dwy000 Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 5 minutes ago, Castanza said: Asshole sure…But a Dictator because of tariffs? Keep in mind that tariffs and taxation is under the purview of Congress not the President. He only has the power right now thru declaration of a fentanyl emergency. Taking power away from the constitutionally intended group to give it to yourself is kind of a dictatorial move.
Castanza Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 20 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Keep in mind that tariffs and taxation is under the purview of Congress not the President. He only has the power right now thru declaration of a fentanyl emergency. Taking power away from the constitutionally intended group to give it to yourself is kind of a dictatorial move. Congress could have gotten rid of IEEEP many times now. But in reality they have encouraged its use for economic sanctions by Presidents many times now. Congress is also supposed to declare war…yet they haven’t since WWII
dwy000 Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 3 minutes ago, Castanza said: Congress could have gotten rid of IEEEP many times now. But in reality they have encouraged its use for economic sanctions by Presidents many times now. Congress is also supposed to declare war…yet they haven’t since WWII I'm not sure what this has to do with tariffs or a President taking power for himself but Congress approved IEEEP (i know nothing about IEEEP but thats what the immediate response was when googled). And the US has not declared war since WWII.
Spekulatius Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 2 hours ago, Blake Hampton said: A 10% tariff on 20% of your oil consumption can have a larger impact than people might think. The Canadian oil right now has no other outlet though and reducing output it only feasible to a certain degree, so most of the 10% tariffs will be eaten by the Canadian producer in the short and medium term.
Paarslaars Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, Castanza said: So the US is criticized (really just Trump) for breaking 100+ year ally relationships over some likely temporary tariffs. and somehow we jump to…. EU, Japan and other ally nations opening aligning with a dictatorial communist country. If that happens I can’t help but think that’s far worse than imposing tariffs on ally nations. I think emotions are really getting the best of people. Otherwise the world is much more insane than just Donald J Trump; and there are bigger things to worry about. Just my two cents… Well communist VS what seems like a dictatorship right now? It was clear that the informed public as well as the rest of the government was not in favor of these tariffs. I am just proposing the mental exercise, not saying I am in favor. Edited April 13, 2025 by Paarslaars
Sweet Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 6 hours ago, backtothebeach said: She bought a whole bunch of stuff April 3 and 4 according to the screenshot, not even great timing, yet the post text implies she bought right before the restrictions on AAPL and others were lifted on April 12. I mean Trump probably didn't know until an hour before what he was going to do, but she can look 8 days into the future? Why do you repost this shit? Ah I thought these were new purchases on Friday, didn’t check the date.
Sinbius Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, Castanza said: So the US is criticized (really just Trump) for breaking 100+ year ally relationships over some likely temporary tariffs. and somehow we jump to…. EU, Japan and other ally nations opening aligning with a dictatorial communist country. If that happens I can’t help but think that’s far worse than imposing tariffs on ally nations. I think emotions are really getting the best of people. Otherwise the world is much more insane than just Donald J Trump; and there are bigger things to worry about. Just my two cents… ... ...for sure EU and China will get closer...how much closer nobody knows...Trump insulted both countries and they will negotiate better together...art of the deal... Everybody knows that Trump is in a position of weakness not strength...time to run him over...he is a slave of his bond market that can not control... Edited April 13, 2025 by Sinbius
John Hjorth Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 On 3/15/2025 at 2:21 AM, Parsad said: Hi Denmark, can you send us some eggs...be a good neighbor! Oh, you mean the stuff about Greenland...uhh, we were just joking. No eggs...fuck you, we're taking Greenland! https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/14/trump-egg-prices-denmark-greenland Biden is to blame for egg prices. Biden is to blame for the stock market. Biden is to blame for the Ukraine/Russia war. Biden is to blame for Israel/Gaza. Biden is to blame for the horrible Canada/US/Mexico free trade agreement. Biden is to blame for increased unemployment. Biden's even responsible for the hate on against Whitehouse Rainman's Teslas! You guys put a lunatic in charge of your country...not once, but twice! Congratulations! Cheers! -And just for the heck of it and to stir the pot a bit about eggs! [ ] : Here in Denmark, in Bilka [a part of the large Danish retailer Salling Group] they have so many eggs that they actually sell some them!, and eggs are on now on sale, here, up to the start of Easter next week : DKK 1.00 per piece, including 25 per cent VAT! -And for that price one even also scan a QR code on the lid and participate in a competition! - Isen't it just great!
73 Reds Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 12 hours ago, Castanza said: So the US is criticized (really just Trump) for breaking 100+ year ally relationships over some likely temporary tariffs. and somehow we jump to…. EU, Japan and other ally nations opening aligning with a dictatorial communist country. If that happens I can’t help but think that’s far worse than imposing tariffs on ally nations. I think emotions are really getting the best of people. Otherwise the world is much more insane than just Donald J Trump; and there are bigger things to worry about. Just my two cents… +1. If you're investing for the long haul, it's a question of mountains and mole hills. If your time horizon is days, weeks or months good luck to you.
Sinbius Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) 12 hours ago, Castanza said: So the US is criticized (really just Trump).... Do you realize that Trump represent US? ...so when he is trying to bully Canada, China Eu etc...it is US that is doing it... When Trump calls EU parasites...It is US that is calling EU parasites... When he show he is not a trustworthy business partner to make a deal with...it is US that is not a trustworthy partner to make a deal with... Edited April 13, 2025 by Sinbius
Castanza Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 1 minute ago, Sinbius said: Do you realize that Trump represent US right? ...so when he is trying to bully Canada, China Eu etc...it is US that is doing it... When Trump call EU parasites...It is US that is calling EU parasites... When he show he is not a trustworthy business partner to make a deal with...it is US that is not a trustworthy partner to make a deal with... Thats such a narrow shortsighted view. Trump represents Trump. He is the current leader with a single term…remind me how old the US is? Also remind me how the US began? A war with Britain…which eventually became a US ally. If two countries that split from each other and have a war can eventually become allies…I think we can endure 4 years… Some of you guys are letting two weeks alter your entire framework. Who do you think will be elected next? US citizens will be voting for someone to restore relations. 4 years is not a long enough timeline to permanently change anything in the US. I was reading back through some journals and opinions during the times of the Revolutionary war, the Civil War, the Nixon era, the 2018 “trade war” and a few other troubled waters the US has gone through. The opinions and emotional reaction I’m seeing from many on here is nearly identical…. Hell some of you are starting to sound like “British” China CCP loyalists… Trump is temporary….
Sinbius Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 3 minutes ago, Castanza said: …remind me how old the US is? ... Around 284 years... China around 5000 years... And your point is?
Castanza Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 32 minutes ago, Sinbius said: Around 284 years... China around 5000 years... And your point is? Yeah now examine quality of life and wealth generation. Better yet, go read a history book.
Peregrine Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 11 hours ago, Spekulatius said: The Canadian oil right now has no other outlet though and reducing output it only feasible to a certain degree, so most of the 10% tariffs will be eaten by the Canadian producer in the short and medium term. There has been a very large spread on Canadian oil for years now which has now narrowed this year. WCS is now priced at $9 below WTI whereas it has historically been around $15. So it seems clear that the burden is not being born by just Canadian producers - if anything, I expect US refineries to bear most of it - especially in an environment where gasoline demand shrinks. US refineries (namely those in the Midwest) don't have many alternatives outside of Canadian heavy oil and they've been taking advantage of the discounted oil in the form of higher crack spreads for a long time.
Peregrine Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 13 hours ago, Castanza said: So the US is criticized (really just Trump) for breaking 100+ year ally relationships over some likely temporary tariffs. and somehow we jump to…. EU, Japan and other ally nations opening aligning with a dictatorial communist country. If that happens I can’t help but think that’s far worse than imposing tariffs on ally nations. I think emotions are really getting the best of people. Otherwise the world is much more insane than just Donald J Trump; and there are bigger things to worry about. Just my two cents… Yeah, China is an autocratic state but China has never imposed unilateral and arbitrary tariffs on anyone, much less allies, like this. And like it or not, the rest of the world has benefited because China is the manufacturing powerhouse that it is.
Sinbius Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Castanza said: Yeah now examine quality of life and wealth generation. Better yet, go read a history book. American Obesity Rates Are Increasing. Here's How You Can Maintain A Healthy Weight | Henry Ford Health - Detroit, MI About 3 in 4...you are doing great You have to realize that when is time of putting money nobody give a crap of history books...if you are a bad business partner... ...and if you have ever read one history book in your life you would know it is cyclical...that US did well in the past means nothing for where it will stand in the future.... It is like saying Rome conquered the world...he must remain the best and most powerful city in the world.... Edited April 13, 2025 by Sinbius
cwericb Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Sinbius said: Do you realize that Trump represent US? ...so when he is trying to bully Canada, China Eu etc...it is US that is doing it... When Trump calls EU parasites...It is US that is calling EU parasites... When he show he is not a trustworthy business partner to make a deal with...it is US that is not a trustworthy partner to make a deal with... Exactly! And people have looong memories when their country is disrespected and insulted. Calling China a bunch of peasants, Canada the 51st state, the EU a bunch of freeloaders, etc. It is very convenient to try duck responsibility for a country's leadership's decisions. One only has to look at what Japan and Germany suffered during WWII due to their country's leadership. Like it or not, a country is responsible for its leadership's decisions and to believe otherwise would be very naive.
John Hjorth Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) Supplementary information, related to the exemption message yesterday of US tariffs on phones, computers and chips, from commerce secretary Howard Lutnick : Edited April 13, 2025 by John Hjorth
Castanza Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 17 minutes ago, Peregrine said: Yeah, China is an autocratic state but China has never imposed unilateral and arbitrary tariffs on anyone, much less allies, like this. And like it or not, the rest of the world has benefited because China is the manufacturing powerhouse that it is. Mhmm you mean like Covid-19 where global trade came to a complete standstill and killed how many people? 20% more expensive Nike shoes vs that again…way over emotional….
Castanza Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 20 minutes ago, Sinbius said: American Obesity Rates Are Increasing. Here's How You Can Maintain A Healthy Weight | Henry Ford Health - Detroit, MI About 3 in 4...you are doing great You have to realize that when is time of putting money nobody give a crap of history books...if you are a bad business partner... ...and if you have ever read one history book in your life you would know it is cyclical...that US did well in the past means nothing for where it will stand in the future.... It is like saying Rome conquered the world...he must remain the best and most powerful city in the world.... Obesity is a choose….famine is not
Sweet Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 6 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: Supplementary information, related to the exemption message yesterday of US tariffs on phones, computers and chips, from commerce secretary Howard Lutnick : It’s just mayhem. Nobody knows what the tariff policy is going to be in the next few hours nevermind 1 month, year or term.
Sinbius Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 3 minutes ago, Castanza said: Obesity is a choose….famine is not That's why US population should be ashamed of themselves Let's attract more US people on this thread...I have got cheeseburgers!!!!!...it will work...
TwoCitiesCapital Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) Elon Musk may not be a white supremacist, but he is continuing a line of failing to condemn/distance from white supremacists while dog-whistling for them. We have dozens of examples of this under the Trump administration from both times around. I have an autistic brother. He doesn't Nazi salute. Any body with eyes knows what they saw and doesn't need to make excuses about it or blame it on his Asperger's. The man is a certified genius - there is no way that was accidental or unintentional. The movement in no way conveys 'my heart goes out to you' and is dramatically different than the motion he did in Asia for the same line. He knows what he did and he did it intentionally. I don't know his personal beliefs. I can believe the Nazi stuff is overplayed and exaggerated for what he did. But I can also believe a wealthy white man from apartheid South Africa who is claiming genocide against white farmers doing a Nazi salute isn't something that should be so easily dismissed. I also believe there are consequences to your actions. Isn't the Republican party supposed to be the party of individual responsibility and voting with your dollars? It would be nice to see them acknowledge that what is happening is just those sMs principles instead of pretending this a baseless witch-hunt from the left. Edited April 13, 2025 by TwoCitiesCapital
John Hjorth Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sweet said: It’s just mayhem. Nobody knows what the tariff policy is going to be in the next few hours nevermind 1 month, year or term. @Sweet, You may be right, or you may be wrong, because, yes, who knows. Perhaps we can at least can agree on that this whole US tariffs thing was turned into a fully fledged communication disaster. Edited April 13, 2025 by John Hjorth
dwy000 Posted April 13, 2025 Posted April 13, 2025 1 hour ago, Castanza said: Thats such a narrow shortsighted view. Trump represents Trump. He is the current leader with a single term…remind me how old the US is? Also remind me how the US began? A war with Britain…which eventually became a US ally. If two countries that split from each other and have a war can eventually become allies…I think we can endure 4 years… Some of you guys are letting two weeks alter your entire framework. Who do you think will be elected next? US citizens will be voting for someone to restore relations. 4 years is not a long enough timeline to permanently change anything in the US. I was reading back through some journals and opinions during the times of the Revolutionary war, the Civil War, the Nixon era, the 2018 “trade war” and a few other troubled waters the US has gone through. The opinions and emotional reaction I’m seeing from many on here is nearly identical…. Hell some of you are starting to sound like “British” China CCP loyalists… Trump is temporary…. Some of this is definitely true (over reaction and ability to undo some of the damage in a couple of years when he's gone) but the ability to do ling term damage during that period is very, very real. The trade agreements being negotiated between EU, China, Canada, Brazil and other countries to remove historic barriers in response to Trumps tariffs is real and very long lasting. This will reshape trade long after Trump is gone. And the trust that underpinned relationships that was supposed to transcend presidents is also gone. Whether it's trade, NATO, Ukraine, Greenland, Panama, Canada, etc, countries can no longer just assume the US will be a supportive partner. The has very long term impacts. If you slap a friend, yes the physical wound will heal but the relationship is altered forever.
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