RichardGibbons Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 Could be a good slogan: LPC -- flipping cars into ditches since 2015! I wish we had a party I could vote for that knew how to drive....
Sweet Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 10 hours ago, John Hjorth said: Mark Carney visiting France today. That's absolute unheard of, Canadas newly elected premier minister not visiting USA as the first thing. Visiting the whitehouse and risking a public dress down in front of the media is hardly appealing. Plus you will likely hear your counterpart say lots of untrue things. I suspect that many simply will keep dealings to a minimum.
Sweet Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 I’ve gotta laugh at all these ‘tech reviewer’ bros coming out and shitting on Tesla recently. Tesla’s self driving, product delivery, and CEOs claims have been questionable for years. Yet Elon goes MAGA and suddenly these guys find religion? Yeh, sure, the timing is just a coincidence.
Spekulatius Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 2 hours ago, Sweet said: I’ve gotta laugh at all these ‘tech reviewer’ bros coming out and shitting on Tesla recently. Tesla’s self driving, product delivery, and CEOs claims have been questionable for years. Yet Elon goes MAGA and suddenly these guys find religion? Yeh, sure, the timing is just a coincidence. Most of those tech reviewers are just social influencers . If you see it under this framework, it makes total sense what they are doing.
Spooky Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 Let's all dial down the political arguments and get back on topic. No one is at war and both Canada and the US need to dial down the nationalistic rhetoric. Modern capitalism as an interconnected system in which economic development relies on interdependence among nations. There is no winner in a trade war and no chance that Canada can win against the US which is economically much larger.
John Hjorth Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 I listened to the last YouTube video by Anders Puck Nielsen today, and got guided to this Youtube video by Vlad Vexler : YouTube : Vlad Vexler [March 15th 2025] : The Real Reason Trump Submits to Putin Warning : Pretty creepy stuff, if one asks me. Disclosure : I'm not a shrink.
rogermunibond Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 Fentanyl and immigration are needed for the tariff because the Admin used a "state of emergency" declaration to allow the President powers to throw out trade deals etc. The WSJ editorial board pointed out that this could be challenged in Congress but the party in control will not do so. The one lesson for me is that the "executive power" within the office of the President is too great.
Spekulatius Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 8 minutes ago, rogermunibond said: Fentanyl and immigration are needed for the tariff because the Admin used a "state of emergency" declaration to allow the President powers to throw out trade deals etc. The WSJ editorial board pointed out that this could be challenged in Congress but the party in control will not do so. The one lesson for me is that the "executive power" within the office of the President is too great. Yes, that is correct. It is also clear that the emergency power is now more and more abused and it didn’t start with Trump. I think we have more than 40 emergency power edicts in place compared with 2 during WW2 and one during the Korean War. They seem to be a way to eliminate checks and balances and undermine the spirit of the constitution.
james22 Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 11 hours ago, Spekulatius said: I think at this point, the MAGA economics just need to play out. Either the tariffs work or they do not . . . +1
Ghost Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 (edited) Since there was some Canadian posts earlier. Canada's new PM (Mark Carney): Graduate from Harvard and Oxford, worked at Goldman Sachs and Governor of the banks of Canada and England. vs. The opposition guy (Pierre Poilievre) : Career politician. And supports of the right...think Pierre is the right choice? How does that work exactly? Cheers Edited March 18, 2025 by Ghost
Xerxes Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 14 minutes ago, Ghost said: Since there was some Canadian posts earlier. Canada's new PM (Mark Carney): Graduate from Harvard and Oxford, worked at Goldman Sachs and Governor of the banks of Canada and England. vs. The opposition guy (Pierre Poilievre) : Career politician. And supports of the right...think Pierre is the right choice? How does that work exactly? Cheers I will go any day with someone who is not a career politician. Is Marc Carney a globalist. Sure he is. In Canada we don’t a luxury to be isolationist. And I prefer that than Pierre who is the mirror image of Trudeau but on the other side. Poilievre tried to model himself after Trump. His brand and marketing pitch took a beating when Trump after Canada. If Doug Ford ever runs for federal Conservative Party that could be interesting. But for now I certainly don’t need a divisive leader like Pierre P. who is going to hug U.S. even after being shown the middle finger.
cubsfan Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 13 hours ago, RichardGibbons said: Cubs, this is one that we really deserve sympathy for. I remember a couple months ago, you incorrectly wanted to give Trump credit for Trudeau's resignation, but now there is a big change in Canadian politics for which I think Trump deserves the credit. For over a year, the Conservative party was on track to win possibly the biggest majority in history, and the Liberal party had a chance of not even being a top-3 party. In the last couple of months, that's reversed, and it now looks like the Liberals are about to win an election in the next few months. It's the fastest shift in Canadian polls that I've ever seen. So, think this is the one Canadians really deserve you sympathy for, and Trump deserves credit for. Vote for anyone you like. If you want another left wing loon - that's your choice!
cwericb Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 2 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Vote for anyone you like. If you want another left wing loon - that's your choice! Hmmm. If you think a graduate from Harvard and Oxford and a former head of the Bank of Canada AND Bank of England as well as a senior exec with Brookfield (BAM) is a "left wing loon", man, it tends to show how far to the extreme right you are.
cubsfan Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cwericb said: Hmmm. If you think a graduate from Harvard and Oxford and a former head of the Bank of Canada AND Bank of England as well as a senior exec with Brookfield (BAM) is a "left wing loon", man, it tends to show how far to the extreme right you are. He's the perfect Party of Davos globalist - have at it already! You can have Obama too! Edited March 18, 2025 by cubsfan
cwericb Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 15 minutes ago, cubsfan said: He's the perfect Party of Davos globalist - have at it already! You can have Obama too! Yup Cubs, Y'all wouldn't want a smart guy running your country now would you?
cubsfan Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 3 minutes ago, cwericb said: Yup Cubs, Y'all wouldn't want a smart guy running your country now would you? Guys - elect whoever you want. Just pay your damn NATO bill already.
Spekulatius Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 Trading more with the EU send such a natural fit for Canada. The EU needs Canada’s energy, resources, Aluminum, Nickel and other resources like rare earth. I am pretty sure a trade association with the EU will be easier to do than with tariff trigger happy Trump. It can’t replace the US bound trade but reduce the dependency over time. If you have a long way to go, you better start moving ASAP.
cwericb Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 12 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Guys - elect whoever you want. Just pay your damn NATO bill already. Come on Cubs. You know why the US wants more money spent on NATO. It is simply the fact that the US knows that much of that "NATO money" is going to go to US arms manufacturers which in turn, keeps Americans employed and puts more money into US coffers through taxes AND tariffs. So then, when the US spends money of F-35's or whatever, the US government gets much of that money back in taxes paid by defence contractors and their employees. But the US still gets to say oh, we spent all this money for NATO on these F-35's or whatever.
cwericb Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 21 minutes ago, Spekulatius said: Trading more with the EU send such a natural fit for Canada. The EU needs Canada’s energy, resources, Aluminum, Nickel and other resources like rare earth. I am pretty sure a trade association with the EU will be easier to do than with tariff trigger happy Trump. It can’t replace the US bound trade but reduce the dependency over time. If you have a long way to go, you better start moving ASAP. Yup. And after getting stabbed in the back by our long time friends, it may well be a looong time before the US gets their biggest customer back. Talk about short sighted. Trump and his cronies are supposed to be smart businessmen. What businessmen threatens and insults their best customer?
TwoCitiesCapital Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 1 minute ago, cwericb said: Yup. And after getting stabbed in the back by our long time friends, it may well be a looong time before the US gets their biggest customer back. Talk about short sighted. Trump and his cronies are supposed to be smart businessmen. What businessmen threatens and insults their best customer? Ones who's most successful business venture was selling the lie that they were good at business instead of actually being good at business
John Hjorth Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 2 minutes ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: Ones who's most successful business venture was selling the lie that they were good at business instead of actually being good at business Very good humor on a very serious day! - Sold as 10% preferred new capital while having no real earnings!
cubsfan Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 13 minutes ago, cwericb said: Come on Cubs. You know why the US wants more money spent on NATO. It is simply the fact that the US knows that much of that "NATO money" is going to go to US arms manufacturers which in turn, keeps Americans employed and puts more money into US coffers through taxes AND tariffs. So then, when the US spends money of F-35's or whatever, the US government gets much of that money back in taxes paid by defence contractors and their employees. But the US still gets to say oh, we spent all this money for NATO on these F-35's or whatever. Another brilliant dodge. Whine all day about Tariffs and the big bad Orange Man. Duck your defense promises and fuck over NATO and your allies. "Don't worry, the US will handle it - we get a free ride again" Must be a Canadian thing..
cwericb Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 2 minutes ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: Ones who's most successful business venture was selling the lie that they were good at business instead of actually being good at business You mean the one who brags about being a self made billionaire, who inherited $700 million in New York real estate from his daddy 40 years ago. The same guy that has had six or seven bankruptcies where he screwed numerous suppliers and contractors. Do you mean that guy?
Spekulatius Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 11 minutes ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: Ones who's most successful business venture was selling the lie that they were good at business instead of actually being good at business I think his biggest business success was Truth social and selling crypto Trump coin to his fan base.
cwericb Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 2 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Another brilliant dodge. Whine all day about Tariffs and the big bad Orange Man. Duck your defense promises and fuck over NATO and your allies. "Don't worry, the US will handle it - we get a free ride again" Must be a Canadian thing.. Another brilliant dodge. Dodge? What wasn't true in what I said? By the way, never mind NATO, ever hear of NORAD Cubs? And just to set things straight, many of us Canadians are not happy with how our previous governments have handled our defence programs, just as I strongly suspect there may be a few Obama decisions you were not happy with.
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