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[hillfronter83]

3 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

I guess the "stolen wallets" don't just apply to the small fries, this also scales. In my opinion PDD is most likely to be fraudulent of the big tech co's in China with no CFO and an obvious '"fall guy" signing up the financials, as well as other red flags.

Certainly not a small fry. This is the founder of QIHU, which he took private from US exchange for $9 billion in 2016 and relisted in China for about 300 billion RMB, which is worth about 70 billion RMB.

[Castanza]

10 hours ago, 50centdollars said:

who voted these clowns in?

 

Something tells me you might enjoy this Twitter account

https://x.com/trudeaus_ego/status/1706453975061475605?s=46

 

Sad to see Canada and the US in the state they are in. Politicians are so out of touch with what the people want or what’s best for both countries it’s starting to look like France just before the chateaus started burning. 

[John Hjorth]

Translated from Danish to English :

 

jp.dk JP [Jylllandsposten][September 25^th 2023] : The case unsolved: A year after the Nord Stream explosions, the investigation is completely blacked out.

 

Original article here.

[Luke]

8 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

Translated from Danish to English :

 

jp.dk JP [Jylllandsposten][September 25^th 2023] : The case unsolved: A year after the Nord Stream explosions, the investigation is completely blacked out.

 

Original article here.

Its scandalous, was such a severe attack on the economy and its citizens, a shame it went so much under the rug. Also hilarious how collectively everybody here thinks their government doesnt know what its doing and that the people are incompetent. The hierarchies are corrupted! True for the US, Germany, Canada, doesnt matter which country. 

[50centdollars]

2 hours ago, Castanza said:

 

Something tells me you might enjoy this Twitter account

https://x.com/trudeaus_ego/status/1706453975061475605?s=46

 

Sad to see Canada and the US in the state they are in. Politicians are so out of touch with what the people want or what’s best for both countries it’s starting to look like France just before the chateaus started burning. 

lol that's my favorite account. I heard the Liberals tried to get that account banned. Fuck Trudeau and his Liberal retards.

[UK]

2 hours ago, Luca said:

Its scandalous, was such a severe attack on the economy and its citizens, a shame it went so much under the rug. Also hilarious how collectively everybody here thinks their government doesnt know what its doing and that the people are incompetent. The hierarchies are corrupted! True for the US, Germany, Canada, doesnt matter which country. 

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/nord-stream-2-germany-bears-responsibility-for-ukraine-war-minister/

 

It is scandalous, but no less scandalous than the fact that these pipes were build in the first place:)))

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by UK

[John Hjorth]

3 hours ago, Luca said:

Its scandalous, was such a severe attack on the economy and its citizens, a shame it went so much under the rug. Also hilarious how collectively everybody here thinks their government doesnt know what its doing and that the people are incompetent. The hierarchies are corrupted! True for the US, Germany, Canada, doesnt matter which country. 

 

This actually a bit funny, @Luca,

 

From the JP front page :

This Marchen Neel Gjertsen [the woman to the right] is actual the editor in chief at JP, and running a podcast with her colleague, the podcast called 'Under the rug'. 

 

She is a neat piece of eye candy, 38 years old, and appointed to the position not so long ago. The theme is all kinds of critical stuff and dirt digged up in Danish politics and such stuff about Danish politicians at power. I think I started reading her stuff about eight years ago or so, and I thought she was a real real PITA. Today I must say I really like her. Here it's just unheard of to get appointed editor in chief at age 38. She is very good, and she likely still has a very long runway, where tiny Denmark becomes too tight for her at some time in the future, I think.

Edited September 26, 2023 by John Hjorth

[Luke]

1 hour ago, John Hjorth said:

 

This actually a bit funny, @Luca,

 

From the JP front page :

This Marchen Neel Gjertsen [the woman to the right] is actual the editor in chief at JP, and running a podcast with her colleague, the podcast called 'Under the rug'. 

 

She is a neat piece of eye candy, 38 years old, and appointed to the position not so long ago. The theme is all kinds of critical stuff and dirt digged up in Danish politics and such stuff about Danish politicians at power. I think I started reading her stuff about eight years ago or so, and I thought she was a real real PITA. Today I must say I really like her. Here it's just unheard of to get appointed editor in chief at age 38. She is very good, and she likely still has a very long runway, where tiny Denmark becomes too tight for her at some time in the future, I think.

Thanks for sharing, good you found some fountain of refreshing views on today's politics. I continue to enjoy Sahra Wagenknecht for quality alternative viewpoints regarding Ukraine, Covid etc. Hated and loved by many in our country

[John Hjorth]

Thank you, @Luca,

 

Yes, I practice gallows humor [German : Galgen witz, Danish : Galgenhumor] to mentally cope with and to mentally survive the madness thats going on here in Europe. It is for sure needed.

 

I have started to follow Sahra Wagenknecht, based on the content of your last post. My spoken German is a bit rusty, but I have no problem taking care of dailyday activity by speaking German, while in Germany, while I have absolutely no problem with understading all shades and nuances of the German language spoken or written. [Insufficient active vocabulary, because of lack of practice].

 

I also feel like a touchy bitch when our North American friends here on CoBF talks about money and starts blending US South border security into this European warfare matter.

 

It concerns preventive measures in relation to 1st or 2nd order effects in relation to other and European NATO member states in case the situation escalates further. If our common North American CoBF members cannot or will not understand this, then I am not able to explain it.

 

Just to try to trigger some kind of embarrassment into our fellow North American CoBF members with such stance, I will try to dig up some factual data about how Denmark has behaved in relation to Ukrainian refugees coming to Denmark since the war in Ukraine started.

 

@Luca,

 

Nassim Taleb would express it as "You simply don't have the same skin in the game as your North American friends on CoBF." -Period.

 

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Edit :

 

Bloomberg [September 26^th 2023] : Erdogan Says Turkish Approval of Sweden NATO Bid Hinges on F-16s.

 

Just Recep Tayyip Erdogan oportunistic modus operandi.

Edited September 26, 2023 by John Hjorth

[Dinar]

@John Hjorth, as US taxpayer, I do not have a problem with welcoming Ukrainian refugees to the US.  I think US will gain mightily from these mostly highly educated and hardworking people.  I do have a problem with a porous border, that allows millions of people from Haiti, Yemen, Africa, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Latin America to cross into the US, people who at best will be a drain on society, and at worst will commit crimes and terrorist acts.  Keep in mind, unskilled immigrants also destroy job prospects and wage growth for unskilled Americans, creating all sorts of social problems - alcoholism, drug addiction, broken families, fatherless children, and the list goes on.

Edited September 26, 2023 by Dinar

[John Hjorth]

19 hours ago, mcliu said:

Was peace possible if NATO agreed to stop its expansion?

 

@mcliu,

 

I have to say I'm actually more than just surprised to see this video clip by Mr. Stoltenberg. Huge red flag. What I'm curious about is a date / time stamp for this statement, and the written statement by Mr. Putin, and its date. I have to admit, that this somehow has skipped my attention.

[rogermunibond]

Latest from Martin Wolf on how China can avoid the Japan trap focusing on underconsumption.

 

https://on.ft.com/3LCi1SM

Edited September 26, 2023 by rogermunibond

[no_free_lunch]

John,

 

If you watch the video, the conditions to NOT invade was removal of all allies from the block that had joined since 1997, this includes Poland, Romania, Hungary, and other Eastern European countries.  Why does it matter to him so much, this is not his territory. and these territories were not traditionally part of the Russian empire.  They can join up with whoever they want to.  The EU needs to be a little bit assertive, you are up against a tyrant, you do not need to bow to his rules or demands.

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by no_free_lunch

[Dinar]

38 minutes ago, no_free_lunch said:

John,

 

If you watch the video, the conditions to NOT invade was removal of all allies from the block that had joined since 1997, this includes Poland, Romania, Hungary, and other Eastern European countries.  Why does it matter to him so much, this is not his territory. and these territories were not traditionally part of the Russian empire.  They can join up with whoever they want to.  The EU needs to be a little bit assertive, you are up against a tyrant, you do not need to bow to his rules or demands.

 

 

Putin is a degenerate, and should not have invaded, nor has he any right to dictate to free nations how to behave, but you lose all credibility with posts like this.  Poland was part of the Russian empire, so were the Baltic States and Finland.  Western Ukraine (Galicia) was not.  

[Luke]

48 minutes ago, no_free_lunch said:

John,

 

If you watch the video, the conditions to NOT invade was removal of all allies from the block that had joined since 1997, this includes Poland, Romania, Hungary, and other Eastern European countries.  Why does it matter to him so much, this is not his territory. and these territories were not traditionally part of the Russian empire.  They can join up with whoever they want to.  The EU needs to be a little bit assertive, you are up against a tyrant, you do not need to bow to his rules or demands.

 

 

Always reverse the logic and try to think about what the US would do if there would be a chinese/russian "defensive" military alliance that starts to expand around the US and starts talking with mexico about setting up some missiles operated together with mexican military. We saw that happening before and the US got very very threatening with violence. 

[no_free_lunch]

13 minutes ago, Dinar said:

Putin is a degenerate, and should not have invaded, nor has he any right to dictate to free nations how to behave, but you lose all credibility with posts like this.  Poland was part of the Russian empire, so were the Baltic States and Finland.  Western Ukraine (Galicia) was not.  

Well this part of the debate I think can be resolved amicably.  I do not intend to mislead.  As I understand the history, Poland was an independent country for hundreds of years up until 1800 or so.   At that point it was split up by several countries including yes, Russia.  However, I would not call it Russian territory historically or ethnically.  It would be like saying that Russia is really a Mongolian country because they ruled for a period.

[Luke]

And the EU is not up against a tyrant, Ukraine is. It's not our war, we have some responsibility for the cause but that doesnt mean we should do what we are doing. Right now germany still imports russian gas but via ships and other countries (so stupid and for a higher price even) just because we thought its a good idea to "get tough" with russia. 

[UK]

38 minutes ago, Luca said:

Always reverse the logic and try to think about what the US would do if there would be a chinese/russian "defensive" military alliance that starts to expand around the US and starts talking with mexico about setting up some missiles operated together with mexican military. We saw that happening before and the US got very very threatening with violence. 

 

Well of course US would not allow that.  And it does the opposite in the South China sea etc. And it is not always because it is right or wrong...but because it can and has power to do it:)

 

But Luca, let me ask, is US/NATO/EU sphere of influence for you is the same as Russia's/China's? I already asked on this thread: name me one country which made substantial progress for the better under Russia's influence In the last 20 or 30 years? I can name you a few which didn't and many, which prospered under NATO/EU. Accidentally, one of them is former German Democratic Republic. Or it was also mistake, hypocrisy and it was supposed to be left for Russia, or at least out of NATO, as WAS promised before unification? 

 

It is not foregone conclusion, but Ukraine (maybe not all) has a decent chance to became a similarly normal country, maybe not as cool as former eastern Germany, but way way better then it was or Russia is today. Which would be a huge plus for EU/NATO and of course this is what scares Putin most: truly successful Slavic country right next door. 

 

So again: what US/NATO/EU would mean for Ukraine and what Putin can offer? This is why most people of Ukraine supported this whole bloody struggle from its beginning in 2013.

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by UK

[cubsfan]

4 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

Thank you, @Luca,

 

Yes, I practice gallows humor [German : Galgen witz, Danish : Galgenhumor] to mentally cope with and to mentally survive the madness thats going on here in Europe. It is for sure needed.

 

I have started to follow Sahra Wagenknecht, based on the content of your last post. My spoken German is a bit rusty, but I have no problem taking care of dailyday activity by speaking German, while in Germany, while I have absolutely no problem with understading all shades and nuances of the German language spoken or written. [Insufficient active vocabulary, because of lack of practice].

 

I also feel like a touchy bitch when our North American friends here on CoBF talks about money and starts blending US South border security into this European warfare matter.

 

It concerns preventive measures in relation to 1st or 2nd order effects in relation to other and European NATO member states in case the situation escalates further. If our common North American CoBF members cannot or will not understand this, then I am not able to explain it.

 

Just to try to trigger some kind of embarrassment into our fellow North American CoBF members with such stance, I will try to dig up some factual data about how Denmark has behaved in relation to Ukrainian refugees coming to Denmark since the war in Ukraine started.

 

@Luca,

 

Nassim Taleb would express it as "You simply don't have the same skin in the game as your North American friends on CoBF." -Period.

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

Edit :

 

Bloomberg [September 26^th 2023] : Erdogan Says Turkish Approval of Sweden NATO Bid Hinges on F-16s.

 

Just Recep Tayyip Erdogan oportunistic modus operandi.

John - don’t get me wrong. The US support for the actions against Russia in Ukraine is very strong in this country. But, concurrently, you have the worst border crisis is history happening. It’s getting worse every month. 
 

So you have 100,000 Americans per year dying of fentanyl poisoning. Every year . Shit, we only lost 5 or 6,000 in Afghanistan and Iraq combined over 20 years!  The Mexican cartels are killing Americans as they flood the country with fentanyl. Not to mention widespread child & human trafficking. The southern border is a catastrophe.

 

Americans are finally catching on, and support for an administration that spends hundreds of billions to protect another country’s borders, but nothing to protect US borders is causing support for Ukraine to fail.

 

it’s a real danger to the cause - so don’t shoot the messenger.

 

in the end, the US has weak, corrupt and terrible leadership. Everyone knows that Biden is corrupt to Ukraine - payoffs & bribes. Biden & son took his bribes way back in 2015, but did nothing to protect Ukraine back then.

[cubsfan]

3 hours ago, Dinar said:

@John Hjorth, as US taxpayer, I do not have a problem with welcoming Ukrainian refugees to the US.  I think US will gain mightily from these mostly highly educated and hardworking people.  I do have a problem with a porous border, that allows millions of people from Haiti, Yemen, Africa, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Latin America to cross into the US, people who at best will be a drain on society, and at worst will commit crimes and terrorist acts.  Keep in mind, unskilled immigrants also destroy job prospects and wage growth for unskilled Americans, creating all sorts of social problems - alcoholism, drug addiction, broken families, fatherless children, and the list goes on.

Bingo! And exactly right!

[Spekulatius]

Underconsumption? They just need to give these Moonlight Clan people some stimi checks - they will spent it. Problem solved:

 

 

[mcliu]

$100B more to maintain current stalemate.. 

"Milley says: there will be no military victory."

 

 

[cubsfan]

24 minutes ago, mcliu said:

$100B more to maintain current stalemate.. 

"Milley says: there will be no military victory."

 

 

This is a very good clip, in that it encapsulates the current dilemma. Americans support the war BUT what are the goals of this administration?

 

They obviously don’t know and certainly are not making it clear to Americans.

 

that’s a problem for the war effort.

[Luke]

17 minutes ago, UK said:

But Luca, let me ask, is US/NATO/EU sphere of influence for you is the same as Russia's/China's?

I'd say that looking at the last 80 years, NATO and the US have been doing more aggressive military moves/funding/interventions than China and Russia and that sets things well into perspective. "Do as we command, not as we did"!

17 minutes ago, UK said:

I already asked on this thread: name me one country witch made substantial progress for the better under Russia's influence In the last 20 or 30 years? I can name you a few which didn't and many, witch prospered under NATO/EU.

That doesn't matter for this discussion and doesn't justify anything, if you take china, they did one of the greatest wealth creations on earth

17 minutes ago, UK said:

Accidentally, one of them is former German Democratic Republic. Or it was also mistake, hypocrisy and it supposed to be left for Russia, or at least out of NATO, as WAS promised before unification? 

Germany had a flourishing scientific and industrial base before WW2, we had growth pretty much all over Europe so that is not something unique what happened in Germany but rather the European industrial machine that started with the industrial revolution in England IMO. 

17 minutes ago, UK said:

It is not foregone conclusion, but Ukraine (maybe not all) has a decent chance to became a similarly normal country, maybe not as cool as former eastern Germany, but way way better then it was or Russia is today. Which would be a huge plus for EU/NATO and of course this is what scares Putin most: truly successful Slavic country right next door. 

Yes, Ukraine could have done many things and some of them might have happened if there wouldn't have been continued expansion and tingling by the west with Ukraine. 

17 minutes ago, UK said:

So again: what US/NATO/EU would mean for Ukraine and what Putin can offer? This is why most people of Ukraine supported this whole bloody struggle from its beginning in 2013.

Putin doesnt offer much and its completely understandable that they want to join NATO and all the rest BUT the neighbor is not accepting that, same as the US wouldnt accept chinese/russian missiles and mexico joining foreign military alliances. 

 

Now Putin would rather destroy Ukraine so that there is nothing left to join anything anymore and set a statement, which is obviously monstrous and vicious. The west started to happily join fighting against Russians, throwing more and more coal into the fire, sending more and more heavy weapons and joining the 0 negotiation with russia clause that the selensky administration set. 

 

The dying will continue until Ukraine is bombed to nothing and most men are dead, easily thinkable Putin will use some smaller nuclear bombs if he is pushed enough into a corner. 

[Luke]

1 hour ago, cubsfan said:

John - don’t get me wrong. The US support for the actions against Russia in Ukraine is very strong in this country. But, concurrently, you have the worst border crisis is history happening. It’s getting worse every month. 
 

So you have 100,000 Americans per year dying of fentanyl poisoning. Every year . Shit, we only lost 5 or 6,000 in Afghanistan and Iraq combined over 20 years!  The Mexican cartels are killing Americans as they flood the country with fentanyl. Not to mention widespread child & human trafficking. The southern border is a catastrophe.

 

Americans are finally catching on, and support for an administration that spends hundreds of billions to protect another country’s borders, but nothing to protect US borders is causing support for Ukraine to fail.

 

it’s a real danger to the cause - so don’t shoot the messenger.

 

in the end, the US has weak, corrupt and terrible leadership. Everyone knows that Biden is corrupt to Ukraine - payoffs & bribes. Biden & son took his bribes way back in 2015, but did nothing to protect Ukraine back then.

Yeah, sums up pretty much the state of the west. Inflation hit the middle class severely, they have been neglected for too long, average white middle class citizen is angry and disappointed and sees his taxed dollar thrown out the house for some weird foreign military projects, real needs are not looked after by the parties etc.