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[whiskybravo]

1 hour ago, Spekulatius said:

Impeaching judges, right of the dictators handbook.

 

Yea, if they didn’t have a majority, they’d probably be talking about packing the Supreme Court.

[cubsfan]

13 hours ago, vinod1 said:

Canada is playing this all wrong, it should

 

1. Send out an RFP for SAM 400 from Russia

2. Send out an RFP for Chengdu J-20 from China

 

 

 

That's a great idea - but they'd stiff the Russians and Chinese, just like NATO !

 

That's one hell of an Allie.

[dwy000]

1 hour ago, John Hjorth said:

 

 

This!  Exactly this. Correction: I reposted @dealrakerbut that post is now gone. 

 

The best description i heard for his support is "he pisses off the people who piss me off".  It makes for a great opposition party but is the basis for terrible leadership.  And of course once you show support you can no longer think independently without looking foolish for your previous support so you just go deeper into the cult.

 

Sean Hannity made his career as an opinion person criticizing both parties and making common sense appeal.  Then he went deep on Trump and lost the ability to make independent criticism without alienating the audience he took with him.  So now he doesn't do opinion, he just parrots the party line even though most of the things are exactly what he would have ambushed years ago.  Too deep to get out.   That's cubs too.

Edited March 19, 2025 by dwy000

[John Hjorth]

Thank you, Charlie [ @dealraker ],

 

I got it! [, -before it disappeared again! ..] 

[cubsfan]

It seems the mere chance of peace in Ukraine has you guys all up in arms.

 

What a shame. Keep that killing going and snuff the best chance you have for peace because you hate Trump.

 

Moreover, you're losing the war in the USA, as the only alternative, the Democratic Party continues to implode by the day. 

 

It's really quite fun to watch the hatred you have for half the country. Keep the resistance and psychoanalysis going - it's very entertaining.

[Sweet]

5 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

It seems the mere chance of peace in Ukraine has you guys all up in arms.

 

What a shame. Keep that killing going and snuff the best chance you have for peace because you hate Trump.

 

Moreover, you're losing the war in the USA, as the only alternative, the Democratic Party continues to implode by the day. 

 

It's really quite fun to watch the hatred you have for half the country. 

I read the most recent comments, nobody said anything like that.

[Ghost]

15 hours ago, Sweet said:

Yeh that’s a good question.  Differs from one person to another, and from country to country.

 

Western Conservatism generally is smaller government, emphasis on self-reliance, family orientated, law and order and from that you get liberty, market oriented economy, strong national defence.

 

I believe it should explicitly acknowledge our unique culture and history, the bad and the good, and seeks to preserve that.

 

I think conservatism should always acknowledge truths, even if they are uncomfortable.  Reject radicalism, understand that policies are trade offs between what’s practically and ideology.

 

Lots more to the discussion, don’t want to get into it really.  Would need a policy by policy breakdown to highlight differences

It was the last line that really stood out. "...Would need a policy by policy breakdown to highlight differences".  

 

Calling oneself a conservative today, may not align with what current conservative politicians are pushing and that goes for many left parties as well. 

Much better to have an opinion on policy and pick which party aligns with one's beliefs.   It is time to evaluate WHAT politicians do...not what politicians say they do. 

 

I am not sure which country you are in Sweet...but in Canada, the last time the Federal budget was balanced was under a Liberal government...(I know shocking)

 

There are things I agree and disagree with Mr. Trump...one I do agree with taking a sledge hammer to the Federal government is the only way to get things done, a scalpel takes too long.   

 

[cwericb]

50 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

That's a great idea - but they'd stiff the Russians and Chinese, just like NATO !

 

That's one hell of an Allie.

 

Canada has stiffed no one. You're just pissed because Canada hasn't spent enough money in the US buying American made weapons.

 

And right now we are purchasing $13B worth of F-35's but now we are reconsidering purchasing more given Trump's attitude towards Canada. Why would we buy weapons from a country that has threatened to annex us? No other country including China and Russia have threatened Canada, only the 'great' USofA.

[Sweet]

13 minutes ago, Ghost said:

It was the last line that really stood out. "...Would need a policy by policy breakdown to highlight differences".  

 

Calling oneself a conservative today, may not align with what current conservative politicians are pushing and that goes for many left parties as well. 

Much better to have an opinion on policy and pick which party aligns with one's beliefs.   It is time to evaluate WHAT politicians do...not what politicians say they do. 

 

I am not sure which country you are in Sweet...but in Canada, the last time the Federal budget was balanced was under a Liberal government...(I know shocking)

 

There are things I agree and disagree with Mr. Trump...one I do agree with taking a sledge hammer to the Federal government is the only way to get things done, a scalpel takes too long.   

 

Are you sure the budget wasn’t balanced last under Stephen Harper?

 

So far as I can tell it was in 2014.

 

More importantly, Stephen Harper wears a wig, right?  Always wondered.

 

From the UK btw.

[CGJB]

Most of these comments are all dumping on Trump. That virtually all of those on here doing so never dumped on Biden is telling.

John Mearsheimer might get some things wrong, but he was right on the big picture years ago -- Ukraine was being led down the primrose path. And the western "intellectuals" and "strategists" who have been gung ho to use the Ukrainians as a battering ram to weaken Russia have egg all over their faces but will pay no price. But hundreds of thousands of people, Russian and Ukrainian, are dead and countless more have had their lives ruined.

Hate to break it to you -- but Trump isn't responsible for that.

Maybe take some of the anger you have for Trump and direct it at the western elites who deserve it.

[John Hjorth]

Mike [ @cubsfan ] and @CGJB,

 

POTUSs actions related to trying to stop the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine are by principle noble, and should naturally basically be considered in good faith.

 

He is after yesterday really in trouble here, alone because he has not followed the usual playbook for such agenda.

 

And he is one huge contradiction about it, because he really won't have anything to do with it financially, and then simultaneously he want to be in control over the process and the agenda for it.

 

Please stop all this Biden blaiming here, the fault for it has come so far, is not Biden, - It's the fault the European countries not already directly involved in the conflict.

Edited March 19, 2025 by John Hjorth

[Gregmal]

29 minutes ago, CGJB said:

Most of these comments are all dumping on Trump. That virtually all of those on here doing so never dumped on Biden is telling

Exactly. They supported war, even took amusement in its gossip and speculation; a game for the haves to play. Their outspokenness now only

validates that their precious silence was a show of support for the previous regime. The MO now is just to undermine progress and kick the can down the road trying to run out the clock so we can get back to good ole business as usual.

[james22]

Sadly, Trump is right on Ukraine

 

I rarely agree with President Trump, but his latest controversial statements about Ukraine are mostly true. They only seem preposterous because western audiences have been fed a steady diet of disinformation about Ukraine for more than a decade. 

 

It is time to set the record straight on three key points that illuminate why Ukrainians and former President Joe Biden — not merely Russian President Vladimir Putin — bear significant responsibility for the outbreak and perpetuation of war in Ukraine.

 

First, as recently documented by overwhelming forensic evidence, and affirmed even by a Kyiv court, it was Ukrainian right-wing militants who started the violence in 2014 that provoked Russia’s initial invasion of the country’s southeast including Crimea.  . . .

 

Second, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky contributed to a wider war by violating peace deals with Russia [known as Minsk 1 and 2] and seeking NATO military aid and membership.  . . .

 

Third, Joe Biden too contributed crucially to the escalation and perpetuation of fighting.  . . .

 

Biden raised false hopes in Ukraine, needlessly perpetuating a war that has killed or wounded hundreds of thousands in the last two years alone during which the frontlines have shifted by less than 1 percent of Ukraine’s territory. . . .

 

Even more tragic, whatever peace deal emerges after the war will be worse for Ukraine than the Minsk accords that Zelensky foolishly abandoned due to his political ambitions and naïve expectation of bottomless U.S. support.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/

[Xerxes]

1 hour ago, John Hjorth said:

Thank you, Charlie [ @dealraker ],

 

I got it! [, -before it disappeared again! ..] 

I think @dealraker doesn’t know that someone else (Snapchat) already came up with the idea of “disappearing message/pictures”

 

I missing half of his posts i think 

[Ulti]

39 minutes ago, CGJB said:

Most of these comments are all dumping on Trump. That virtually all of those on here doing so never dumped on Biden is telling.

John Mearsheimer might get some things wrong, but he was right on the big picture years ago -- Ukraine was being led down the primrose path. And the western "intellectuals" and "strategists" who have been gung ho to use the Ukrainians as a battering ram to weaken Russia have egg all over their faces but will pay no price. But hundreds of thousands of people, Russian and Ukrainian, are dead and countless more have had their lives ruined.

Hate to break it to you -- but Trump isn't responsible for that.

Maybe take some of the anger you have for Trump and direct it at the western elites who deserve it.

Again , I have a great distain for both political parties… corruption and greed knows no political affiliation, it affects them all… That’s why checks and balances in the democratic system are so important… However, to be fair,

let’s look at Trump 1st … There is some history there with Putin and Zel.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia-ukraine-fbi-mueller-ff6d60923de68632f2671e275083b54b

[cubsfan]

17 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

Please stop all this Biden blaiming here, the fault for it has come so far, is not Biden, - It's the fault the European countries not already directly involved in the conflict.

 

John - you have a very short memory. Biden could have easily sued for peace, but chose not too.

Like the Europeans - he wanted war, war, war.

 

But in your case, we're making progress - as you acknowledge the Trump attempting to bring peace is a good thing. Well done!

[John Hjorth]

Good news today - reads as White House like quarrels have been avoided :

 

Edited March 19, 2025 by John Hjorth

[Xerxes]

It seems to me that prior to Ronald Regan’ flavour of the reformed Republican Party, almost all conflicts that U.S. got involved in; had the Democratic Party as its main proponent. 
 

It was Woodrow Wilson and FDR with the world wars (both Democrats). I could say (in selfishness) that was the right call. 

It was Harry Truman that got US involved in the Korean War. It was LBJ and Kennedy before him that got involved in the Vietnam. All Democrats. 
 

Now it was Eisenhower who ended the Korean War. It was the corrupt Richard Nixon that ended Vietnam. Both republicans. 
 

So what we have in the last 40 years, under the Bush, and Regan was perhaps an exception and not the rule. And perhaps, we are back to pre-1980 era, where Republican end wars. 
 

The question would be if the cost is justified. I.e what you are giving up to close the dossier and turn the page. 

[Gregmal]

Democrats were also hugely in favor of slavery and founded many of the white nationalist orgs. The party has a 200 year history of supporting and enabling bigotry and violence. And when they’re confronted with this truth all they do is turn around and blame republicans. 

[Sweet]

48 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Exactly. They supported war, even took amusement in its gossip and speculation; a game for the haves to play. Their outspokenness now only

validates that their precious silence was a show of support for the previous regime. The MO now is just to undermine progress and kick the can down the road trying to run out the clock so we can get back to good ole business as usual.

 

What do you mean by ‘supported the war’ Greg?

 

I bet that nobody on this board supported Russian invasion of Ukraine.

 

By ‘supported war’ do you actually mean support Ukraine defending itself?

 

Those are two very different positions.

 

Who here is ‘undermining progress’?

 

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, cwericb said:

 

Canada has stiffed no one. You're just pissed because Canada hasn't spent enough money in the US buying American made weapons.

 

And right now we are purchasing $13B worth of F-35's but now we are reconsidering purchasing more given Trump's attitude towards Canada. Why would we buy weapons from a country that has threatened to annex us? No other country including China and Russia have threatened Canada, only the 'great' USofA.

 

Don't be pissed, but you sure should be embarrassed.  Freeloading is very embarrassing.

 

The Europeans and Ukrainians have taken note - thanks for nothing!

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, CGJB said:

 Ukraine was being led down the primrose path. And the western "intellectuals" and "strategists" who have been gung ho to use the Ukrainians as a battering ram to weaken Russia have egg all over their faces but will pay no price. But hundreds of thousands of people, Russian and Ukrainian, are dead and countless more have had their lives ruined.

 

Brilliant - but beware - the Party of Davos will hate you forever. They talk a big game - yet pay no price - andn they don't intended to.

[Sweet]

50 minutes ago, james22 said:

Sadly, Trump is right on Ukraine

 

I rarely agree with President Trump, but his latest controversial statements about Ukraine are mostly true. They only seem preposterous because western audiences have been fed a steady diet of disinformation about Ukraine for more than a decade. 

 

It is time to set the record straight on three key points that illuminate why Ukrainians and former President Joe Biden — not merely Russian President Vladimir Putin — bear significant responsibility for the outbreak and perpetuation of war in Ukraine.

 

First, as recently documented by overwhelming forensic evidence, and affirmed even by a Kyiv court, it was Ukrainian right-wing militants who started the violence in 2014 that provoked Russia’s initial invasion of the country’s southeast including Crimea.  . . .

 

Second, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky contributed to a wider war by violating peace deals with Russia [known as Minsk 1 and 2] and seeking NATO military aid and membership.  . . .

 

Third, Joe Biden too contributed crucially to the escalation and perpetuation of fighting.  . . .

 

Biden raised false hopes in Ukraine, needlessly perpetuating a war that has killed or wounded hundreds of thousands in the last two years alone during which the frontlines have shifted by less than 1 percent of Ukraine’s territory. . . .

 

Even more tragic, whatever peace deal emerges after the war will be worse for Ukraine than the Minsk accords that Zelensky foolishly abandoned due to his political ambitions and naïve expectation of bottomless U.S. support.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/5198022-ukraine-conflict-disinformation/

It’s getting very tiring debunking lies.

 

The first two points are lies through omitting important context.

 

Russia annexed Crimea, Russian separatists started a revolt in Eastern Ukraine, Ukraine tried to put that revolt down and Russian troops joined the fighting.  Why is that context omitted?

 

Minsk agreements did not prohibit Ukraine from seeking aid or seeking to join NATO.

 

The third about Biden is a matter of opinion.

 

And it takes about 5 mins to debunk this crap.

[John Hjorth]

39 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

John - you have a very short memory. Biden could have easily sued for peace, but chose not too.

Like the Europeans - he wanted war, war, war.

 

But in your case, we're making progress - as you acknowledge the Trump attempting to bring peace is a good thing. Well done!

 

Mike [ @cubsfan ],

 

I am today as an European citizen so embarrassed about how this whole mess has been handled from Europe since it started, in the first place. A total disaster, everyone was asleep. A total sweep of all Russian troops and hardware outside Russia should have been carried out in the first few weeks after it started. And it would actually have been quite easy to do from the air.

[cubsfan]

4 minutes ago, Sweet said:

It’s getting very tiring debunking lies.

 

The first two points are lies through omitting important context.

 

Russia annexed Crimea, Russian separatists started a revolt in Eastern Ukraine, Ukraine tried to put that revolt down and Russian troops joined the fighting.  Why is that context omitted?

 

Minsk agreements did not prohibit Ukraine from seeking aid or seeking to join NATO.

 

The third about Biden is a matter of opinion.

 

And it takes about 5 mins to debunk this crap.

 

Hey, just admit it.  

 

Europe and Ukraine fucked up big-time by pushing the NATO membership issue.

 

Putin called their bluff - and now, millions of lives destroyed and a country destroyed.

 

Not to worry - Trump will do his best to clean up your mess.

Edited March 19, 2025 by cubsfan