Sweet Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 26 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Okay. Then why have ICE at polling stations? It’s not about voting fraud or arresting illegal immigrants. Can we at least wait until ICE turns up to polling stations rather than arguing about Gavin Newsom talking points? ICE have not been at any polling stations.
Gregmal Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 7 minutes ago, dwy000 said: why he's polling at record lows. Ah! Saturday comfort food!
dwy000 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 6 minutes ago, Sweet said: Can we at least wait until ICE turns up to polling stations rather than arguing about Gavin Newsom talking points? ICE have not been at any polling stations. Completely agree. I think this started though from your question about why he would say that. But yup, that's a good point.
Sweet Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Completely agree. I think this started though from your question about why he would say that. But yup, that's a good point. Yeh I posted it because I couldn’t understand why he would say that. Took on a bit of a life of its own after that.
cubsfan Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 44 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Okay. Then why have ICE at polling stations? Its not about voting fraud or arresting illegal immigrants. ICE can go anywhere they like. They are a law enforcement agency. IF they think they will catch illegal immigrants at polling stations - they would be foolish not to go. Common sense.
73 Reds Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 3 minutes ago, cubsfan said: ICE can go anywhere they like. They are a law enforcement agency. IF they think they will catch illegal immigrants at polling stations - they would be foolish not to go. Common sense. Right. I hope ICE shows up at every polling station not requiring ID. That's what I voted for. More law enforcement, not less.
cubsfan Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 1 minute ago, Haryana said: https://www.news18.com/world/denied-mediation-in-india-pakistan-conflict-trump-slapped-50-tariffs-on-india-jefferies-ws-bl-9535933.html Denied Mediation In India-Pakistan Conflict, Trump Slapped 50% Tariffs On India: Jefferies US President Donald Trump has claimed several times that he helped in solving India-Pak conflict. However, these claims were never backed by Indian authorities. Now, American multinational investment bank and financial services company Jefferies claimed that US imposed tariffs on India because Trump was not allowed to mediate in the India-Pakistan conflict. Interesting. Who do you believe? Trump or Jefferies?
dwy000 Posted August 30, 2025 Posted August 30, 2025 12 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Interesting. Who do you believe? Trump or Jefferies? Jefferies. Not even close.
LC Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 Gotta love that special flavor of American irony of giving your rights away for free, then whining about big government. Show me those papers, punk!
Parsad Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 17 hours ago, Sweet said: It hasn’t happened in elections but I don’t see why it wouldn’t happen in red states or cities if it ever did. I also think if you are intimidated by ICE at polling stations you’ve lived a sheltered life. We aren't used to that type of behavior in Canada. When I go to Washington state, I still get intimidated and wary every time I see someone walking around with a gun because of open carry. I don't get that feeling anywhere in Canada. I don't get that feeling when I go to London. I don't get feeling when I go to Australia or New Zealand. We don't see people with guns at elections asking for ID. Yes, illegal immigration is a big problem in the U.S. I'm not sure guys with guns at elections is a real solution to that. Especially when there was no wide-spread fraud due to illegals. Cheers!
Parsad Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 9 hours ago, Sweet said: I live in the UK, I have to take ID with me everytime I vote and it’s normally my passport. Please pretending it’s a big ask. It's not a big ask...we do the same in Canada. But change the laws. Having armed men at election polls asking for ID is not the solution. Why the hell is it that every time it's a policy issue, MAGA says let's intimidate rather than change policy. Is it because it's easier and quicker and they don't actually want to go through what's required constitutionally? Cheers!
lnofeisone Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 9 hours ago, Gregmal said: Why is there ALWAYS some asinine rationale for taking idiotic stances like opposing cracking down on crime? Who says eventually they won’t go to other cities? End of the day, predictably once again, TDS is causing you to oppose fixing a common sense problem. I live in DC, and candidly, I'm appreciating the added police presence. I've seen a notable decrease in fake plate cars over the last four weeks. A-hole Maryland drivers have rediscovered blinkers and speed limits. However, it isn't an idiotic stance to have multiple hypotheses when this administration is so bad at communicating plans. If they come out and say "we will start with DC and then go to these states/cities" then people know what to expect. Absent of that, it's easy to start imagining crazy scenarios. It's exactly the same approach this administration has taken with federal workforce reduction. No plans and no thinking. Fire first, see what breaks, try to get those people rehired (with mixed success).
Sweet Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 4 hours ago, Parsad said: We aren't used to that type of behavior in Canada. When I go to Washington state, I still get intimidated and wary every time I see someone walking around with a gun because of open carry. I don't get that feeling anywhere in Canada. I don't get that feeling when I go to London. I don't get feeling when I go to Australia or New Zealand. We don't see people with guns at elections asking for ID. Yes, illegal immigration is a big problem in the U.S. I'm not sure guys with guns at elections is a real solution to that. Especially when there was no wide-spread fraud due to illegals. Cheers! That’s America though. I’m from the UK and certain parts of America and certain behaviours do sketch me out. Not so much the open carry guys though, people have do that often have to notify cops so they likely went through a process. It’s the sheer amount of guns in general.
Parsad Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 Yeah, how is this now working for Trumpie? Alienate Canada and Mexico. Alienate all of Europe pretty much. Piss off parts of South America. Force competitors to now form an Asian global alliance that could make the U.S. the next England. This is really going to strengthen trade, security and economic growth! Hey, but you still have Israel and on occasion Putin! Cheers! https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/30/china/chinas-xi-rolls-out-red-carpet-for-putin-modi-as-trump-upends-global-relations
John Hjorth Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 NRK - nrk.no [August 31st 2025] : Norwegian Government to buy frigats from Great Britain - - - o 0 o - - - Up to 5 frigates in all, from Britsh BAE, total price estimated to NOK 135 billion. -That's a lot of money for a country with 5.6 million citizens. But no sweat for Norway [flush in money], who by now is operating 4 frigates. The new ones will be equipped especially for detection and tracking of, and hunt on, submarines. So European NATO countries defense spending ramp-up continued.
73 Reds Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 9 hours ago, Parsad said: It's not a big ask...we do the same in Canada. But change the laws. Having armed men at election polls asking for ID is not the solution. Why the hell is it that every time it's a policy issue, MAGA says let's intimidate rather than change policy. Is it because it's easier and quicker and they don't actually want to go through what's required constitutionally? Cheers! Your characterization is wrong. ICE doing their job is not "intimidation". No legal citizen in the U.S. should be the least bit intimidated by ICE. Unlike Canada, the USA has a 2nd constitutional amendment. No one is asking any non-citizen whether they agree with it or feel comfortable. Likewise, no one needs the permission of non-citizens as to how to enforce our laws. You are correct that illegal immigration and open borders were a problem. More ICE is the direct consequence of past failures. Once these failures have ben corrected the need for ICE will hopefully be reduced.
73 Reds Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 1 hour ago, Parsad said: Yeah, how is this now working for Trumpie? Alienate Canada and Mexico. Alienate all of Europe pretty much. Piss off parts of South America. Force competitors to now form an Asian global alliance that could make the U.S. the next England. This is really going to strengthen trade, security and economic growth! Hey, but you still have Israel and on occasion Putin! Cheers! https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/30/china/chinas-xi-rolls-out-red-carpet-for-putin-modi-as-trump-upends-global-relations Sorry your feelings are so hurt but that sounds like a pretty lame argument to be perfectly candid. If the end result is more equal trade, it is a win. The jury is still out but hurt feelings don't enter into the equation.
dealraker Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) 25 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Sorry your feelings are so hurt but that sounds like a pretty lame argument to be perfectly candid. If the end result is more equal trade, it is a win. The jury is still out but hurt feelings don't enter into the equation. My goodness Reds are you competing hard for the go-for-the-low-blow standard. This overly simplistic idea tariffs solve all sells well and gets instant high fives with our 'just call 'em all stupid' crowd but rarely does someone like you go the brain dead path. Is it really this easy? Which "Bring Him Home" Les Miserables type emotion are you dealing with? Open yourself a furniture factory here in my area where they thrived and see how long it takes you to fill positions with legal...oh you know ---red cappers types. Not in your lifetime. What is equal trade? Maybe a super selling Trump distraction while he enriches his family selling crypto? Edited August 31, 2025 by dealraker
73 Reds Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 1 minute ago, dealraker said: My goodness Reds are you competing hard for the go-for-the-low-blow standard. This overly simplistic idea tariffs solve all sells well and gets instant high fives with our 'just call 'em all stupid' crowd but rarely does someone like you go the brain dead path. Is it really this easy? Which "Bring Him Home" Les Miserables type emotion are you dealing with? Open yourself a furniture factory here in my area where they thrived and see how long it takes you to fill positions with legal...oh you know ---red cappers types. Not in your lifetime. What is equal trade? Maybe a super selling Trump distraction while he enriches his family selling crypto? "What is equal trade?" A whole lot better than what we had. Resorting to the "Trump is dumb, corrupt, self enriching" nonsense is more brain dead than your accusations of my comments regarding trade. If we come out ahead, will there be any acknowledgement that sometimes the ends justify the means?
dealraker Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: "What is equal trade?" A whole lot better than what we had. Resorting to the "Trump is dumb, corrupt, self enriching" nonsense is more brain dead than your accusations of my comments regarding trade. If we come out ahead, will there be any acknowledgement that sometimes the ends justify the means? Are you sure Reds that we are or were on the losing side of trade? I'm sure as hell not. Edited August 31, 2025 by dealraker
73 Reds Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 Just now, dealraker said: Are you sure Reds that we are or were on the losing side of trade? I'm sure as hell not. What does that even mean? If the end result is more trade with our trading partners and less onerous tariffs on our products, why is that a problem?
dealraker Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 3 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: What does that even mean? If the end result is more trade with our trading partners and less onerous tariffs on our products, why is that a problem? Won't it be interesting if we sit on our ass stock investors end up finding that our gains were actually in unison to our trade policies.
73 Reds Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 3 minutes ago, dealraker said: Won't it be interesting if we sit on our ass stock investors end up finding that our gains were actually in unison to our trade policies. LOL, go ahead and short the market and the USA; I'll take the other side of that bet all day long.
cubsfan Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 Oh well, America voted for law enforcement, deportations of illegals, tariffs and America First. Out with the socialist's destruction of our culture and back to good ole' American values. Tough pill to swallow for the lefties. You'll get your shot in a couple of years - in the meantime - Life is Great if you can Stand it!!
Gregmal Posted August 31, 2025 Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: LOL, go ahead and short the market and the USA; I'll take the other side of that bet all day long. It’s actually a little ironic. Charlie used to be the perpetual optimist. Ruthlessly rational almost all the time. Always took the long view. I learned a lot from him and he helped shape aspects of how I invest and evolved as an investor. Then came Trump. Edited August 31, 2025 by Gregmal
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