dealraker Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I guess all our Trumpers are all in with his Walz assassination of Hortman claims. We are now down on diapers age special needs level. Trump's playing golf; Rubio's running Venezuela...but says he has no clue as to what's up in Venezuela. All is well. Big oil to the rescue!
73 Reds Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Just now, dealraker said: I guess all our Trumpers are all in with his Walz assassination of Hortman claims. We are now down on diapers age special needs level. Trump's playing golf; Rubio's running Venezuela...but says he has no clue as to what's up in Venezuela. All is well. Big oil to the rescue! LOL. Feigned outrage as sincere as a $3 bill. It is kind of sad watching the Left literally dismantle itself. We still need two Parties to function properly as a Country but each Party requires some degree of moral clarity. Maybe a guy like Fetterman can gain traction but not holding my breath.
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dealraker said: I guess all our Trumpers are all in with his Walz assassination of Hortman claims. We are now down on diapers age special needs level. Trump's playing golf; Rubio's running Venezuela...but says he has no clue as to what's up in Venezuela. All is well. Big oil to the rescue! https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities/2026/01/05/tim-walz-drop-out-minnesota-governor-race Quote Tim Walz announced Monday he will not run for reelection Your boy Walz dropped out...guess the fraud in his state must be insane. This clown could have been VP. He's truly a clueless guy who has no business running anything, but somehow he was good enough for Harris to choose as a running mate. 12 minutes ago, Spooky said: How is the US today any different from Russia now? You have ceded the moral high ground as well as the rule of law. You have given permission to those leaders willing to take this kind of violent action into their own hands and created a more lawless world. The U.S. brought a guy who was indicted in 2020, someone the Biden administration put a bounty on, to NYC for a court case. The rule of law says that Maduro was indicted and needs to be tried. Even Europeans did not recognize Maduro as the rightful President of VZ. The rest of the government is in place in VZ. There are currently no American boots on the ground in VZ. Comparisons to Russia invasion of Ukraine are laughable. Back to your armchair analysis Edited January 5 by Dalal.Holdings
Libs Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Spooky said: How is the US today any different from Russia now? You have ceded the moral high ground as well as the rule of law. You have given permission to those leaders willing to take this kind of violent action into their own hands and created a more lawless world. Right, Putin was waiting for us to 'give permission' to him before making his next move. Like he gives a #$%^ about that stuff. What 'permission' was he waiting for before attacking Georgia, and Ukraine?
Spooky Posted January 5 Posted January 5 59 minutes ago, Dalal.Holdings said: The U.S. brought a guy who was indicted in 2020, someone the Biden administration put a bounty on, to NYC for a court case. The rule of law says that Maduro was indicted and needs to be tried. Even Europeans did not recognize Maduro as the rightful President of VZ. lol it’s going to be embarrassing when the DOJ can’t secure a conviction in this case in New York. The indictment / extradition has nothing to do with the Venezuelan election. Now a US indictment is enough to rendition a head of state? Doesn’t make much sense. The hypocrisy is insane - Maduro is a drug trafficker but we pardoned the former head of Honduras who was found guilty of trafficking cocaine to the US. There is no coherent ideology / policy behind the US’ actions anymore. It is just the whims of a handful of people.
Spooky Posted January 5 Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, Libs said: Right, Putin was waiting for us to 'give permission' to him before making his next move. Like he gives a #$%^ about that stuff. What 'permission' was he waiting for before attacking Georgia, and Ukraine? this is just it. Before you could make the argument that Russia’s invasion was illegal under international law and they violated the sovereignty of another country. Now the US just did the same thing.
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, Spooky said: lol it’s going to be embarrassing when the DOJ can’t secure a conviction in this case in New York. The indictment / extradition has nothing to do with the Venezuelan election. Now a US indictment is enough to rendition a head of state? Doesn’t make much sense. The hypocrisy is insane - Maduro is a drug trafficker but we pardoned the former head of Honduras who was found guilty of trafficking cocaine to the US. There is no coherent ideology / policy behind the US’ actions anymore. It is just the whims of a handful of people. If the U.S. cannot convict on the drug charges, we can give him back to the people of Venezuela to try him on his many other crimes against them. I am sure they will be happy to take up the charge once a truly legitimate government is in charge of the country.
Spooky Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Dalal.Holdings said: If the U.S. cannot convict on the drug charges, we can give him back to the people of Venezuela to try him on his many other crimes against them. I am sure they will be happy to take up the charge once a truly legitimate government is in charge of the country. I hope you are right but it doesn't seem like there is any kind of plan to establish a legitimate government in VZ.
Spooky Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Some more random thoughts on the topic - the US subscribing to the theory of "spheres of influence" is giving the game away to Russia and China. This is what they have wanted for a long time. At one point China proposed a G2 with the US where they make all the decisions related to Asia together. The US rejected that then since it is better for the US and the world not to make decisions over small countries' heads. Before the US' "sphere of influence" was the whole world - based on appealing to values that every human on the planet wanted. Also, the far right / alt right, however you want to label it, is always going on about immigration destroying Western civilization. Meanwhile they are degrading the true foundations of Western civilization which are democratic capitalism, the rule of law and individual rights.
Spooky Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Good article from Greg Ip: https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/venezuela-ushers-in-the-era-of-trumps-donroe-doctrine-61f9b080?st=hYWjfj&reflink=article_copyURL_share
dealraker Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Dalal.Holdings said: https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities/2026/01/05/tim-walz-drop-out-minnesota-governor-race Your boy Walz dropped out...guess the fraud in his state must be insane. This clown could have been VP. He's truly a clueless guy who has no business running anything, but somehow he was good enough for Harris to choose as a running mate. The U.S. brought a guy who was indicted in 2020, someone the Biden administration put a bounty on, to NYC for a court case. The rule of law says that Maduro was indicted and needs to be tried. Even Europeans did not recognize Maduro as the rightful President of VZ. The rest of the government is in place in VZ. There are currently no American boots on the ground in VZ. Comparisons to Russia invasion of Ukraine are laughable. Back to your armchair analysis You guys crack me up. I taunt a tad about Trump and you all, that's all of you, think I'm a supporter of someone I don't give a holy shit about.
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 47 minutes ago, Spooky said: I hope you are right but it doesn't seem like there is any kind of plan to establish a legitimate government in VZ. What was the plan in Libya? Should I remind you that the West basically fed Gaddafi to a mob where he was beaten to death? Is that form of justice more in line with "rules and laws" and a "rules based global order"? At least Maduro gets his day in court and is alive... Remind you that the Libya intervention was led by Europe/France/Obama/Hilary Clinton. Here is the result: https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/the-scandal-of-a-slave-market-in-libya Quote In 2017, the shocking revelation of a slave market operating in Libya, where individuals were auctioned for as little as $400, drew widespread condemnation. Footage depicting the dehumanizing treatment of these individuals—showing their inability to speak or resist—mirrored the horrors of the transatlantic slave trade. This horrific situation, reminiscent of the harrowing depictions in the novel "Roots," highlighted the vulnerability of individuals in the face of systemic injustice and the absence of legal protections (Human Trafficking Search, 2023).
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, dealraker said: You guys crack me up. I taunt a tad about Trump and you all, that's all of you, think I'm a supporter of someone I don't give a holy shit about. I'm rereading your post full of straw men and gibberish and wondering why I wasted time responding to it in the first place: Quote I guess all our Trumpers are all in with his Walz assassination of Hortman claims. We are now down on diapers age special needs level. Trump's playing golf; Rubio's running Venezuela...but says he has no clue as to what's up in Venezuela. All is well. Big oil to the rescue!
dealraker Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, Dalal.Holdings said: I'm rereading your post full of straw men and gibberish and wondering why I wasted time responding to it in the first place: Dal-Dal-Dal gibberish is all that politics is. Play or abstain, but don't pretend you're the one that isn't full of shit.
Spooky Posted January 5 Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, Dalal.Holdings said: What was the plan in Libya? Should I remind you that the West basically fed Gaddafi to a mob where he was beaten to death? Is that form of justice more in line with "rules and laws" and a "rules based global order"? At least Maduro gets his day in court and is alive... Remind you that the Libya intervention was led by Europe/France/Obama/Hilary Clinton. Here is the result: https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/the-scandal-of-a-slave-market-in-libya I don't know, or care. Taking out Gaddafi turned out to be a mistake. Doesn't make what is happening now the correct course of action.
cubsfan Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Spooky said: lol it’s going to be embarrassing when the DOJ can’t secure a conviction in this case in New York. The indictment / extradition has nothing to do with the Venezuelan election. Now a US indictment is enough to rendition a head of state? Doesn’t make much sense. The hypocrisy is insane - Maduro is a drug trafficker but we pardoned the former head of Honduras who was found guilty of trafficking cocaine to the US. There is no coherent ideology / policy behind the US’ actions anymore. It is just the whims of a handful of people. That legal challenge was tried and met with Manuel Noriega of Panama. Head of State that was a drug lord. It will be the same defense. Didn't work for Noriega - unlikely to work with Maduro.
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 23 minutes ago, dealraker said: Dal-Dal-Dal gibberish is all that politics is. Play or abstain, but don't pretend you're the one that isn't full of shit. Everyone: Let's discuss Trump snatching Maduro in Venezuela pretty much flawlessly @dealraker : Some unintelligible gibberish about "Walz assassination of Hortman claims". "down on diapers age special needs level." "Trump's playing golf". Classic straw man drool descending into irrelevant/unintelligible gibberish. Edited January 5 by Dalal.Holdings
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 18 minutes ago, Spooky said: I don't know, or care. Taking out Gaddafi turned out to be a mistake. Doesn't make what is happening now the correct course of action. Of course, but the people who are all upset about Maduro today were cheering on & partaking in the intervention in Libya ! So much with "respecting sovereignty of a nation". Pure hypocrisy. If the operation over the weekend were conducted by a Dem president, they'd all be celebrating of course !
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 This stuff is really amusing... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/world/americas/biden-bounty-nicolas-maduro.html Quote The Biden administration said on Friday that it was offering $25 million for information leading to the arrest of Nicolás Maduro, the president of Venezuela, after he assumed a third term in office despite evidence suggesting that he lost Venezuela’s recent election. The final act of the (failed) Biden Presidency was increasing the bounty to $25 Million for the arrest or capture of Maduro...
Gregmal Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Oh just wait, next the usual suspects will claim Trump only did it for the reward money lmfao
Mephistopheles Posted January 5 Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Oh just wait, next the usual suspects will claim Trump only did it for the reward money lmfao LOL that cracked me up. Would be hilarious if he tries to claim the $25m, something we can’t put past him either
Gregmal Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, dealraker said: You guys crack me up. I taunt a tad about Trump and you all, that's all of you, think I'm a supporter of someone I don't give a holy shit about. Welcome to the club. Ive recounted many times how outside of watching MSNBC for an hour or so the night of elections, I've had zero to do with any MSM news, especially the usual suspects, in at least 15 years. These retards then justify their insanity by "you just regurgitate Faux News talking points"....or how, you're in a cult because no matter what he does you vote for him....even though Ive mentioned a bunch...didnt vote last election!....or my favorite...how the only issues I look at as having value to me, are safety, taxes and reducing government abuses and overreach.....to which they go "you voted for Trump and are in a cult"......then we ask what they "stand for", and get the usual drooling retard dialogue about how they dont support xyz(Maduro being the recent flavor of the week)....but then support (insert current unthinkable flavor of the week)....pure shitshow it is! Edited January 5 by Gregmal
dealraker Posted January 5 Posted January 5 31 minutes ago, Dalal.Holdings said: Everyone: Let's discuss Trump snatching Maduro in Venezuela pretty much flawlessly @dealraker : Some unintelligible gibberish about "Walz assassination of Hortman claims". "down on diapers age special needs level." "Trump's playing golf". Classic straw man drool descending into irrelevant/unintelligible gibberish. Dal my posts are obviously fishing for the fragile, and I successfully caught one. Enough.
Dalal.Holdings Posted January 5 Posted January 5 23 minutes ago, dealraker said: Dal my posts are obviously fishing for the fragile, and I successfully caught one. Enough. Sure you did. I rarely spend my time in this thread. It's always amusing to check in when a major event occurs though to laugh at some of the takes and I have not been disappointed this time.
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