cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Just now, cwericb said: Well I guess if you are leading a mob breaking into the Capitol Buillding, then it would be like breaking into sombody's house, don't blame the shooter. Great @cwericb - so her murder was justified. That's all I need to know from you. You finally answered the question. I'm proud of you. It's perfectly OK to shoot an UNARMED protestor. But it's NOT ok to shoot an ARMED protestor. Libtard logic. Thank you!
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, cubsfan said: This is perfect! So the shooting of Ashli Babbitt is NO big deal. She climbed through a window, defenseless - and shot point blank dead. Don't make it so easy for me @TwoCitiesCapital You are living in the past Cubs. SHE LED A MOB BREAKING INTO A FEDERAL BUILDING AND GOT SHOT FOR IT.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: Different rules when you're shooting brown folks Yeah, except the guys chasing Rittenhouse were armed. And you forgot the BEST part: Rittenhouse immediately ran to the Kenosha police and SURRENDERED without even being asked to do so.
Castanza Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Just now, DooDiligence said: LOL In fairness anyone defending the ICU nurse (as I am) should also defend Rittenhouse. Different firearm, maturity levels and legality to a degree (firearm crossed state lines). But the intention was not much different “protection” but the attackers were different (armed citizen thug vs armed thug agent). @cubsfan Babbitt was climbing through a window into a place where members of Congress were being held. Nowhere else to retreat to. It was truly and idiotic move by her and her group and the cop acted accordingly. I think most Jan 6 protesters were there for a rally. But there was undoubtedly a large group there looking for trouble and pushing boundaries. Are you incapable of looking at the situation without bias? Lawful is lawful and unlawful is unlawful. Lots of selective people on here….
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, cwericb said: You are living in the past Cubs. SHE LED A MOB BREAKING INTO A FEDERAL BUILDING AND GOT SHOT FOR IT. You answered the question perfectly @cwericb and just made a total fool of yourself. Killing unarmed protester - NO PROBLEM Killing armed protestor - LIBTARD OUTRAGE Thank you!
lnofeisone Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, flesh said: 1. Let in a zillion people without vetting. 2. Claim there's nothing you can do about it 3. Month's before reelection make a weak plan to solve illegal immigration that won't work. 4. lose election 5. new president all but eliminates illegal immigration in a couple months 6. get mad that .0001% of illegal immigrants deported were legal 7. get mad that the people doing it weren't perfect, not trained properly, when there existed no force to do the job beforehand, in other words it wouldn't be done without them leaving no alternative, IT WOULD not happen at all. 8. Tell everyone to protest and fight, massively infect group think a la Gustave la bon x 1000 every day for months 9. Don't ever tell anyone how to protest safely, nobody dying means no political wins 10. Give illegals safe spaces and money in various forms, incentivize them. 11. Hopefully win elections and give illegals paths to voting for democrats. Aside from all that, these things really are simple. If you want fewer people to die, all the left has to do is say loud and clear, stay 30 feet away from all ice officers while protesting, is this not wise? Why aren't they doing it? Why aren't they doing anything resembling it? Maybe my little brain is too small to understand. Is there some better idea I'm missing to deport millions of illegals in under 4 years. Personally, I don't care if they all are deported. I think it's reasonable to deport all criminals and quasi criminals, plus another million as deterrence, I'd like to see it in the news to some extent ongoing forever so that the rest of the world doesn't forget the message. I'd like to see indirect strategies implemented so that there's a slow trickle of deportations forever, by police, through govt paperwork, etc. Additionally, can we finally get a real bi partisan plan together to prevent this nonsense from happening in the future? If we don't, I wonder why.... The hitler stuff is just weird, I'm seeing more anti semitic noises from the left since gaza/israel than I've ever heard from the right. It's all over college campuses, meanwhile I hear a small insignificant minority on the right, like Nick Fuentes. I know Bill Maher and Sam Harris, Jews, have been harping on this forever. Sam is concerned about his two girls going to college and being safe when they come of age soon. I'm all for ICE doing their job and removing illegal aliens. I'm for stronger borders. I'm pro 1A and 2A. But these two ICE shootings are incredibly bad. Alex Pritti is especially gross if you bothered to watch the videos. He was helping someone get up (and prior to that video taping), he got pepper-sprayed, at no point did he brandish his gun (it was safely secured in his holster), he got disarmed, he was on his 4s, so in no way was he able to pose a threat, and he gets 10-14 shots unloaded into him. Couple that with some asshole ICE agent clapping in celebration after the shots and another 2 ICE agents frantically search his body and ask "where is the gun" twice...come on @cubsfan @73 Reds @flesh - this is a bad shooting. This was wrong and gross. It doesn't help that Alex is a sympathetic victim. He was a VA ICU nurse helping vets. Not some psycho purple-haired unemployed Karen. Stop it with your Ashli Babbit comparing. She was part of a mob trying to get through that door. Ashli and all the rioters who entered the Capitol on Jan 6th are traitors. If we had Trump ICE dealing with that actual riot, we'd have 100s of dead rioters. These two situations are nowhere near the same. Edited January 25 by lnofeisone grammar
lnofeisone Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cubsfan said: You answered the question perfectly @cwericb and just made a total fool of yourself. Killing unarmed protester - NO PROBLEM Killing armed protestor - LIBTARD OUTRAGE Thank you! I love how you freeze and take what you want. Let me help you correct this: Killing unarmed protester who was part of an armed mob trying to break through a door while also trespassing - NO PROBLEM Killing armed protestor who at no point brandished his weapon and was helping someone get up and then got pepper sprayed and shot 10-14 times in his back - LIBTARD OUTRAGE I'm no libtard. I am an American, and I'm outraged. Edited January 25 by lnofeisone grammar
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: I love how you freeze and take what you want. Let me help you correct this: Killing unarmed protester who was part of an armed mob trying to break through a door while also trespassing - NO PROBLEM Killing armed protestor who at no point brandished his weapon and was helping someone get up and then got pepper sprayed and shot 10-14 times in his back - LIBTARD OUTRAGE I'm no libtard. I am an American, and I'm outraged. You're wasting your breath. Dude's a birthright citizen and a ladder puller upper.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Castanza said: In fairness anyone defending the ICU nurse (as I am) should also defend Rittenhouse. Different firearm, maturity levels and legality to a degree (firearm crossed state lines). But the intention was not much different “protection” but the attackers were different (armed citizen thug vs armed thug agent). @cubsfan Babbitt was climbing through a window into a place where members of Congress were being held. Nowhere else to retreat to. It was truly and idiotic move by her and her group and the cop acted accordingly. I think most Jan 6 protesters were there for a rally. But there was undoubtedly a large group there looking for trouble and pushing boundaries. Are you incapable of looking at the situation without bias? What kind of stupidity is this? Who is defending what Ashli did? Not me. Does a defenseless unarmed woman deserve to be shot for climbing through a window? Or is just perfectly ok to use "excessive force" to set an example for all the protestors? Talk about biased and ridiculous logic.
Gregmal Posted January 25 Posted January 25 12 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: I'm all for ICE doing their job and removing illegal aliens. I'm for stronger borders. I'm pro 1A and 2A. But these two ICE shootings are incredibly bad. Alex Pritti is especially gross if you bothered to watch the videos. He was helping someone get up (and prior to that video taping), he got pepper-sprayed, at no point did he brandish his gun (it was safely secured in his holster), he got disarmed, he was on his 4s, so in no way was he able to pose a threat, and he gets 10-14 shots unloaded into him. Yea, this one is very different from Renee Good or Ashley Babbit. Probably gonna get those guys jail time and cost taxpayers a bunch of millions
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 12 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: I'm all for ICE doing their job and removing illegal aliens. I'm for stronger borders. I'm pro 1A and 2A. But these two ICE shootings are incredibly bad. Alex Pritti is especially gross if you bothered to watch the videos. He was helping someone get up (and prior to that video taping), he got pepper-sprayed, at no point did he brandish his gun (it was safely secured in his holster), he got disarmed, he was on his 4s, so in no way was he able to pose a threat, and he gets 10-14 shots unloaded into him. Couple that with some asshole ICE agent clapping in celebration after the shots and another 2 ICE agents frantically search his body and ask "where is the gun" twice...come on @cubsfan @73 Reds @flesh - this is a bad shooting. This was wrong and gross. It doesn't help that Alex is a sympathetic victim. He was a VA ICU nurse helping vets. Not some psycho purple-haired unemployed Karen. Stop it with your Ashli Babbit comparing. She was part of a mob trying to get through that door. Ashli and all the rioters who entered the Capitol on Jan 6th are traitors. If we had Trump ICE dealing with that actual riot, we'd have 100s of dead rioters. These two situations are nowhere near the same. I'm happy to put you down as brainless logic. Kill unarmed defenseless protestor - perfectly ok Kill ARMED protestor - outrage. Liberal logic: Kill Trump supporter - no problem at all!
dwy000 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 35 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: No, I am not. What I am saying is that just as you don't cross the street on a red light, you should follow common sense. Getting into a fight with police is never a good idea. Bringing a gun to a protest is never a good idea. Getting into a fight with police when armed is on par with crossing the highway across eight lanes of traffic. He didnt get into a fight with police. He had a legal gun on him (put away, never out) and was filming. You want people to sit home and obey.
TwoCitiesCapital Posted January 25 Posted January 25 20 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Yeah, except the guys chasing Rittenhouse were armed. And you forgot the BEST part: Rittenhouse immediately ran to the Kenosha police and SURRENDERED without even being asked to do so. The guys chasing Alex Peretti were armed. And at no point did he touch his. And he was defending a woman with his body before being dragged off of, pinned to the ground, and executed by those who chased him. And yet Kyle Rittenhouse gets to be a guest speaker at Turning Point USA and this guy is an "assassin"? Like I said, different rules when you're shooting brown folks.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: I love how you freeze and take what you want. Let me help you correct this: Killing unarmed protester who was part of an armed mob trying to break through a door while also trespassing - NO PROBLEM Killing armed protestor who at no point brandished his weapon and was helping someone get up and then got pepper sprayed and shot 10-14 times in his back - LIBTARD OUTRAGE I'm no libtard. I am an American, and I'm outraged. This is so beautiful how you reveal yourself. It's PERFECTLY ok to kill an UNARMED protestor to set an example for the others. It's just collateral damage. It's NOT a crime - a message needed to be sent to Trump supporters. That's all I need to know about libtards.
TwoCitiesCapital Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 6 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Kill unarmed protestor who was part of an angry mob who stormed the Capitol and attacked officers and was given verbal warnings - perfectly ok Execute an ARMED protestor from behind whose crimes were filming thugs and having the gall to defend a woman being assaulted by thugs while never touching his own weapon - outrage. Fixed it. Edited January 25 by TwoCitiesCapital
lnofeisone Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Just now, cubsfan said: This is so beautiful how you reveal yourself. It's PERFECTLY ok to kill an UNARMED protestor to set an example for the others. It's just collateral damage. It's NOT a crime - a message needed to be sent to Trump supporters. That's all I need to know about libtards. An unarmed protestor who was part of a group that was armed and was the first one to approach the police officer? Honestly, I'd be fine if Capitol police shot every single person who entered the Capitol on Jan 6th. But cooler minds prevailed, and the situation was miraculously de-escalated. This guy (whose identity you don't know, whether he was a Trump supporter or not) was senselessly shot. This was a bad shoot. You can fight your fight and deny it but you'll be on the wrong side of history with this one.
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 === https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/politics/michigan-democrats-call-for-statehouse-firearm-ban-accountability-of-lawmakers/69-d29e4982-3dea-4cc7-afea-c50d99d9d097 === The evolution from cosplayer to actual NAZI Quack, quack motherfuckers
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, lnofeisone said: An unarmed protestor who was part of a group that was armed and was the first one to approach the police officer? Honestly, I'd be fine if Capitol police shot every single person who entered the Capitol on Jan 6th. Of course you're ok with it! Shoot all the unarmed Trump protestors - they deserve it! NO excessive force applies to the shooting of a defenseless protestors if they support Trump. I just love liberal logic! You're right up there with @cwericb
SharperDingaan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 39 minutes ago, LC said: Gotta love a good ole' protection racket, ya know? Merely the other side of the same coin in many cases; the angels just wear better suits SD
lnofeisone Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Of course you're ok with it! Shoot all the unarmed Trump protestors - they deserve it! NO excessive force applies to the shooting of a defenseless protestors if they support Trump. I just love liberal logic! You're right up there with @cwericb dude what you talking about? Jan 6th that entered the Capitol were armed. They had firearms and other items that were used as weapons. You can watch your beloved Ashli Babbit shooting and see there is a guy with a crowbar. Alex was doing nothing like Ashli Babbit. And he was murdered. Ashli was trying to break through a barricade as part of a mob where people on the other side of the barricade had no way to retreat. She was trespassing. I love you MAGA logic that somehow Jan 6thers were innocent bystanders who were steamrolled by the police. Reality is that every single one of the Jan 6thers that entered the Capitol are traitors. And should be treated as such.
TwoCitiesCapital Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 3 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: dude what you talking about? Jan 6th that entered the Capitol were armed. They had firearms and other items that were used as weapons. You can watch your beloved Ashli Babbit shooting and see there is a guy with a crowbar. Alex was doing nothing like Ashli Babbit. And he was murdered. Ashli was trying to break through a barricade as part of a mob where people on the other side of the barricade had no way to retreat. She was trespassing. I love you MAGA logic that somehow Jan 6thers were innocent bystanders who were steamrolled by the police. Reality is that every single one of the Jan 6thers that entered the Capitol are traitors. And should be treated as such. They all got pardoned - because that's what fascists do. They reward loyalty and punish disloyalty. Has nothing to do with crime/laws/circumstances/actual threat Edited January 25 by TwoCitiesCapital
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 20 minutes ago, lnofeisone said: You can watch your beloved Ashli Babbit shooting and see there is a guy with a crowbar. She was trespassing. Did you actually flunk logic class?? You just said - Honestly, I'd be fine if Capitol police shot every single person who entered the Capitol on Jan 6th. You admit that Ashli Babbitt was unarmed. But someone near her had a crowbar. Therefore it is perfectly OK to shoot to kill her when she posed no threat to law enforcement. And that would not be "excessive force". You really are the textbook definition of a fascist: use violence to remove the perceived "undesirables".
John D. Rockefeller Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Somehow in this whole discussion one point was seemingly lost: What happened to the Epstein files? Shouldn't they have been released by now?
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 nazi sympathizers when you call them nazi's. Every, damn, time.
lnofeisone Posted January 25 Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Did you actually flunk logic class?? You just said - Honestly, I'd be fine if Capitol police shot every single person who entered the Capitol on Jan 6th. You admit that Ashli Babbitt was unarmed. But someone near her had a crowbar. Therefore it is perfectly OK to shoot to kill her when she posed no threat to law enforcement. And that would not be "excessive force". You really are the textbook definition of a fascist: use violence to remove the perceived "undesirables". She was part of a mob and trespassing. So she is already committing a crime. She also tried charging through the opening, committing another crime. And all of that before the police engaged her. Compare this to Alex Pritti. He did none of this. Everything he did was lawful. And he got executed. Don't forget ICE agents clapping in celebration AND then two of them caught on a hot mic moment asking "where is the gun" twice. Seriously, answer this. Did you watch the videos of this shooting? Specifically, 3 angles. The main one, the one from the woman in the pink coat, and the aftermath. That's really all I want to know because I honestly can't imagine anyone rational thinking that this shooting was OK. Seriously, I don't think I have the right color crayons to keep explaining this.
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