Parsad Posted March 3 Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Gregmal said: Sure. But one thing has been made crystal clear and this is that these stupid liberals are good for nothing other than predictably just opposing absolutely anything Trump says or does. You could have a resolution curing cancer on the floor and these pieces of shit would find some procedural technicality as their excuse to have the whole party minus John Fetterman vote against it. Yeah, about John...let's not assume this is a guy who is wholly there...mentally, physically or in any other way! Cheers!
Parsad Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, dwy000 said: Its a turn of phrase here. But fair enough. They would probably sell their soul before supporting anything Biden did. Hmmm, Biden was a fucking mess! Not so much him directly, but the whole Hunter crap...no different than Don Jr. et al...and the fact that he was clearly too old and becoming incapable. It would have been a 2nd term shitshow. Cheers!
LC Posted March 3 Posted March 3 3 hours ago, Gregmal said: You could have a resolution curing cancer on the floor and these pieces of shit would find some procedural technicality as their excuse to have the whole party minus John Fetterman vote against it. Are these the same congressmen that voted against their own border patrol bill? Or is this the same cancer foundation that Trump and his kids embezzled funds from? These goons are all the same, just different color ties.
dealraker Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Things will get interesting for Trump if and when the stock market quits going up. His success, the economy, all things are fueled by the ascent of Mr. Market these days. What percentage of Americans live each day based on their investment account totals? I don't know that. What we do know is that this is a big part of how we feel and what we, those with the $, spend. I loved Jon Stewart's tidbit on Trump where he shows Trump saying, "People say I'll get bored, that I'll leave Iran when this happens - but it won't happen, we'll stay until..." And immediately Trump goes off on a ballroom and "I love gold things" tangent. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-brags-gold-curtains-americans-die-iran-war-1235523798/
73 Reds Posted March 3 Posted March 3 12 hours ago, John Hjorth said: Please leave Mikes [ @cubsfans ] and @73 Redss children out this. It's an escalation in this topic, certainly not needed for, by any rational thinking human being here on CofB&F. John, he's no longer worth reading, let alone replying to in this thread.
73 Reds Posted March 3 Posted March 3 13 hours ago, SharperDingaan said: Iran was never going to be a 'quick fix'; most would have expected resolution via another coalition Gulf War. When even the usual coalition partners are noticeably absent, and limiting participation (Diego Garcia) .... it's very telling. It's only 3 days in, and everyone is optimistic; unlikely to remain the same after the SOH has been closed for a week, and more oil infrastructure has gone up in flames. While the rise in oil prices is being 'managed', higher prices are just a matter of time. It would seem that it isn't going as planned ... timelines are now being dropped, and troops on the ground proposed. The other reality is that pipelines and facilities cannot be realistically protected from anonymous ground attack. Simple thing to blow pipelines and drop explosives via drone, and there are lots of radicalised warriors .... Ukraine does it every day. There's always a short honeymoon after a major strike ... then reality starts catching up. All that expensive ordinance raining down like water, and high-tech planes burning their operational hours .... is this thing only supposed to last 4-5 weeks, 'cause after that it's used up ??? and a good chunk of the air fleet is now out of service ?? SD You're right - it's not going according to plan, actually better. The simple fact of the matter is the World is better off eliminating Iran's regime and the immediate threat of WMDs. All arguments against reflect personal issues, nothing more. The only chance there is to transform the World order is peace through strength.
Parsad Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Brits are not only going after Andrew...they've taken the hammer to Fergie and the daughters. While here in Lalaland, Trump bombs away on Iran so he can hide from the Trump-Epstein Files! Good job Kash...asslicker! Cheers! Princesses Beatrice, Eugenie banned from royal events for 'foreseeable future'
DooDiligence Posted March 3 Posted March 3 WASHINGTON—While recognizing the small detail was of no real significance in the greater scheme of an escalating war with Iran, the entire U.S. populace admitted Tuesday that it was still curious to hear how President Donald Trump would pronounce “Strait of Hormuz.” “He’s gonna have to say it out loud eventually, and it feels like he could take it in some kind of insane direction like HOOR-muzz or maybe horm-SUH,” said Arkansas resident Janet Flitchen, echoing the sentiment of 340 million Americans who agreed that discovering Trump’s idiosyncratic pronunciation of the sea passage’s name would at least add a bit of intrigue to the horrors currently unfolding in the Middle East. “It feels crude to call it a silver lining given how many people are going to die, but you can’t deny that it’s fascinating to see what that guy’s brain does with unfamiliar place names. Even ‘Strait’ feels like it could be up in the air with him. There’s a nonzero chance he goes the whole war calling it the ‘stry-EET of Hermes’ or possibly even ‘Homer’s Street.’ That’s before you even get into the extra syllables he might try to cram in there. Doesn’t mean I support what he’s doing, but I can’t act like I’m not interested in hearing him drop ‘Strant of Hormo’ or whatever at a press conference.” At press time, the nation was reportedly expressing bewilderment at Trump’s bizarre pronunciation of the word “soldier.”
LC Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: immediate threat of WMDs Iran had WMDs? I thought we obliterated those months ago?
LC Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: The only chance there is to transform the World order is peace through strength. Be honest and call it peace through violence. Either way, it sounds eerily similar to freedom through work.
Gregmal Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 17 minutes ago, LC said: Be honest and call it peace through violence. Either way, it sounds eerily similar to freedom through work. For sure, although the “use bloodlust post 9/11 as a means to oil riches” was one of the greater sleight of hands ever. That said, why are so many such brainwashed slaves to ideology? And it’s not even the kind of creative or sophisticated ideology either? Like when we invest people boast about things like “when the facts change….” Or often they follow situations where there’s valid permutations that require specific and different approaches. Then we get to politics and something like a generational shot to take out Maduro comes along, or Iran appears to be at its most vulnerable point in our lifetimes….and these idiots like circus parrots just resort to the hand fed rhetoric like “what happened to America first” lol. Like why are they so stupid when it comes to understanding logic and situational opportunity? Its even worse and more on display when these people show off their retardation when discussing things like “negotiations” as things like “lying” or “chickening out”, or how they expect personalized briefings on top secret security matters….like why are they so proud to be so stupid all in the name of the loyalty to “the party”, even when it means the abandonment of things they otherwise hold in high regard, such as independent thinking? The fact that it was even acknowledged that one party should and is completely valid in opposing a theoretical cure to cancer “just because it’s politics” shows the total level of brain rot and abandonment of any rationality amongst the masses. Edited March 3 by Gregmal
cubsfan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, Xerxes said: The Assembly of Experts may have had its last meeting … Simply amazing. Some people never learn.
changegonnacome Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Noticed a deliberate scaling back of strategic aims yesterday as Rubio et al got up on their hind legs on TV. As reported Trump spent much of last week shouting at his generals in the WH that he needed "a fucking win" in Iran......a Trump win and military/strategic win are two very different things however. I've always characterized Trump as the PR President - he is a showman, a reality television producer. Luckily for the American people and those who fear another forever war I think Trump has got his PR headline win with the death of Khomeini - the Iran PR circus has its tent pole.......if he's smart (and he is certainly is so in PR matters) he'll take out some more headline Iranian targets in coming days/couple of weeks enough to shut Bibi up for the rest of HIS time in office and then pack up shop. Everyday with the Iranian war in the headlines the midterms become an impossible rubix cube for the GOP to solve. Trump has got his 'win' - those with only a passing knowledge of Iran will consider Khomeini's death analogues to the regimes death.....in short Trump right now has something to sell to the median voter......its the "fucking win" he dreamed about and he'll be smart enough to take the off ramp.
backtothebeach Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) "In “Nobody’s Girl: A Memoir of Surviving Abuse and Fighting for Justice”, Giuffre — the woman at the centre of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal — said she had sex with Andrew on three separate occasions including when she was under 18." People have today's old age Prince Andrew in mind, but in 2001 he was a 37 year old rich royal with some appeal I suppose. AFAIK she does not claim coercion or rape. Anyway, she was 17 at least one time they had s*x, so it may have been against the law, depending on jurisdiction. He avoided this going to trial with a multi-million $ settlement. Frankly I don't have much sympathy for they guy, maybe some worse shit went down during that time, and if it can be proven he should go to jail. But I do find the moral outrage a bit funny. I mean half the porn online is something like "I fcked my 18yo stepsister", not like anyone posting in this thread would ever watch such a thing, lol! Edited March 3 by backtothebeach
adesigar Posted March 3 Posted March 3 25 minutes ago, LC said: Iran had WMDs? I thought we obliterated those months ago? Still looking for the elusive WMDs in Iraq. The must have relocated to Iran. They seem to conveniently move to wherever an excuse is needed for bombing and then disappear.
Gregmal Posted March 3 Posted March 3 1 minute ago, backtothebeach said: "In “Nobody’s Girl: A Memoir of Surviving Abuse and Fighting for Justice”, Giuffre — the woman at the centre of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal — said she had sex with Andrew on three separate occasions including when she was under 18." People have today's old age Prince Andrew in mind, but in 2001 he was a 37 year old rich royal with some appeal I suppose. AFAIK she does not claim coercion or rape. Anyway, she was 17 at least one time they has s*x, so it may have been against the law, depending on jurisdiction. He avoided this going to trial with a multi-million $ settlement. Frankly I don't have much sympathy for they guy, maybe some worse shit went down during that time, and if it can be proven he should go to jail. But I do find the moral outrage a bit funny. I mean half the porn online is something like "I fcked my 18yo stepsister", not like anyone posting in this thread would ever watch such a thing, lol! Theyre doing it for the victims* *as of 2/1/2025
dealraker Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Times have changed. While doing yoga this morning I had CNBC on. Joe Kernen and Republican rep Shelley Capito were deeply affected both by their own concerns and the concerns Trump has for the Iranian people, that Americans giving up their lives for those in Iran was really heart warming.
73 Reds Posted March 3 Posted March 3 11 minutes ago, dealraker said: Times have changed. While doing yoga this morning I had CNBC on. Joe Kernen and Republican rep Shelley Capito were deeply affected both by their own concerns and the concerns Trump has for the Iranian people, that Americans giving up their lives for those in Iran was really heart warming. Sure, and when the same approach doesn't work for 47 years why not just keep on doing it?
Castanza Posted March 3 Posted March 3 22 minutes ago, adesigar said: Still looking for the elusive WMDs in Iraq. The must have relocated to Iran. They seem to conveniently move to wherever an excuse is needed for bombing and then disappear. WMD = Iranian Leadership Are people incapable of viewing events on their own? As mentioned earlier in this thread...I don't support Trump...I'm not a fan of prolonged conflict...But I don't think there is anyone who can honestly say the death of the Iranian Regime was a net negative...The people seemed hungry for change with hope of democracy...time will tell... Trump may not be your guy and you may think he is doing more harm long term to the American and NATO global standing (I tend to agree)...but one things remains true is that global influence of dictatorial regimes has and is growing rapidly and America cannot stand still. Too many people think wishing away the problems that exist in the real world will work simply because there is no perfect leader and no perfect solution. At some point you'll end up between a rock and a hard place. My hope is we can salvage American ideals and find some cohesion on the home front while causing enough disruption globally to adversaries (China) to provide America some path back to positive status among allies by the time Trump leaves office. Trump is the absolute worst guy for the job in almost all aspects of POTUS, but maybe and just maybe he can get a few things right that others cannot. Sometimes it's hard to know the right choice in the moment.
Libs Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) I'm looking forward to the mea culpas from Hegseth's many critics. The man was slandered and ridiculed by the left. Drunkard; womanizer; frat boy; Fox personality. etc. Meanwhile, our military has shown phenomenal execution; and recruitment has skyrocketed, reversing a long decline. The man deserves a lot of credit. Edited March 3 by Libs
Gregmal Posted March 3 Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Libs said: I'm looking forward to the mea culpas from Hegseth's many critics. The man was slandered and ridiculed by the left. Drunkard; womanizer; frat boy; Fox personality. etc. Meanwhile, our military has shown phenomenal execution; and recruitment has skyrocketed, reversing a long decline. The man deserves a lot of credit. They hate him because he isn’t the docile, feminine, non binary leader “they” desire. And thank god he ain’t.
cubsfan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, Libs said: I'm looking forward to the mea culpas from Hegseth's many critics. The man was slandered and ridiculed by the left. Drunkard; womanizer; frat boy; Fox personality. etc. Meanwhile, our military has shown phenomenal execution; and recruitment has skyrocketed, reversing a long decline. The man deserves a lot of credit. For sure, like many of Trump's cabinet picks - Hegseth has been terrific. Mark Milley & Lloyd Austin did their duty wrecking the military.
SharperDingaan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 2 hours ago, 73 Reds said: You're right - it's not going according to plan, actually better. The simple fact of the matter is the World is better off eliminating Iran's regime and the immediate threat of WMDs. All arguments against reflect personal issues, nothing more. The only chance there is to transform the World order is peace through strength. Today's 8% rise in the price of WTI says otherwise Even if processing facilities could be quickly brought back on line, there's limited/no egress with tankers blocked at the SOH; life is good! No disputing that the Iranian regime has to go, but it's done via coalition (GW I, GW II) ... not renegades doing their own thing. It goes wrong ... and Americans abroad, become a target for fanatics near everywhere. Not much freedom when you are already branded an 'ugly american', and cannot leave the homeland compound gates without threat of an incident. Everybody tarred with the same brush. Support the troops; but see the world as it is, not how you would like it to be. The US is not making any friends, allies are backing away, and this will be an ugly bar fight. The US/Israel may be big and strong; but they are only two, and there are many more of 'them' ... eventually the US/Israel drowns atop a heap of skulls. Another Vietnam. SD
John Hjorth Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xerxes said: The Assembly of Experts may have had its last meeting … -Just appoint a new one! [A lot of people are by now for sure scared sh*tless!] Edited March 3 by John Hjorth
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