Gregmal Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 4 hours ago, Sweet said: I think there is quite a large difference between being patriotic and being (for example) a Nazi. For the past decade most of these people have legit thought anyone voting Republican was a nazi/fascist. They’re totally brainwashed.
Sweet Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 43 minutes ago, Gregmal said: For the past decade most of these people have legit thought anyone voting Republican was a nazi/fascist. They’re totally brainwashed. Yep. Don’t think Spek is one of them - could be wrong. However you can’t kill patriotism and then scratch your head wondering why nobody wants to fight for the country.
dealraker Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 40 minutes ago, Gregmal said: For the past decade most of these people have legit thought anyone voting Republican was a nazi/fascist. They’re totally brainwashed. Really? I didn't vote Republican so I think you and Cubs are Nazi/fascist? Really? How about I didn't vote Republican because I think Donald Trump is a worthless piece of fucking fake shit?
John Hjorth Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dealraker said: Really? I didn't vote Republican so I think you and Cubs are Nazi/fascist? Really? How about I didn't vote Republican because I think Donald Trump is a worthless piece of fucking fake shit? *chuckle*s - Haha! - - +1! Edited December 13, 2025 by John Hjorth
Sweet Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 6 minutes ago, dealraker said: Really? I didn't vote Republican so I think you and Cubs are Nazi/fascist? Really? How about I didn't vote Republican because I think Donald Trump is a worthless piece of fucking fake shit? Pretty sure you aren’t living under a rock, so you really should know this stuff: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/393049-the-strategic-blunder-of-trump-as-hitler/amp/
Gregmal Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 18 minutes ago, dealraker said: Really? I didn't vote Republican so I think you and Cubs are Nazi/fascist? Really? How about I didn't vote Republican because I think Donald Trump is a worthless piece of fucking fake shit? I don’t really consider you part of “them”.
John Hjorth Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 6 minutes ago, Sweet said: Pretty sure you aren’t living under a rock, so you really should know this stuff: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/393049-the-strategic-blunder-of-trump-as-hitler/amp/ @Sweet, LOL!, Are you really, - and by which logic? -, using, or trying to apply the stuff on the White House website as source in this exchange with Charlie [ @dealraker ]? -Are you kidding?
Jay Rent Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 Calling Trump a fascist was a huge political miscalculation by Biden. The reason the real Antifa has been quiet in his second term is because the skinheads for the most part have also been quiet. Calling him a fascist allows him to respond by calling all progressives Antifa. Go after Trump for having an unqualified leader of DHS, hiring a bunch of non trained agents acting as thugs misrepresenting the constitution, not acting like real police, under the pretense that America is invaded by a social class of poor criminals and predators. Don't forget the Central Park 5 still have a defamation lawsuit (the irony) against Trump. Trump has been going after those not in his social class for years under false pretenses.
cubsfan Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 I hereby apologize for being a Christian, conservative, straight, white male! Shoot me already!
Sweet Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 45 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: @Sweet, LOL!, Are you really, - and by which logic? -, using, or trying to apply the stuff on the White House website as source in this exchange with Charlie [ @dealraker ]? -Are you kidding? That’s not the White House website John! If we are going to start picking at logic, let us start with Dealraker pretending not to understands the meaning of Greg’s post.
Sweet Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 31 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I hereby apologize for being a Christian, conservative, straight, white male! Shoot me already! Thought you were mixed race cubs?
Gregmal Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 11 minutes ago, Sweet said: Thought you were mixed race cubs? Non Mexican, non black minorities are basically considered “whites” by the lefties. Just ask Asians, Indians, and Jews…
John Hjorth Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 3 minutes ago, Sweet said: That’s not the White House website John! ... @Sweet, Thank you for calling me out on the matter at hand, correcting me. I hereby stand corrected! - - - o 0 o - - - An opinion piece on The Hill as a source however does not change that, that much, with regard to source critism, because of this . In short the diffenciencies are very similar, -if you get what I mean!
cubsfan Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Sweet said: Thought you were mixed race cubs? I am, I should have said, I "identify" as white....as this was long, long before everyone took advantage of their minority statuses to collect favors from the government. If I had been smart about it - I probably could have gotten into Harvard! I consider myself the melting pot American, where race is incidental to my identity, not the most important thing of all time. Edited December 13, 2025 by cubsfan
dealraker Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 47 minutes ago, Sweet said: That’s not the White House website John! If we are going to start picking at logic, let us start with Dealraker pretending not to understands the meaning of Greg’s post. I would state that my reply was objecting to the pretense of Greg's post.
John Hjorth Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 9 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I am, I should have said, I "identify" as white....as this was long, long before everyone took advantage of their minority statuses to collect favors from the government. f I had been smart about it - I probably could have gotten into Harvard! I consider myself the melting pot American, where race is incidental to my identity, not the most important thing of all time. @Sweet, , - - - o 0 o - - - Let me just say here, that, if I lived the same place as Mike [ @cubsfan ], [Chicago], we - Mike [ @cubsfan] and I, would likely - opinion wise - be two separate parts, but originating of the same piece! The ovarial lottery just did not turn out that way!
Spekulatius Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 Ouch! https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/no-accountability-residents-demand-action-repeat-offenders-drive-up-crime-charlotte/NTJDQ7ARVZBYRKHYHTOCU4VY4U/ Quote They mentioned a 15-year-old who had been arrested 111 times since August of 2023. The arrests included 55 car thefts and stealing from cars 45 times. At one point, police found multiple guns on the teen and took a phone as evidence. They say they found various Google searches on it, including questions about killing an officer and capitol murder. Police say the 15-year-old was most recently released again in September.
Spekulatius Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) Will be interesting to get a feel for the lay of the land when I travel back to Germany (first time since 2022) this weekend. It’s easy to read the news but hard to get a feel for the sentiment when you live far away. I have a feeling that Merz is failing at reform. The Rentenreform (pension reform) vote was one example. he was held hostage by the SPD because he did not negotiate with the other parties (Linke, AFD). Due to self imposed ideological restrictions. If you have an only one party to go to, then you get held hostage by them I think the prudent thing would have been to talk to all of them SLD, lind and AFD and see where you get your votes to get the thing done with the least compromised (from Merz perspective) regardless of ideological constrains (Brandmauer). Of course the SPD would have cried uncle but they would also realize that their leverage is limited next time. Ironically, the Linke withheld votes which allowed the votes to pass which already tells you who won. It’s a win for pensioners but a loss for the young people who need to pay for all this. But what do I know…. Edited December 13, 2025 by Spekulatius
changegonnacome Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 2nd grand jury refuses to indict New York AG Letitia James https://abcnews.go.com/US/2nd-time-grand-jury-refuses-indict-new-york/story?id=128279779 Comey/Letitia indictments didn't last long!!!........you know two things are clear by now both good..... - first Trump & the folks around him are kinda incompetent wannabe autocrats and seem to fail consistently on bureaucratic procedural rigor (a) cause this isn't the A-team - the AG Bondi went to Florida's fifth best law school and a firmly rooted 3rd tier instituation nationally but (b) there seems to be little strategy going on from the WH just last minute truthsocial impulses of El Prez (see his DM to Bondi that ended up on his feed on TruthSocial).....his underlings then try to rush through these whims to please him making all manner of errors....... - the second is even more important..... the institutions - the judiciary and citizen grand juries call bullshit on bullshit even if that bullshit is coming directly from the Oval Office....quite unprecedented to see TWO separate Grand Juries now reject an indictment against James. We are very lucky to live in a county like this....even if the President of United States wants you indicted and locked up he cant get it done if there's no merit to the case!
cubsfan Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 45 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: 2nd grand jury refuses to indict New York AG Letitia James https://abcnews.go.com/US/2nd-time-grand-jury-refuses-indict-new-york/story?id=128279779 Comey/Letitia indictments didn't last long!!!........you know two things are clear by now both good..... - first Trump & the folks around him are kinda incompetent wannabe autocrats and seem to fail consistently on bureaucratic procedural rigor (a) cause this isn't the A-team - the AG Bondi went to Florida's fifth best law school and a firmly rooted 3rd tier instituation nationally but (b) there seems to be little strategy going on from the WH just last minute truthsocial impulses of El Prez (see his DM to Bondi that ended up on his feed on TruthSocial).....his underlings then try to rush through these whims to please him making all manner of errors....... - the second is even more important..... the institutions - the judiciary and citizen grand juries call bullshit on bullshit even if that bullshit is coming directly from the Oval Office....quite unprecedented to see TWO separate Grand Juries now reject an indictment against James. We are very lucky to live in a county like this....even if the President of United States wants you indicted and locked up he cant get it done if there's no merit to the case! Oh, yeah, right -- Trump is so "authoritarian" and Biden never abused the law: - The Biden regime had such clean hands with 5 phony indictments to lock up their political adversary Trump that they feared the most. -Then, of course, Biden tried to REMOVE Trump from the ballot in 25 states. Who did Trump remove from the ballot?? - Biden indicted Trump for taking classified documents and SWAT raided Melania's underwear drawer. Biden had classified documents for years. Are you expecting Trump to indict Biden and raid Jill Biden's underwear drawer?? Shit, even Biden's Special Counsel Robert Hur flat out said Biden is guilty. - Trump administration has obeyed every single injunction the lower courts have thrown against him, unlike Biden. - On final legal appeal, Trump's record in the Supreme Court is now is 22 wins vs 2 losses.
Dalal.Holdings Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) 19 hours ago, Spekulatius said: LOl, Zelenskyy has balls. Unlike Putin who is 30 ft away You realize that 55k students in a country of 84M people are not a whole lot. As an investor you should not about the concept of base rates. i bet I one could mobilize 550k students in America to demonstrate for the same thing. Or 5.5M for the White House to get painted in Rainbow colors. 55k in a country of 84M would be a ~220k sized protest in the USA. Given that this was a rally of students (probably mostly aged 15-18) and does not include adults of all ages, it seems sizable given the narrow demographic of the protest. Also noted to be the largest student protest in years. It is encouraging though that the leaders are not buying it and following in that German tradition of reminding the students about the rules: Quote Defense Minister Boris Pistorius, who aspires to build the strongest army in Europe, ridiculed the protest in a video posted on social media. Meanwhile, the Berlin Senate sent a letter to the school administration reminding them that the strikes would be considered unexcused absences and deployed several hundred police officers to control the demonstration, resulting in at least one arrest. Also, there is nothing wrong with a little patriotism. Right now, a bunch of folks are flying Ukrainian flags and chanting “Slava Ukraini” to defend the homeland. Seems like that form of patriotism has helped Ukraine immensely in the war. Having a national identity is important for rallying people to defend the country. “If something cannot go on forever, it will stop”. Japan, Germany not having independent defense capabilities cannot go on forever, even despite their history. It’s been 80 years. Certainly 500 years from now you can’t expect them to remain disarmed. As Ukraine has shown, if you don’t have defense, there will be guys like Putin who will come and take things from you. Edited December 13, 2025 by Dalal.Holdings
Dalal.Holdings Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, Spekulatius said: I think the prudent thing would have been to talk to all of them SLD, lind and AFD and see where you get your votes to get the thing done with the least compromised (from Merz perspective) regardless of ideological constrains (Brandmauer). Of course the SPD would have cried uncle but they would also realize that their leverage is limited next time. Ironically, the Linke withheld votes which allowed the votes to pass which already tells you who won. It’s a win for pensioners but a loss for the young people who need to pay for all this. But what do I know…. This is basically what Vance said in Munich that upset so many — that there should not be firewalls that prevent you from working with a certain party. However, given Germany’s fear of right wingers due to its history, they have overcorrected to the left (along with much of Europe). In the EU you recently saw Ursula finally break the firewall which allowed her to pass the omnibus that will roll back regulations. She could only get a majority to pass it—by getting the “far right” party to go along. It is the only way to correct some of the imbalances—to work with some of these people. Otherwise the government just veers in a leftward direction—even when “center right” people are in charge. Edited December 13, 2025 by Dalal.Holdings
Dalal.Holdings Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 1 hour ago, changegonnacome said: We are very lucky to live in a county like this....even if the President of United States wants you indicted and locked up he cant get it done if there's no merit to the case! I agree.
Parsad Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 7 hours ago, dealraker said: Really? I didn't vote Republican so I think you and Cubs are Nazi/fascist? Really? How about I didn't vote Republican because I think Donald Trump is a worthless piece of fucking fake shit? Well Greg isn't...Cubs...eh? No, Cubs is no Nazi...just a cult leader! Cheers!
Parsad Posted December 13, 2025 Posted December 13, 2025 6 hours ago, cubsfan said: I hereby apologize for being a Christian, conservative, straight, white male! Shoot me already! Don't forget being a Cubs fan! YOU REALLY NEED TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT! Cheers!
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