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[dwy000]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

"What is equal trade?"  A whole lot better than what we had.  Resorting to the "Trump is dumb, corrupt, self enriching" nonsense is more brain dead than your accusations of my comments regarding trade.  If we come out ahead, will there be any acknowledgement that sometimes the ends justify the means?      

How is this equal trade?  What logical sense does 50% tariffs on India make?  How does that benefit Americans?  How do tariffs on the UK and Brazil, where we have a trade surplus benefit Americans or make any logical sense.

 

The real irony is that tariffs and trade barriers were old Democrat policies.  The Republicans were the pro business party that pushed for free trade.  But now that Trump is the one pushing it youre all in because....the deal leader has said so.  Cult. 

Edited August 31, 2025 by dwy000

[73 Reds]

5 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

How is this equal trade?  What logical sense does 50% tariffs on India make?  How does that benefit Americans?  How do tariffs on the UK and Brazil, where we have a trade surplus benefit Americans or make any logical sense.

 

The real irony is that tariffs and trade barriers were old Democrat policies.  The Republicans were the pro business party that pushed for free trade.  But now that Trump is the one pushing it youre all in because....the deal leader has said so.  Cult. 

In a vacuum, 50% tariffs on India are not good.  But what many fail to recognize is the tariffs are not intended to be permanent; they are intended to achieve a purpose.  If 50% tariffs make India think twice about who they buy their oil from, I'M OK with it for now.

[John Hjorth]

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Please think a bit about this, not only if this place is precious to you, but especially if it its not, because someone may perhaps consider this place more precious than you do.

 

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[Gregmal]

13 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

The real irony is that tariffs and trade barriers were old Democrat policies.  The Republicans were the pro business party that pushed for free trade.  But now that Trump is the one pushing it youre all in because....the deal leader has said so.  Cult. 

Hilarious and again embarrassing. It’s fairly common knowledge that gradually over time policies become more liberal leaning as societies evolve. It’s been pointed out ad nauseam that the “1990s democrat” is basically today’s center/center right”. Where have you been living? 

[dwy000]

6 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

In a vacuum, 50% tariffs on India are not good.  But what many fail to recognize is the tariffs are not intended to be permanent; they are intended to achieve a purpose.  If 50% tariffs make India think twice about who they buy their oil from, I'M OK with it for now.

Now do the UK.  And Brazil.  And Switzerland.  And Canada.  

[73 Reds]

Just now, dwy000 said:

Now do the UK.  And Brazil.  And Switzerland.  And Canada.  

Again (for the ??) time I don't agree with every single decision made by our President.  But I didn't agree with ANY decision made by the prior President.  How hard is that to understand?

[dwy000]

Just now, Gregmal said:

Hilarious and again embarrassing. It’s fairly common knowledge that gradually over time policies become more liberal leaning as societies evolve. It’s been pointed out ad nauseam that the “1990s democrat” is basically today’s center/center right”. Where have you been living? 

Yes the democrats have moved to the right. Nobody is saying otherwise. And as a former Republican voter I think that's a good thing. 

 

My point is the opposite. That the Republicans (well, not republicans, mostly the cult) have gone the opposite direction and become more socialist. Trade barriers. Forced stakes in US companies.  Federal military on the streets.  Reagan would be rolling over in his grave.  Yet you guys cheer, not because it makes sense but because its Trump.  Thata a cult. 

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Again (for the ??) time I don't agree with every single decision made by our President.  But I didn't agree with ANY decision made by the prior President.  How hard is that to understand?

So other than India, you oppose the tariffs?  

[73 Reds]

2 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

So other than India, you oppose the tariffs?  

I think they make more sense on some countries than others.  

[dwy000]

Just now, 73 Reds said:

I think they make more sense on some countries than others.  

Other than India, which ones?  What is the end game with the tariffs, especially if as you say, they are temporary?

[73 Reds]

Just now, dwy000 said:

Other than India, which ones?  What is the end game with the tariffs, especially if as you say, they are temporary?

Why don't you rethink your "cultist" ideals and then maybe some here will choose to engage with you more substantively.  

[dwy000]

3 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Why don't you rethink your "cultist" ideals and then maybe some here will choose to engage with you more substantively.  

Why always back away when asked to rationalize your support? "Ask more nicely"  "Stop calling it a cult".   Thats exactly why I call it a cult. If you cant give your independent rationale for something  but support it because Trump says so...cult. 

[73 Reds]

Just now, dwy000 said:

Why always back away when asked to rationalize your support? "Ask more nicely"  "Stop calling it a cult".   Thats exactly why I call it a cult. If you cant give your independent rationale for something  but support it because Trump says so...cult. 

Precisely the kind of comment that precludes further discussion.

[whiskybravo]

17 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Precisely the kind of comment that precludes further discussion.

It’s fruitless.  He completely misinterpreted Greg’s comment that the ‘90s Democrat would now be considered center right as societal policies tend to move to the left.  Translation the current Democrats are to the left of those of the ‘90s.  He thinks they have moved to the right.  

[Spekulatius]

22 hours ago, Sweet said:

I live in the UK, I have to take ID with me everytime I vote and it’s normally my passport.  Please pretending it’s a big ask.  

It was the same Germany where I lived. However it was super easy to get an ID and every one got one . This is not the case in the US depending on the state you live in.  read my above post how it works in NC. 3month wait list to show up at DMV isn’t easy in my book. In Germany, I can get to the local town office as well as many other official offices (if you don’t happen to be in your hometown). Everyone got one once he is 16 years old and it’s also free (not the case in the US either).

[Castanza]

9 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

It was the same Germany where I lived. However it was super easy to get an ID and every one got one . This is not the case in the US depending on the state you live in.  read my above post how it works in NC. 3month wait list to show up at DMV isn’t easy in my book. In Germany, I can get to the local town office as well as many other official offices (if you don’t happen to be in your hometown). Everyone got one once he is 16 years old and it’s also free (not the case in the US either).

Good thing elections only take place every 4 years. 

 

Most states issues IDs within weeks and many do them immediately. I got my Ohio DR license when I moved there immediately. A lot of them do temporary IDs as well once you submit for an official one. 
 

Wouldn’t an ID requirement to vote put an end to all this arguing? It removes all question marks around “voter fraud.” If you care about voting you should be responsible enough to get an ID. 
 

Edit: Im not a fan of the ICE agents at polling stations. I think it’s silly and needless. But it shouldn’t be a deterrent to legal voters with an ID the same way a security guard at a liquor store isn’t a deterrent to those who are over 21 and have an ID.

 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by Castanza

[dwy000]

5 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

It’s fruitless.  He completely misinterpreted Greg’s comment that the ‘90s Democrat would now be considered center right as societal policies tend to move to the left.  Translation the current Democrats are to the left of those of the ‘90s.  He thinks they have moved to the right.  

My point had nothing to do with the Democrats at all.  It was a comment on Trump's Republicans.  

[73 Reds]

3 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

It was the same Germany where I lived. However it was super easy to get an ID and every one got one . This is not the case in the US depending on the state you live in.  read my above post how it works in NC. 3month wait list to show up at DMV isn’t easy in my book. In Germany, I can get to the local town office as well as many other official offices (if you don’t happen to be in your hometown). Everyone got one once he is 16 years old and it’s also free (not the case in the US either).

But why should it be "easy" or "free"?  For all of us who get driver's licenses, passports, etc.. it takes a bit of time and effort and there is a small cost.  If one chooses not to endure a bit of inconvenience don't vote (and perhaps live somewhere else).    

[dwy000]

1 minute ago, Castanza said:

Good thing elections only take place every 4 years. 

 

Most states issues IDs within weeks and many do them immediately. I got my Ohio DR license when I moved there immediately. A lot of them do temporary IDs as well once you submit for an official one. 
 

Wouldn’t an ID requirement to vote put an end to all this arguing? It removes all question marks around “voter fraud.” If you care about voting you should be responsible enough to get an ID. 

 

 

 

The discussion wasnt so much around what ID is needed to vote given the lack of voter fraud. It was the requirement to carry your passport with you (not just DL or similarly ID) because ICE is hanging around polling stations for some reason.  

[whiskybravo]

1 hour ago, dwy000 said:

Yes the democrats have moved to the right. Nobody is saying otherwise. And as a former Republican voter I think that's a good thing. 

 

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

 

And?  That was in reference to the 90's Ddemocrats that Greg commented on. 

 

And completely diverted/missed the entire discussion point which is Trump pushing more socialist policies instead of Republican ones. 

[whiskybravo]

3 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

And?  That was in reference to the 90's Ddemocrats that Greg commented on. 

 

And completely diverted/missed the entire discussion point which is Trump pushing more socialist policies instead of Republican ones. 

In which he commented societal policies have moved to the left.  Democrats far to the left, not to the right as you stated.

 

I wouldn’t normally bust chops, for such a peccadillo, but if you’re going to hold others to a high standard, you’d better be spotless yourself.

 

[John Hjorth]

4 minutes ago, Castanza said:

Good thing elections only take place every 4 years. 

 

Most states issues IDs within weeks and many do them immediately. I got my Ohio DR license when I moved there immediately. A lot of them do temporary IDs as well once you submit for an official one. 
 

Wouldn’t an ID requirement to vote put an end to all this arguing? It removes all question marks around “voter fraud.” If you care about voting you should be responsible enough to get an ID. 

 

This is so friggin' simple to solve that no matter what country it is about, Americans get a longlasting and high level discussion discussion out of election fraud, while the real issue at hand is alll this long lasting and high level discussion are based on the assumption on the assumption, that US election procedures are best standard possible, whjile it's actually not in any way the case. It's about digitalisation and simple and design of basic internal electoral controls and procedures.

 

Here we are getting summonded by a physical letter, sent to us by mail, this letter contains a voting slip attached. It you want to vote by mail, you have to physically return by mail your voting slip. If not included in your vote by mail, your vote is disapproved as non-counting. By apearance at your voting location, your voting slip is phusically withdrawn from you as the price paid for the ballot list to vote, and paired with a dummy copy only existing in one physical specimen. One is asked to have ID available at appearance at the voting place, and all have such even if you have no passport or driver license. It's here called a 'health card'.

[dwy000]

Just now, whiskybravo said:

In which he commented societal policies have moved to the left.  Democrats far to the left, not to the right as you stated.

 

I wouldn’t normally bust chops, for such a peccadillo, but if you’re going to hold others to a high standard, you’d better be spotless yourself.

 

?? I was literally agreeing with Greg on something and now youre complaining about that?

 

And none of that discussion on my side was even intended to be about Democrats. The whole lost point was that Trump policies are more socialist than traditional Republican. 

[Castanza]

5 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

This is so friggin' simple to solve that no matter what country it is about, Americans get a longlasting and high level discussion discussion out of election fraud, while the real issue at hand is alll this long lasting and high level discussion are based on the assumption on the assumption, that US election procedures are best standard possible, whjile it's actually not in any way the case. It's about digitalisation and simple and design of basic internal electoral controls and procedures.

 

Here we are getting summonded by a physical letter, sent to us by mail, this letter contains a voting slip attached. It you want to vote by mail, you have to physically return by mail your voting slip. If not included in your vote by mail, your vote is disapproved as non-counting. By apearance at your voting location, your voting slip is phusically withdrawn from you as the price paid for the ballot list to vote, and paired with a dummy copy only existing in one physical specimen. One is asked to have ID available at appearance at the voting place, and all have such even if you have no passport or driver license. It's here called a 'health card'.

Haha exactly that’s a great solution! There are MANY solutions to this whole debate. But no matter the choice in the US there will be complaints. For mail in ballots it will be “you need to show up in person to be a real American!”, “people are stealing mailed in ballots and filling them out” or some other argument like “this random person living in the middle of nowhere who doesn’t have access to public transportation that is wheel chair, service animal and hypoallergenic friendly couldn’t get an ID.” So the ID requirement is unfair! 
 

People in America like to:

 

- Talk out of both sides of their mouths when things do or don’t benefit them directly. 
 

- Complain and argue about everything.