Value418 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 On 6/12/2024 at 9:45 AM, Jaygo said: Better to be lucky than good. Very big bounces in all of these today with the slightest hint of a rate cut. A podcast a while back about the US housing sector really opened my eyes to the potential here. There are millions of homes in shortfall and 10's of millions in need of rehab, gut or rebuild. I think this is a sector you can kind of just bank on to work for another 10plus years. I think an easy way to play it is with Lowes since the capital allocation is quite good. Ive gone smaller and more niche with hardware, lumber, supplies and spray equipment. Reichelue, Sherwin and Site are all pretty good picks too. Jeldwen and masonite for a possible rebound is interesting too. I am a firm believer in the continued global migration to NA. It may be Canada or the US but homes and housing will need to be built at a gdp plus number for a very long time. I also dare say this may be one of the biggest beneficiaries of tech that still goes unrecognised. Yeah robot call centres are cool but have you seen robotic band saws! much cooler, much safer and they dont take smoke breaks. Do you mind sharing the podcast you listened to? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaygo Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 4 hours ago, Value418 said: Do you mind sharing the podcast you listened to? Thank you. Unfortunately I don’t recall exactly what it was. I want to say it was a business breakdowns on one of the major home builders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 5 minutes ago, Jaygo said: Unfortunately I don’t recall exactly what it was. I want to say it was a business breakdowns on one of the major home builders. these ones ? from Wealthtrack. he talks a bit about Toll Brothers and the whole segment. Pretty good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaygo Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Ok now you got me searching. it was business breakdowns or colossus. DR Horton from march 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Roller coasters Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Added Sandvik STO:SAND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Value418 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Perfect. Thank you much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistopheles Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) Added to Autonation. Buyback machine trading at like 10x earnings or something with high returns of capital and a great management team. What more can you ask for? Edited June 14 by Mephistopheles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winjitsu Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 44 minutes ago, Mephistopheles said: Added to Autonation. Buyback machine trading at like 10x earnings or something with high returns of capital and a great management team. What more can you ask for? Margins reverting to pre-covid levels, so not a real 10x. Though it's a great company, and that entire industry, LAD, AN, GPI, ABG, really shows that iron sharpens iron. All making great moves. I'm in GPI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistopheles Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 15 minutes ago, winjitsu said: Margins reverting to pre-covid levels, so not a real 10x. Though it's a great company, and that entire industry, LAD, AN, GPI, ABG, really shows that iron sharpens iron. All making great moves. I'm in GPI If you sub in 2019's pre tax margin's to last year's revenues, the stock is at 12x, so yea a bit over 10x. But currently it's a bit under 10x. I just made up the # 10 bc I was too lazy to check but it's right in that ballpark. Agreed it's a great industry. I have only looked at AN and LAD so far. What do you think of LAD? Not nearly as much in terms of buybacks so that's why I avoided it. What made you buy GPI? Edited June 14 by Mephistopheles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winjitsu Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mephistopheles said: If you sub in 2019's pre tax margin's to last year's revenues, the stock is at 12x, so yea a bit over 10x. But currently it's a bit under 10x. I just made up the # 10 bc I was too lazy to check but it's right in that ballpark. Agreed it's a great industry. I have only looked at AN and LAD so far. What do you think of LAD? Not nearly as much in terms of buybacks so that's why I avoided it. What made you buy GPI? Saw that Greg Alexander (https://www.dataroma.com/m/stock.php?sym=GPI) had been adding. Looking at just the last call transcript, they seem to be the only player w/ growing SSS and maintaining the margins. Their product mix seems better (more Toyota) and geography (more Texas / South). Trading at 8x now, so maybe 10x normalized? Anyways a couple turns cheaper, disciplined growth between buybacks and acquisitions. Edit: Missed your comment about LAD. Just different models, AN more focused on buybacks, whereas LAD more focused on acquiring revenue. LAD did have the pendragon and big UK acquisition so I'm not sure what to make of that. But I think the roll-up model has lots of room. I have some wealthy acquaintance that are in the dealership business and I have no doubt a corporation coming in there with a clear playbook and best practices can rachet up earnings. There's some obvious advantages to size as well for inventory and LAD and AN are the two biggest now. Edited June 14 by winjitsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whensthepaintdry? Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Should Carmart be looked at completely different because of the low income financing they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Roller coasters Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Established a bridgehead on Engcon AB (STO: ENGCON-B) – a Swedish manufacturer of tiltrotators for excavators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 XPS:LSE, UK based pension actuarial services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastwarriors Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 picked up more JOE and nibbling on Fairfax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsx5200 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 My buy limit price got triggered, and caught some baby Berkshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathtime Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 LVMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malmqky Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Hershey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valueventures Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 On 6/14/2024 at 5:06 PM, nsx5200 said: My buy limit price got triggered, and caught some baby Berkshire. Fairfax or Nelnet or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thowed Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Top-up nibbling on FFH and TVK. Still wondering if next 2 weeks will see pre-tax-change sell-offs in companies like these which have such good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizion Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 A bit Coupang (20% position now) and Pluxee, LVMH and a bit more Solvay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saluki Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 3 hours ago, Kizion said: A bit Coupang (20% position now) and Pluxee, LVMH and a bit more Solvay I picked up a few shares of CPNG too, but it's less than 5% for me. The article I posted hasn't been on Yahoo yet, so I suspect more selling when it does, and if it hits the teens again, I may start buying in bigger size. I trimmed some VTS and STNG, and added to some smaller positions that I'm still building. (Tsakos, Kraken, FRPH). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Roller coasters Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) Added a few shares of the crown jewel of the Nordic insurance business: Sampo (HEL:SAMPO). Edited June 17 by Head of Roller coasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooDiligence Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 More HSY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cash_incinerator Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Added a little HSY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValueArb Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 I loaded up on MOMO (Hello Group) last week. Simple thesis is trading at about 80% of net cash, business declining but consistently profitable and some potential for a turnaround, and management scores an A+ on capital allocation. Dividend yield is close to 10% (though dividends are specials one time per year) and it's buying back shares at a good rate. I try to avoid China due to concerns on accuracy of financials and regulation. In this case regulation is the reason sales have been declining so potentially the worst is behind them, and I have more confidence in its cash position and cash flows are real due to the very high dividend payments the last 4 years along with the share repurchases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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