Leaving New York City

[rogermunibond]

Waluigi jokes are trending online

[Haryana]

Look at that face of a Predator 

 

Or a “totally normal guy” ! 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-death-investigation-12-9-24#cm4hgw8dr0005356netxozej0 

[rkbabang]

Assassin Luigi's goodreads review of the Unabomber's Manifesto.  He endorses the use of violence multiple times.

 

"When all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive. You may not like his methods, but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism, it's war and revolution."

 

"Peaceful protest is outright ignored, economic protest isn't possible in the current system, so how long until we recognize that violence against those who lead us to such destruction is justified as self-defense."

 

"These companies don't care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?"

 

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4065667863

[Longnose]

8 minutes ago, rkbabang said:

Assassin Luigi's goodreads review of the Unabomber's Manifesto.  He endorses the use of violence multiple times.

 

"When all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive. You may not like his methods, but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism, it's war and revolution."

 

"Peaceful protest is outright ignored, economic protest isn't possible in the current system, so how long until we recognize that violence against those who lead us to such destruction is justified as self-defense."

 

"These companies don't care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?"

 

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4065667863

makes me think of this movie.

 

[Dalal.Holdings]

Valedictorian high school kid & Ivy League grad in comp sci ... a shame to see that he (allegedly) threw away a life full of potential.

 

Who knows the cause? Radicalization through indoctrination in elite institutions of education? Psychotic break? None of the above? I guess we might find out over time

[John Hjorth]

His qualms should likely be directed at what he has already imposed of pain on his nearest family, combined with the pain, sorrow and hardship, he already has imposed on the nearest family of the victim of his doings, Brian Thompson.

 

All, subject to, that he's indeed the culprit here.

[Blake Hampton]

1 hour ago, Dalal.Holdings said:

Valedictorian high school kid & Ivy League grad in comp sci ... a shame to see that he (allegedly) threw away a life full of potential.

 

Who knows the cause? Radicalization through indoctrination in elite institutions of education? Psychotic break? None of the above? I guess we might find out over time

Seems to me he had a bad experience regarding a spinal injury…

[Dalal.Holdings]

 

Experimenting with psychedelics is risky in that there is a risk of losing your mind

 

There is even a purported connection to early (teenage) marijuana use and psychosis later in life. A lot of the marijuana products out there are a lot more potent than they use to be

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25774457/

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33617756/

 

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/young-men-highest-risk-schizophrenia-linked-cannabis-use-disorder

 

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Young men with cannabis (marijuana) use disorder have an increased risk of developing schizophrenia, according to a study led by researchers at the Mental Health Services in the Capital Region of Denmark and the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) at the National Institutes of Health. The study, published in Psychological Medicine(link is external), analyzed detailed health records data spanning 5 decades and representing more than 6 million people in Denmark to estimate the fraction of schizophrenia cases that could be attributed to cannabis use disorder on the population level.

 

Edited December 10 by Dalal.Holdings

[Haryana]

No panacea Canada.

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/10908375/cancer-patients-canada-costs

Cancer patients shouldering an average of $33K in costs in Canada: report

[Blake Hampton]

Suspect in C.E.O. Killing Withdrew From a Life of Privilege and Promise - NYT
 

This is a very good article on the subject

[Saluki]

This case is disturbing, but not for the usual reasons people cite. There were 386 murders in NYC last year.  If you believe that we are all equal under the law and in the eyes of our elected officials, then why in those other murders didn't they also show a photo of the ID to every member of the NYPD, and also have 100 police officers retrace every suspect's footsteps to look for clues, and even enlisted the scuba divers if necessary. 

 

I'm sure the family of a bodega worker killed in an armed robbery would be grateful if they received the same importance as the CEO of a large corporation. 

 

In 1989 a friend of mine was executed on a busy street just like Brian Thompson.  They didn't catch the guy until 2006.  There was a detective assigned to his case, but this wasn't his only murder and he didn't have 100 people to look for clues.

https://nypost.com/2006/03/30/mole-probe-solves-senseless-89-murder-bklyn-teens-kin-its-justice-at-last/

 

If you're wondering what he did to get killed by the mafia, he didn't do anything except look a lot like one of the people they were actually after. If Luigi had killed someone in the same manner, but it was another middle aged chubby white guy walking in Manhattan who just happened to look like the CEO, then he'd still be out there. 

 

Christopher Hitchens said his parents hated the fact the UK had a ruling class, but they sent him to the best schools they could afford because although they hated that the UK had a ruling class, they wanted their son to be part of it rather than on the outside looking in. 

 

When gang members beat up uniformed police officers in times square, they were all released without bail.  When gang members attacked the ex-governor and his son, the bail was set at $25,000 cash.  Do better New York. 

 

[cubsfan]

^^^ Definitely tough to argue with this. 

[John Hjorth]

This topic has become so creepy to read lately for a Northern European guy like me.

 

That said, please do not think that it is that much different up here in tiny Denmark, up in the Northern Europe. So much meaningsless and absolutely crazy stuff going on in Copenhagen nowadays, where the Police has been caught flatfooted, without the means and resources to keep up with crime. It has been both with regards to the content of the toolbox of the Police, and legislation lagging behind.

[nsx5200]

18 hours ago, Haryana said:

No panacea Canada.

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/10908375/cancer-patients-canada-costs

Cancer patients shouldering an average of $33K in costs in Canada: report

"The report estimates a cancer patient will face almost $33,000 on average in out-of-pocket cancer-related costs in their lifetime, including loss of income"

 

Not cheap, but not bankruptcy, I want to go murder the head of the insurance entity, level, IMHO.

 

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" - Orwell

Edited December 10 by nsx5200
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[73 Reds]

1 minute ago, nsx5200 said:

"The report estimates a cancer patient will face almost $33,000 on average in out-of-pocket cancer-related costs in their lifetime, including loss of income"

 

Not cheap, but not bankruptcy, I want to go murder the head of the insurance entity, level, IMHO.

Been there.  The "average cost" is probably skewed downward due to those who quickly succumb to their affliction.  For lucky survivors its probably a lot more because of ongoing treatments/scans/therapies/preventative measures for the rest of our lives.

[John Hjorth]

5 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

Suspect in C.E.O. Killing Withdrew From a Life of Privilege and Promise - NYT
 

This is a very good article on the subject

 

I would guess the New York Times article linked to above by Blake [ @Blake Hampton ], might contain the deeper background information and thereby also the explanation of what this tragic event actually was about.

[Ulti]

2 hours ago, Saluki said:

eyes of our elected officials, then why in those other murders didn't they also show a photo of the ID to every member of the NYPD, and also have 100 police officers retrace every suspect's footsteps to look for clues, and

They might already have this but why not create a dedicated website with suspects name photo and info along with an award substantial enough to have the public’s eyeballs…. Too creepy for NYC? They already have cameras everywhere.

[dwy000]

25 minutes ago, Ulti said:

They might already have this but why not create a dedicated website with suspects name photo and info along with an award substantial enough to have the public’s eyeballs…. Too creepy for NYC? They already have cameras everywhere.

Certain cases capture the public's attention more than others.  Natalie Holloway, Gabby Petito, Alex Murdaugh, etc.  This one had all the hallmarks to do so - targeted brazen shooting with a silencer in NYC, high profile rich target, CEO of a maligned industry that would please a lot of people, a suspect who was attractive and eluded police, etc.  It's straight out of a Dateline episode.  High media profile results in a lot of police attention, much more than a case that nobody hears about.  

[Ulti]

7 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Certain cases capture the public's attention more than others.  Natalie Holloway, Gabby Petito, Alex Murda

Agree but don’t you think in a transactional society money will motivate all type of people ( internet sleuths, workers at McDonald’s etc)? And some type of centralized system that people can access? Just a thought 

[dwy000]

Yes.  But if theres a murder a day (and NYC has one of the lower violent crime rates of large US cities) how many do you actually hear about if you're not actively searching it out?  That guy at McDonalds who called him in was in a whole different state and would never have even known what to look for if it wasn't such a high profile case. 

[Dalal.Holdings]

https://nypost.com/2024/12/10/us-news/accused-ceo-murderer-luigi-mangione-screams-its-an-insult-to-the-intelligence-of-the-american-people-as-he-arrives-for-extradition-hearing/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social

 

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Accused CEO murderer Luigi Mangione screams ‘it’s an insult to the intelligence of the American people’ as he arrives for extradition hearing

 

Someone who was clearly a bright young man with a bright future clearly lost his mind. Risk factors for developing such mental health diseases need to be discussed by society. It is not discussed enough that recreational drug use (even marijuana) increases the chances that a young person will develop schizophrenia, a lifelong debilitating condition that is extremely difficult to live with and often results in homelessness, crime, suicide, etc.

 

These drugs are glamorized in culture that young people partake in -- podcasts (Joe Rogan), music, etc. Even silicon valley types love promoting "micro-dosing" of psychedelics, ayahuasca, and general experimentation. Anti-drug enforcement activists never discuss the downside of drugs, laughing about the risks of marijuana whose use has become widespread with much more potent forms readily available and "decriminalized". As younger and younger individuals consume more cannabinoid products at higher dosages, we will likely see more people develop these psychotic disorders and ruin their lives.

 

I would take any young person and show them a schizophrenic individual and let them know that every time they use a drug like that, they are increasing the risk that their brain ends up fried just like that individual.

[LC]

Frankly as a Nintendo shareholder I think this is positive news. I eagerly await the next Luigi spinoff featuring vigilante justice for Princess. 

 

edit: Oh, this is just pure gold. Should be in the "tell me a joke" thread:

https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/luigi-mangione-ceo-shooting-mcdonalds-worker-reward-333982-20241210

Edited December 11 by LC

[Eng12345]

Anyone have tips on NYC trip for a first timer? My wife and I are planning to be there 20th-25th and we're staying in Midtown/Times Square area. 

 

I know the touristy things we want to do include

Brooklyn Bridge

Comedy Cellar

Rockefeller Center/Christmas lights 

An observation deck

Statue of Liberty/Ellis Island <<<probably not worth it for such a short trip/first time

Walk Time Square

Walk Central Park

 

Any other thoughts/must dos?

Edited Friday at 03:01 PM by Eng12345

[Saluki]

19 minutes ago, Eng12345 said:

Anyone have tips on NYC trip for a first timer? My wife and I are planning to be there 20th-25th and we're staying in Midtown/Times Square area. 

 

I know the touristy things we want to do include

Brooklyn Bridge

Comedy Cellar

Rockefeller Center/Christmas lights 

An observation deck

Statue of Liberty/Ellis Island <<<probably not worth it for such a short trip/first time

Walk Time Square

Walk Central Park

 

Any other thoughts/must dos?

 

Statue of Liberty is definitely worth the trip.  It's a half day though, with getting there and back. 

 

If you want to see a Broadway play, but not any particular one, you can go to one of the TKTS locations and get some for shows that extra tickets, sometimes half off, for the same day. 

 

I think the hop-on hop-off tourbus is overpriced, but the route will take you to all the major spots in Manhattan and the tour guides are pretty knowledgeable about the history.

 

Your wife probably isn't interested in the financial district, so I wouldn't make a trip just for that, but if you go to the World Trade Center, it's close by and you can see the Bull statue and rub the horns (or balls) for good luck. And the bar where George Washington had his farewell dinner with his troops is still there and nearby also if I recall.  

[bizaro86]

On 12/10/2024 at 11:05 AM, 73 Reds said:

Been there.  The "average cost" is probably skewed downward due to those who quickly succumb to their affliction.  For lucky survivors its probably a lot more because of ongoing treatments/scans/therapies/preventative measures for the rest of our lives.

 

That $33k was in Canada, where most of that stuff would be covered by the government on an ongoing basis. Obviously in the USA costs would be much much higher.