John Hjorth Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 3 hours ago, Eldad said: Brian Kilmeade says maybe we should just kill the problem homeless if they won’t abide by the programs set up to help them. Is there anyone left in this country with good judgement or impulse control? @Eldad, Ask for advice about homelessness in Norway and Denmark. I.e. : Reasons to be cheerful [June 26th 2025] : How Norway Is Proving That Homelessness Is a Solvable Problem Subtitle : The Scandinavian nation has significantly reduced the number of people experiencing homelessness. What could other countries learn from its example?
Spekulatius Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 (edited) What nonsense is this - ICE is totally out of control. Edited September 14, 2025 by Spekulatius
Sweet Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 34 minutes ago, Spekulatius said: What nonsense is this - ICE is totally out of control. Why were they thrown out
whiskybravo Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 1 hour ago, Sweet said: Why were they thrown out I suspect you may look to your countrymen Judas Priest for the answer
Eldad Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 (edited) I’m starting to think Sweet is right. This may be a different and more widespread level of hate. The stories are just pouring in from everywhere. That or the GOP has caught their DOX game up to the Democrats. Have you seen this NJ doctor Matthew Jung? Nurse says “Oh my God Charlie Kirk was just killed.” Jung says “I hate Charlie Kirk, he had it coming, he deserved it” in front of 8 nurses and a patient on a stretcher. I mean WTH? How are you that big of an idiot? The nurse spoke up and they tried to fire her. She is obviously suing. I mean his life is basically over. Will lose his license, etc.. Unbelievably crazy that the hate is so deep they can’t help it almost. Edited September 14, 2025 by Eldad
Sweet Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 15 minutes ago, Eldad said: I’m starting to think Sweet is right. This may be a different and more widespread level of hate. The stories are just pouring in from everywhere. That or the GOP has caught their DOX game up to the Democrats. Have you seen this NJ doctor Matthew Jung? Nurse says “Oh my God Charlie Kirk was just killed.” Jung says “I hate Charlie Kirk, he had it coming, he deserved it” in front of 8 nurses and a patient on a stretcher. I mean WTH? How are you that big of an idiot? The nurse spoke up and they tried to fire her. She is obviously suing. I mean his life is basically over. Will lose his license, etc.. Unbelievably crazy that the hate is so deep they can’t help it almost. I spent too much time on some of these stupid forums when I was younger - unfortunately. There are a lot of whacky people out there. My wife was saying that when the United Healthcare CEO was shot several people in her work were saying ‘good’, ‘one down x amount to go’ etc. For some reason people think they can say this vile shit in public now and act as if YOU are the weird one for thinking killing people is wrong.
LC Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 3 hours ago, Sweet said: And after I’ve blown off steam I’m going to try and ignore US politics again - for as long as I can Good advice for all of us active in this thread, I'd imagine. Myself included!
LC Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 11 minutes ago, Sweet said: For some reason people think they can say this vile shit in public now and act as if YOU are the weird one for thinking killing people is wrong. I firmly believe that the widespread misery of millions trumps the lives of a few greedy, inhumane people. I mean, if one's job is to deny cancer therapy to a few thousand grandparents to earn bonuses and increase earnings, they don't get to be upset when that same logic is applied back to them. It's real easy to say "well nobody should shoot anyone else!". No shit, Sherlock. It's much harder to say "well healthcare CEOs shouldn't lobby for laws allowing them to deny and delay life-saving care to thousands and millions of people". At the end of the day those two actions are one in the same and yet some people want to make excuses for one and not the other. I find that type of hypocrisy disgusting.
Sweet Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LC said: I firmly believe that the widespread misery of millions trumps the lives of a few greedy, inhumane people. I mean, if one's job is to deny cancer therapy to a few thousand grandparents to earn bonuses and increase earnings, they don't get to be upset when that same logic is applied back to them. It's real easy to say "well nobody should shoot anyone else!". No shit, Sherlock. It's much harder to say "well healthcare CEOs shouldn't lobby for laws allowing them to deny and delay life-saving care to thousands and millions of people". At the end of the day those two actions are one in the same and yet some people want to make excuses for one and not the other. I find that type of hypocrisy disgusting. I agree with much of that and I think people have a right to be angry. But I don’t think refusing health care (because of some insurance technicality - or whatever) is the same are cold blooded murder. Murder is an intentional act to kill, whereas not providing health care is unwillingness to save. Big difference morally. Still… I think you guys need to get your Government to put their boot on the neck of these companies. Edited September 14, 2025 by Sweet
LC Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 I wouldn't call it a technicality. These policies are specifically designed to deny and delay coverage as long as possible. And if the law stands in the way, then they try and change the law. There is intent behind these "technicalities". It's like saying "well let me point this gun at you for weeks, months, years on end. And if it happens to accidentally misfire during the years I've been pointing it at you, well that's not my fault - I didn't pull the trigger" It's a distinction without a difference - and that is the shield that these greedy, inhumane people hide behind. So when that shield is broken, well it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Sweet Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 17 minutes ago, LC said: I wouldn't call it a technicality. These policies are specifically designed to deny and delay coverage as long as possible. And if the law stands in the way, then they try and change the law. There is intent behind these "technicalities". It's like saying "well let me point this gun at you for weeks, months, years on end. And if it happens to accidentally misfire during the years I've been pointing it at you, well that's not my fault - I didn't pull the trigger" It's a distinction without a difference - and that is the shield that these greedy, inhumane people hide behind. So when that shield is broken, well it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I’ll never agree that killing someone because of this is ok. But it’s also clear I don’t know enough about these laws. I’ll do some reading.
LC Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 I agree...of course it's not OK, none of what we're discussing is OK...that's the trouble, I suppose
Gregmal Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 2 hours ago, Eldad said: Have you seen this NJ doctor Matthew Jung? Nurse says “Oh my God Charlie Kirk was just killed.” Jung says “I hate Charlie Kirk, he had it coming, he deserved it” in front of 8 nurses and a patient on a stretcher. I mean WTH? How are you that big of an idiot? Yup. Not surprising at all. Such much of the elitist liberal filth like that in those areas. He likely retreats to his mid 7 figure estate, in a nice safe neighborhood with ample security and police presence. But of course enjoys waiving around his philanthropic and virtue signaling hobbies.
DooDiligence Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 It'd be hilarious if it was a Southpark episode. White men! Fight back! The voice(s) of the downtrodden.
DooDiligence Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 It's good to be white. AMIRIGHT? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2622774/ === When do we get to the stage where drug kingpins pay for play? Oh, wait. We're already there. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sackler-family-purdue-pharma-reach-7-4-billion-with-15-states-over-opioid-crisis/ === Like I said, it's good to be white. All ya'll other crusty motherfuckers can rot in jail.
Castanza Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 52 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: It won't be long now. There isn’t an ethnic group out there that doesn’t have their own version of this. Did you forget about NFAC? Stop trying to stir the pot…
DooDiligence Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 but I digress. Who we canonizing today? I mean besides a shit stirring podcaster.
DooDiligence Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/27/politics/white-house-flag-john-mccain-tribute not a podcaster served with distinction dissed by a draft dodger
cwericb Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 47 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/27/politics/white-house-flag-john-mccain-tribute not a podcaster served with distinction dissed by a draft dodger John McCain was the very definition of a hero. In 1967 as a Navy pilot during Vietnam, McCain was shot down, seriously injured, captured, regularly severely beaten and tortured. In 1968 his captors discovered that his father was Admiral McCain and in a PR move John McCain was offered release. He refused release until all those captured before him were given their freedom. His beatings and torture continued until he was eventually released in 1973. As one who refused to fight and dodged the draft numerous times, Trump's actions upon McCain's death should have been an embarrassment to the country for which John McCain fought, but it did show the true character of the President of the United States. Sadly, few if any of the President's supporters seem to have cared.
LC Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 1 hour ago, Castanza said: There isn’t an ethnic group out there that doesn’t have their own version of this. Did you forget about NFAC? This is turning into one of the less-discussed side effects of the 2nd Amendment - it creates this armed mentality all around. Protestors need military grade guns. So police need military grade guns. And it continues to escalate and then spills out of control. It reminds me of an often quoted battlestar galactica scene:
Sweet Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 5 hours ago, DooDiligence said: It won't be long now. This is a small group of nuts. However, this movement will grow when people like Kirk are considered fascist and killed for their opinions. By killing right wingers who just wanted a chat you drive people to the violent right wingers.
Sweet Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, Castanza said: There isn’t an ethnic group out there that doesn’t have their own version of this. Did you forget about NFAC? Stop trying to stir the pot… Yeh, and there are other groups like this. Saw a video of a black nationalist basically saying go out and kill white people. Not sure if it’s the same group as this one. Edited September 15, 2025 by Sweet
Sweet Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 8 hours ago, Gregmal said: Yup. Not surprising at all. Such much of the elitist liberal filth like that in those areas. He likely retreats to his mid 7 figure estate, in a nice safe neighborhood with ample security and police presence. But of course enjoys waiving around his philanthropic and virtue signaling hobbies. I see lots of internet warriors trying to get these people sacked. Their view is if you think other people using their free speech deserve death then you can’t complain if your free speech gets you fired. At the very least I think it would be good to get back to a time that even if you believe these things, you keep your mouth shut in your professional capacity.
Spekulatius Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 (edited) I don’t know who this kid is posting on TT but he is probably closer to the truth than most commentators. Tyler Robinson belonged to a group that call themselves Groyper apparently which is an alt right group that is probably best described as nihilist. Also, Kirk it seems to me ran demagogy as a business. How do you explain him proposing public executions and reconcile this with traditional Christian world views? Even his wife after his death is basically fanning flames here “they don’t know what they unleashed “. Sounds like demagogy to me. Who is “they”? What we are seeing here is a fracturing society fanned by various forces and now a president who is as divisive as he possibly can be. There are subcultures through social media and other reasons become quietly or not so quietly radicalized and nihilist for the lack of a better term. When he push nihilism to the extreme than indeed a murder become the same thing than a shitpost which is the point above poster is making. Sadly, if true, my guess is that we will see more of this happening. Edited September 15, 2025 by Spekulatius
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