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[adesigar]

Millions of Voting age Americans citizens do not have a Drivers License or other id.

There have been less than 100 cases of Illegal immigrants voting the last 40+ years or about 5 cases per election.

 

But the cultists believe its to prevent those 5 cases.

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2025 by adesigar

[adesigar]

2 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

So show it!  If it happens all the time show it. 

 

There is no proof. They just hear about it on faux news and regurgitate it.

[cubsfan]

7 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

So show it!  If it happens all the time show it. 

 

Yeah - and there was no mortgage fraud either - the experts told us so!

[Gregmal]

Bwahaha. Takes 15 minutes to get a government issued ID(maybe a bit more in the poorly run liberal shit holes but still, point stands). Same one you need to fly or open a bank account. But nah, taking 20-30 minutes out of your day to “perform the civic duty” might be impeded by simply presenting your ability to competently spend 10-15 minutes getting an identification card. Good lord almighty these guys are too much.

Edited August 29, 2025 by Gregmal

[cubsfan]

45 minutes ago, adesigar said:

Millions of Voting age Americans citizens do not have a Drivers License or other id.

 

No need to tell bold face lies.  So millions of Americans never board a plane, get married, open a bank account, apply for social security, drive a car, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, enter a nightclub bar, check into a hotel, apply for a job, register for public schools, apply for welfare, apply for food stamps, adopt a pet, rent an apartment, buy a cell phone, pick up a prescription, buy a gun,  apply for unemployment, etc, etc.-  

 

Yeah - Millions of Americans don't have an ID.

 

 

You really do think we are stupid.

 

Edited August 29, 2025 by cubsfan

[dwy000]

3 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Bwahaha. Takes 15 minutes to get a government issued ID(maybe a bit more in the poorly run liberal shit holes but still, point stands). Same one you need to fly or open a bank account. But nah, taking 20-30 minutes out of your day to “perform the civic duty” might be impeded by simply presenting your ability to competently spend 10-15 minutes getting an identification card. Good lord almighty these guys are too much.

Ahh remember when Republicans were about less Big Brother, less government intervention, freer trade, less govt ownership of assets and balanced budgets.  

[Gregmal]

1 minute ago, dwy000 said:

Ahh remember when Republicans were about less Big Brother, less government intervention, freer trade, less govt ownership of assets and balanced budgets.  

What does that have to do with possessing basic identification? You guys are shot. 
 

I don’t think there’s voter fraud anymore than there’s identity fraud or anything else. Probably even substantially less so. However in a civilized society presenting basic forms of ID isn’t some sort of Herculean task unless you’re a retard or a liberal apparently.

[dwy000]

2 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

What does that have to do with possessing basic identification? You guys are shot. 
 

I don’t think there’s voter fraud anymore than there’s identity fraud or anything else. Probably even substantially less so. However in a civilized society presenting basic forms of ID isn’t some sort of Herculean task unless you’re a retard or a liberal apparently.

To come full circle, if you agree there isnt voter fraud then why would ICE agents want to set up at polling stations?

[Gregmal]

7 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

, buy alcohol, buy cigarettes, enter a nightclub bar, check into a hote

Yea that’s gotta be the nail in the coffin of their absolutely shit argument. I really didn’t even think that far into it. But yea, all those degens definitely do most if not all of the things you listed above….no problem there. Frankly, those aren’t the types we need “doing their civic duties”. It’s how you end up with a California or Chicago situation lol

[Gregmal]

1 minute ago, dwy000 said:

To come full circle, if you agree there isnt voter fraud then why would ICE agents want to set up at polling stations?

No idea, I don’t worry about law enforcement doing their jobs anymore than I worry about what Syndey Crosby is up to.

[changegonnacome]

4 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

However in a civilized society presenting basic forms of ID isn’t some sort of Herculean task unless you’re a retard or a liberal apparently.

 

Yeah i think thats right.....when a party is advocating for something less than this (basic basic ID).....it makes me question their motives...folks need to take a step back and think for a second

[changegonnacome]

On 7/28/2025 at 3:38 AM, changegonnacome said:

(1) the commission's view is that tariffs will be deemed illegal by no later than June 2026 by the US Supreme Court (all lower court indications are pointing in this direction apparently) 

 

 

[dwy000]

1 minute ago, changegonnacome said:

 

Yeah i think thats right.....when a party is advocating for something less than this (basic basic ID).....it makes me question their motives...folks need to take a step back and think for a second

Nobody is advocating for that. Like most discussions on here this has gone down a tangential rabbit hole.   The whole ID discussion was not about how difficult it is to get and carry ID, it was about why ICE would be stationed at polling stations and whether that was intimidating or not. Nobody has yet been able to say why its rational for them to be there unless it was about political theater.  Its not about large scale voting fraud which doesnt appear to exist. So why?

[cubsfan]

^^^ NO - the argument was about how to prevent cheating in an election.

Very simple - demand a proof of citizenship. 

[changegonnacome]

2 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

it was about why ICE would be stationed at polling stations and whether that was intimidating or not. Nobody has yet been able to say why its rational for them to be there unless it was about political theater.  Its not about large scale voting fraud which doesnt appear to exist. So why?

 

If its irrational....and stupid...fine...its irrational and stupid.....sure a waste of resources and money to do so...but I guess one can argue that you let the experiment run one time...to find out quantitatively how stupid and dumb it is........I wholeheartedly disagree on the voting conspiracy theories of the right....but lets let them run their retarded experiments one time....if there is such confidence in the outcome why be so afraid of the results?

[dwy000]

3 minutes ago, changegonnacome said:

 

If its irrational....and stupid...fine...its irrational and stupid.....sure a waste of resources and money to do so...but I guess one can argue that you let the experiment run one time...to find out quantitatively how stupid and dumb it is........I wholeheartedly disagree on the voting conspiracy theories of the right....but lets let them run their retarded experiments one time....if there is such confidence in the outcome why be so afraid of the results?

Because "just let them do it once" is probably what Hitlers opponents said.  And the odds they would ever admit it was a waste of time is zero.  And its my taxpayer money funding it. 

Edited August 29, 2025 by dwy000

[changegonnacome]

2 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Because "just let them do it once" is probably what Hitlers opponents said.  And the odds they would ever admit it was a waste of time is zero.  And its my taxpayer money funding it. 

 

In this instance....its so binary....if you've the right to vote, you've got the right to vote..and your vote gets recorded.....in an inverse way it might actually drive liberal voter turnout..........as regards the cost....and because its close to impossible to goose the result....it would be an excellent use of taxpayers dollars to restore 'voter integrity'.....I say let it rip.

[dwy000]

1 minute ago, changegonnacome said:

 

In this instance....its so binary....if you've the right to vote, you've got the right to vote..and your vote gets recorded.....in an inverse way it might actually drive liberal voter turnout..........as regards the cost....and because its close to impossible to goose the result....it would be an excellent use of taxpayers dollars to restore 'voter integrity'.....I say let it rip.

To be honest if it drives people to vote by mail it's probably not the worst thing. 

[Spekulatius]

18 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

So guns for everyone are essential for work, travel, deliveries, public transportation, etc.  Didn't know guns were so universally useful and necessary!  

 

Would have taken a shitload of cars and knives to kill all of the people that were shot at the concert outside Mandalay Bay!  Cheers!

Why stop with guns though?  I need a bazooka to defend against armored vehicles and  tanks and Stinger missiles to defend against airplanes.

Edited August 30, 2025 by Spekulatius

[DooDiligence]

Get ready for a load of whining over the latest on tariffs.

[Spekulatius]

4 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Bwahaha. Takes 15 minutes to get a government issued ID(maybe a bit more in the poorly run liberal shit holes but still, point stands). Same one you need to fly or open a bank account. But nah, taking 20-30 minutes out of your day to “perform the civic duty” might be impeded by simply presenting your ability to competently spend 10-15 minutes getting an identification card. Good lord almighty these guys are too much.

This is definitely  not true. It takes way more effort to get an id card, ID cards are issued by DMV, just like the driving licenses.

 

I don’t know if NC qualifies as liberal shithole but that is the state (I have lived in 4 so far) that was most difficult to get an appointment at the DMV. The DMV here is totally overloaded and it is also responsible for state ID as well.. Your

choice is to book an appointment  online which go at most 3 month ahead and slots immediately fill up, or do the walk in line, which often means you wait for hours and then never get to the end before the office closes. (FWIW, I found a way to beat the walk in line on NC but that’s another matter).
 

The above are the reasons why a lot of people from out of state don’t have NV issued driving license or drive around with expired licenses too. it very common if you ask around.

 

From all the states I have lived in MA was by far the best/ most streamline and quickest  in term of the DMV, followed by NY, then CA and last NC. 

Now most residents don’t see that because generally speaking, states make it very easy to renew ID once you are resident which may make them believe it’s all good.

 

I think it’s reasonable to ask for voter identification but it’s also reasonable to make it easy to obtain an ID (like starting from birth) and it isn’t. the problem I see is that it differ from state to state and some states seem to be doing a lousy job running this department . So if voter ID is mndatory, it should be a federal law to end how state provide ID to their citizens. The ID has to provided by the state because the voting occurs at a state level too.

 

Also funny, most people think that a driving license means that you are eligible  to vote and that is just not true. Both have nothing to do with each other. You could have a driving license and not be US citizen, or do not live in the same state any more. ID’s by itself don’t guarantee no voter fraud.

Edited August 30, 2025 by Spekulatius

[Gregmal]

I mean in general everything is about common sense and common sense tells you voter fraud makes zero sense for illegal immigrants. It’s a non issue. I am a citizen and often don’t vote. There’s many reasons. But generally, your vote doesn’t really count for all that much.
 

So sure, I can see dark money PAC groups sending envelopes of cash to shady groups(of course in under the table and non traceable ways) that might play some games with mail in ballots or even dead people’s info, but I see zero reason why any illegal immigrant would ever feel compelled to rush to the polls trying to vote.

 

But regardless, having an ID should go without saying. 

[Parsad]

10 hours ago, Sweet said:

Yeh but dwy, it’s their job to find illegals.  That requires confront people, it’s going to feel intimidating, even harassing or threatening.  It’s not an excuse for a person not to vote and it’s not a reason why ICE shouldn’t do their job.  People need to grow some skin.

 

Is ICE going to show up at red-city/red-state locations doing the same thing?  I don't think so.  Cheers!

[Parsad]

9 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

That's very foolish.

 

This no different than the 2006 mortgage fraud. With NO Doc, No Verification (income) - all that was required to get a mortgage was you were able to breath.

And you have a financial disaster.

 

Voting is identical - NO DOC, NO VERIFICATION - massive voter fraud.

Especially for illegals who are the recipients of free housing, education, medical and food.

 

The democrats are terrified of removing the incentives to cheat.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's not how it works.  Election officials have a registry of names of people who can vote in a region.  If you don't have ID you are given a provisional ballot.  That ballot is then vetted by checking the name, past voting practices, address, etc.  If someone else voted with that name, the provisional ballot individual has to produce ID to verify themselves.  

 

So that's why there was no actual wide-spread fraud as many MAGA supporters assert.  There may have been minor fraud here and there, but there was no wide-spread fraud that affected the election results.  

 

More fraud happened in Donald Trump's offices than in the general U.S. and state elections!  Cheers!

[Parsad]

9 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Yeah - and there was no mortgage fraud for 10 years in America starting in 2000.

Why?  Cause all the ratings agencies said so!   No fraudulent  mortgages because they were all rated AAA !  The ratings agencies were in on the fraud.

 

And illegals won't game the voting system because they have no incentive to!

The democrats are in on the fraud!

 

Who you kidding?!

 

Hahaha!  Are you suggesting it was the illegals that bundled together bad mortgages into AAA MBS as well as your purported election fraud?  

 

Also, how do we know how many of these supposed voting illegals voted for Trump?  He had 42% of the Latino vote...that's a lot...I would imagine, according to your estimates, a shitload must have been illegal!  

 

When I stayed at the Trump hotel in Chicago, about 90% of the employees were Latino...how many were illegal? 

 

Cheers!