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[cwericb]

48 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

1) I'm no big fan of the secondary tariffs on India. But alliances can change quickly, so much of this is theater - I'm fine with POTUS determining his foriegn policy.

But I do think it's a risky move.

 

2) Who the fuck cares - I sure don't

1) "But I do think it's a risky move."

I agree, and think it is more than risky. I would say he has made a serious mistake.  Trump's tariffs now seem to be creating an alliance between China, Russia and India. I wonder how many countries may join this reaction to US tariffs. Some may say he has overplayed his hand. 

 

2)  "Who the fuck cares - I sure don't".

Well Cubs, it seems that the guy in charge of your economy obviously has no grasp of the simple concept of percentages. That's fine, but then he uses percentages in the random tariffs he slaps on various items and countries. It just might indicate to some that he doesn't know what he is doing. 

[cwericb]

46 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

That’s easy.  Say you take a medication that costs $100.  If it’s price is cut by 1500%, then you are paid $1400 every time you take it.

 

Yup, and he thought there was a drug problem before...  Hmmmm....

[dealraker]

Cubs get ya-self some of this stuff our financial genius pres is sellin' and prove your loyalty!

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/trumps-world-liberty-financial-tokens-begin-trading-2025-09-01/?taid=68b5cd9a9bc307000130bdb4&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

[whiskybravo]

Biden: Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, all men and women created by the… you know, the thing.

Referred to the war in Ukraine as the Iraq War multiple times.

Said he met with François Mitterrand of France, who died in 1996.

 

Obama: I’ve now been in 57 states, I think one left to go.

Referred to Nazi concentration camps in Poland as Polish death camps.

 

Bush: They misunderestimated me.

Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?

 

And so on back to Washington.

 

 

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, dealraker said:

Cubs get ya-self some of this stuff our financial genius pres is sellin' and prove your loyalty!

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/trumps-world-liberty-financial-tokens-begin-trading-2025-09-01/?taid=68b5cd9a9bc307000130bdb4&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

27 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

Biden: Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, all men and women created by the… you know, the thing.

Referred to the war in Ukraine as the Iraq War multiple times.

Said he met with François Mitterrand of France, who died in 1996.

 

Obama: I’ve now been in 57 states, I think one left to go.

Referred to Nazi concentration camps in Poland as Polish death camps.

 

Bush: They misunderestimated me.

Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?

 

And so on back to Washington.

 

*chuckle*

 

- Great, just great ... the real nagging question for me personally here is ' : 'What is the lead time between becoming financial independent, to start - fully and in total, - to think as such? All we all know is that 'no man is island', we're all a part of of a community, - one way, or an other.

[cwericb]

1 hour ago, whiskybravo said:

Biden: Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, all men and women created by the… you know, the thing.

Referred to the war in Ukraine as the Iraq War multiple times.

Said he met with François Mitterrand of France, who died in 1996.

 

Obama: I’ve now been in 57 states, I think one left to go.

Referred to Nazi concentration camps in Poland as Polish death camps.

 

Bush: They misunderestimated me.

Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?

 

And so on back to Washington.

 

 

 

Haha can you imagine the books of trumpisms to be written. Could fill a library!

[73 Reds]

2 minutes ago, cwericb said:

 

Haha can you imagine the books of trumpisms to be written. Could fill a library!

Where were you during Biden's term?  If he said or did anything remotely competent I missed it.

[changegonnacome]

4 hours ago, cubsfan said:

1) I'm no big fan of the secondary tariffs on India. But alliances can change quickly, so much of this is theater - I'm fine with POTUS determining his foriegn policy.

But I do think it's a risky move.

Fair play for calling it out - really counterproductive & risky move to push India even an inch closer to China….i hope your right and its theatre designed to make it look like Trump is trying to ‘win’ against Russia in Ukraine such that when Ukraine has its ‘Afghanistan

moment’ and the front line collapses that he can say he tried everything to support them…the noises from Modi…the four refused Trump calls etc…point to something a little more than theatre and a genuine schism in relations indeed internal Indian media speaks openly about the US being an untrustworthy and unstable partner that might require a pivot to the East.
 

Let’s see I mean it’s only 1.4bn people & 4th largest GDP country globally cozying up to another billion or so people & the 2nd largest GDP country and our strategic foe. I mean what could go wrong, it’s probably nothing. 

[Sweet]

3 hours ago, cwericb said:

2)  "Who the fuck cares - I sure don't".

Well Cubs, it seems that the guy in charge of your economy obviously has no grasp of the simple concept of percentages. That's fine, but then he uses percentages in the random tariffs he slaps on various items and countries. It just might indicate to some that he doesn't know what he is doing. 

Or maybe Trump just wants people to talk about drug prices, and guess what, you’re talking about it.  And should drug prices fall many will remember Trump’s ludicrous ‘1,500%’ claim and they’ll think ‘well he did get the drug prices to come down’.

 

It’s kinda amazing at this point that people don’t understand Trump’s shtick which can be summarised as follows - 1) say outrageous shit, 2) get people talking about said outrageous shit’.

 

Edited September 1, 2025 by Sweet

[Buckeye]

11 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Or maybe Trump just wants people to talk about drug prices, and guess what, you’re talking about it.  And should drug prices fall many will remember Trump’s ludicrous ‘1,500%’ claim and they’ll think ‘well he did get the drug prices to come down’.

 

It’s kinda amazing at this point that people don’t understand Trump’s shtick which can be summarised as follows - 1) say outrageous shit, 2) get people talking about said outrageous shit’.

 

Or the explanation could be as simple as he doesn’t understand how percentages are calculated.
 

But because he’s an old white dude, we’ll be sure to give him the benefit of the doubt…something not afforded to women, or people of color these days. 

[Sweet]

13 minutes ago, Buckeye said:

Or the explanation could be as simple as he doesn’t understand how percentages are calculated.
 

But because he’s an old white dude, we’ll be sure to give him the benefit of the doubt…something not afforded to women, or people of color these days. 

Race card played nicely, and a bonus remark about women, neither of which makes much sense.

 

I have no idea if Trump understands the %s, but I’m very sure he doesn’t care if the % is correct, he cares that you all get rage baited into talking about his talking points.
 

[cubsfan]

4 hours ago, cwericb said:

1) "But I do think it's a risky move."

I agree, and think it is more than risky. I would say he has made a serious mistake.  Trump's tariffs now seem to be creating an alliance between China, Russia and India. I wonder how many countries may join this reaction to US tariffs. Some may say he has overplayed his hand. 

 

2)  "Who the fuck cares - I sure don't".

Well Cubs, it seems that the guy in charge of your economy obviously has no grasp of the simple concept of percentages. That's fine, but then he uses percentages in the random tariffs he slaps on various items and countries. It just might indicate to some that he doesn't know what he is doing. 

 

@cwericb

 

1) We can agree it's risky. But it may work out just peachy. If it doesn't, it can be rolled back just as quickly.  "Art of the Deal" baby - which is been very effective!

 

2) In other words "Big deal" - I've seen a lot worse. Try not to lose much sleep over it.

 

[cubsfan]

4 hours ago, dealraker said:

Cubs get ya-self some of this stuff our financial genius pres is sellin' and prove your loyalty!

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/trumps-world-liberty-financial-tokens-begin-trading-2025-09-01/?taid=68b5cd9a9bc307000130bdb4&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

Thanks deal - Crypto ain't my thing at all!

[cubsfan]

3 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

Biden: Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, all men and women created by the… you know, the thing.

Referred to the war in Ukraine as the Iraq War multiple times.

Said he met with François Mitterrand of France, who died in 1996.

 

Obama: I’ve now been in 57 states, I think one left to go.

Referred to Nazi concentration camps in Poland as Polish death camps.

 

Bush: They misunderestimated me.

Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?

 

And so on back to Washington.

 

 

 

Oh, that's hilarious .... "You know the thing..." - yeah Joe!

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

Where were you during Biden's term?  If he said or did anything remotely competent I missed it.

 

Haha - you could go the entire 4 years and never hear such a thing!

 

But they wanted to elected someone even worse than ole' Joe!

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, changegonnacome said:

Let’s see I mean it’s only 1.4bn people & 4th largest GDP country globally cozying up to another billion or so people & the 2nd largest GDP country and our strategic foe. I mean what could go wrong, it’s probably nothing. 

 

Oh, I don't think it's theatre at all - he's deadly serious. I probably shouldn't have phrased it like that.  I would like him to find a better way other than punishing a country with 1.3B people for the sake of Ukraine with 26M people.  Things can surely go wrong.  It can surely crush Russia's economy though.

 

But it can just as easily be rolled back in a nanosecond.

Edited September 1, 2025 by cubsfan

[changegonnacome]

9 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

It can surely crush Russia's economy though.

 

India isnt rolling over though....and its pushing them closer to China and away from us....Russia is going to 'win' in Ukraine....its more or less baked in the cake now....seems like the neocons have got a hold of Trump....very poor decision IMO.

[Buckeye]

44 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Race card played nicely, and a bonus remark about women, neither of which makes much sense.

 

I have no idea if Trump understands the %s, but I’m very sure he doesn’t care if the % is correct, he cares that you all get rage baited into talking about his talking points.
 

No rage for me Sweet! Never really cared that much about percentages. Just think it’s interesting the amount of slack/excuses this dude gets. There are numbered lists of excuses

 

Also pointing out that it’s sad to me that many/most women and people of color aren’t afforded this same type of slack. 
 

Not sure what you mean by “playing the race card.” 

[Sweet]

11 minutes ago, Buckeye said:

No rage for me Sweet! Never really cared that much about percentages. Just think it’s interesting the amount of slack/excuses this dude gets. There are numbered lists of excuses

 

Also pointing out that it’s sad to me that many/most women and people of color aren’t afforded this same type of slack. 
 

Not sure what you mean by “playing the race card.” 

Race has nothing to do with it but you’re trying to wedge it in there.

 

The same crowd who claimed there nothing wrong with Joe Biden’s mental ability, and sought to explain his many gaffes, never once mentioned anything about white men getting slack until it was Trump in the hot seat.

 

Much of MAGA is a cult for sure, but there is another cult, bigger, longer lasting cult, and the people in it are still oblivious that they’re participants in a cult, and that their cult spawned the MAGA one.

[cwericb]

30 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Oh, I don't think it's theatre at all - he's deadly serious. I probably shouldn't have phrased it like that.  I would like him to find a better way other than punishing a country with 1.3B people for the sake of Ukraine with 26M people.  Things can surely go wrong.  It can surely crush Russia's economy though.

 

But it can just as easily be rolled back in a nanosecond.

 

"But it can just as easily be rolled back in a nanosecond."

 

Step outside the box for a bit. Here is what you and perhaps the administration don't seem to realize. And this comes from from a country who has been stabbed in the back, slapped with tariffs, treated with derision and threatened and insulted by the President of The United States and it's administration.

 

While policies can "...easily be rolled back in a nanosecond..."  do you think the citizens and governments of those countries will just forgive and forget? 

 

Suppose your next door neighbour assaulted your family verbally and financially and then threatened you and your families future. How quick would you be to forgive and forget? 

[cwericb]

34 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Race has nothing to do with it but you’re trying to wedge it in there.

 

The same crowd who claimed there nothing wrong with Joe Biden’s mental ability, and sought to explain his many gaffes, never once mentioned anything about white men getting slack until it was Trump in the hot seat.

 

Much of MAGA is a cult for sure, but there is another cult, bigger, longer lasting cult, and the people in it are still oblivious that they’re participants in a cult, and that their cult spawned the MAGA one.

 

Understand what you are getting at, but by definition, I don't think that you can have a cult without a leader.

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, cubsfan said:

Oh, I don't think it's theatre at all - he's deadly serious. I probably shouldn't have phrased it like that.  I would like him to find a better way other than punishing a country with 1.3B people for the sake of Ukraine with 26M people.  Things can surely go wrong.  It can surely crush Russia's economy though.

 

But it can just as easily be rolled back in a nanosecond.

 

Mike [ @cubsfan ].

 

After an almost 'post storm' from you here on CofB&F, I have to ask you, what is it really, that you try to accomplish by your posting here in this topic? -Your relevant and to the point comments are at certainly different places more welcome than here, maybe even missed!

Edited September 1, 2025 by John Hjorth

[cubsfan]

30 minutes ago, cwericb said:

 

"But it can just as easily be rolled back in a nanosecond."

 

Step outside the box for a bit.

 

 

Like I said - Art of the Deal - tariffs are a great way to drive foreign policy.

Have a little sympathy for those dying in a stalemate war - that NO one in the world has attempted to stop. Tariffs on India are not going to make a shit of difference for teh people of Ukraine - but stopping the war will make all the difference.

[cubsfan]

21 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Mike [ @cubsfan ].

 

After an almost 'post storm' from you here on CofB&F, I have to ask you, what is it really, that you try to accomplish by your posting here in this topic? -Your relevant and to the point comments are at certainly different places more welcome than here, maybe even missed!

 

Sorry John - you totally lost me on this one.

[dealraker]

2 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Thanks deal - Crypto ain't my thing at all!

Yea I know you aren't in to crypto Cubs, just pointing out the pres bringing wonderful "productive" type businesses to the US.