greeks in Egypt, Chaldeans, Yazidis, and Assyrians in Syria & Iraq. Do you call Turks pariahs, given that they came over from Central Asia and drove out the Greeks and Armenians and massacred both in the 19th and 20th centuries? What about Azeris who have just kicked out Armenians from the land the Armenians have lived on for three thousand years? The list goes on. By the way, do you call Germans pariahs for believing that Germans should live in Germany given that they came over from the east, or the French, or English or Hungarians? Is the honor of pariahs is just reserved for the Jews?
SharperDingaan Posted March 21 Posted March 21 3 hours ago, John Hjorth said: How have you positioned yourself by now, SD [ @SharperDingaan ]? O/G, BTC, drug dealers Wherever we can ... minimum USD exposure and long straddles on Orange Boy. May the gods protect his Twitter fingers! ..... and the next guy/gal not miss!! SD
cubsfan Posted March 21 Posted March 21 58 minutes ago, Xerxes said: I watched half way through. I had to stop as I had to make the drive to Ontario for new year stuff. He seems to be doing a good aggregating the news of the day. That said in the way he speaks he comes off as a bit FOX-y, so that comes a bit off. Yeah, don't know a thing about him. He certainly is happy about the possibility of regime change.
Spekulatius Posted March 21 Posted March 21 I find see this until now but there is a side theatre where especially the IDF bombs the Iranian marine assets (including ships that supposedly transport drones from Russia to Iran) in the Kaspian sea. https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-890567 Also it was not clear to me is that the why the IDF bombed the Iranian South Pars gas field. It made news that Iranian retaliated against the liquefaction assets of the same field on the Quatar side. The reason the IDF did this is because Iran needs this gas for their power grid , which runs mostly on NG. It is quite possible that the shortage of NG leads to power outages later in Iran. This would be highly destabilizing for their economy and the regime. https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/iran-war-us-israel-trump-03-19-26?post-id=cmmxc50s700013b6r938d1l4h FWIW, I think the Marines being sent over to the Gulf area are likely to be used to occupy Kharg and use it a leverage against the Iran regime.
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