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[cubsfan]

@LC -- yes, yes -- these unfortunate things do happen occasionally. 

 

These incidents pale in comparison to the destruction the radical Democrat governors continue to unleash upon the citizens of America.

And these are INTENTIONAL acts of destruction.

 

Governor Pritzker’s Sanctuary Illinois Released More than 1,700 Criminal Illegal Aliens Including Murderers, Pedophiles, and Kidnappers

 

Illinois' failure to honor ICE detainers has resulted in the release of 1,768 criminal illegal aliens since January 20. The crimes of these aliens include 5 homicides, 141 assaults, 23 burglaries, 4 robberies, 24 dangerous drugs offenses, 15 weapons offenses, and 10 sexual predatory offenses.

 

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/08/governor-pritzkers-sanctuary-illinois-released-more-1700-criminal-illegal-aliens

 

[Sweet]

3 hours ago, adesigar said:

That’s just one incident

 

https://abc7.com/amp/post/us-citizens-socal-testify-washington-new-report-denounces-unconstitutional-detentions/18269743/

 

and I’m sure the cultists are fine with this. 

What do you want to happen?  To stop the ICE raids and just allow illegals to do what they want?

[gfp]

3 hours ago, cubsfan said:

@LC -- yes, yes -- these unfortunate things do happen occasionally. 

 

These incidents pale in comparison to the destruction the radical Democrat governors continue to unleash upon the citizens of America.

And these are INTENTIONAL acts of destruction.

 

 

Governor Pritzker’s Sanctuary Illinois Released More than 1,700 Criminal Illegal Aliens Including Murderers, Pedophiles, and Kidnappers

 

Illinois' failure to honor ICE detainers has resulted in the release of 1,768 criminal illegal aliens since January 20. The crimes of these aliens include 5 homicides, 141 assaults, 23 burglaries, 4 robberies, 24 dangerous drugs offenses, 15 weapons offenses, and 10 sexual predatory offenses.

 

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/08/governor-pritzkers-sanctuary-illinois-released-more-1700-criminal-illegal-aliens

 

 

My understanding is that criminals who were tried and convicted of crimes were sentenced just like home-grown criminals and did their time.  This complaining about them not honoring ICE detainers is for what happened after they were tried, convicted and served their sentence.  After they were released.  

 

We release criminals back into society every day.  After they have been sentenced and served their time.

 

The talk around this makes it sound like you guys believe they didn't serve their time for the crimes they were convicted of.  Why are these immigrants any worse than a poor black kid that did the same horrible crimes but happened to be born in the USA?

Edited December 11, 2025 by gfp

[Sweet]

This is bang on.  In England nearly 50% of the newborns aren’t British.  Why on earth would anyone go fight for their country when politicians have allowed their countries to be wrecked by multi-culturalism and mass migration.

[73 Reds]

3 minutes ago, Sweet said:

This is bang on.  In England nearly 50% of the newborns aren’t British.  Why on earth would anyone go fight for their country when politicians have allowed their countries to be wrecked by multi-culturalism and mass migration.

That's the very issue at stake here.  When more and more people are not willing to defend the Country, and worse yet hate it and what it stands for, you have no Country and no future.  Just a stunningly stark issue that half of the US can't grasp and Britain is not far behind.

[Sweet]

17 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

That's the very issue at stake here.  When more and more people are not willing to defend the Country, and worse yet hate it and what it stands for, you have no Country and no future.  Just a stunningly stark issue that half of the US can't grasp and Britain is not far behind.

Exactly.  The politicians haven’t served us in a long time.  What would we be fighting for?  To be ignored and called bigots and racist all over again.

 

Ironically war, and specifically conscription, would be one of the few things that would immediately result in large amounts of immigrants leaving,

[LC]

It gets better and better:

 

 

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, gfp said:

 

My understanding is that criminals who were tried and convicted of crimes were sentenced just like home-grown criminals and did their time.  This complaining about them not honoring ICE detainers is for what happened after they were tried, convicted and served their sentence.  After they were released.  

 

We release criminals back into society every day.  After they have been sentenced and served their time.

 

The talk around this makes it sound like you guys believe they didn't serve their time for the crimes they were convicted of.  Why are these immigrants any worse than a poor black kid that did the same horrible crimes but happened to be born in the USA?

 

In no way, am I suggesting they did not serve their time for their crimes. If I was in France, my wife's home, and I committed armed robbery or rape, I would expect to serve my sentence - and then be expelled from the country upon my release. Now that would be if I was a LEGAL visitor.  We're talking about illegal visitors, many with outstanding orders of deportation.

 

Democrat's obstruction of ICE doing their lawful jobs only makes our country less safe. 

 

Yes, we KEEP our violent black criminals, as you say, they are US citizens,  but why in the world would you KEEP violent illegal aliens that never came in legally???

Edited December 11, 2025 by cubsfan

[Spekulatius]

1 hour ago, Sweet said:

What do you want to happen?  To stop the ICE raids and just allow illegals to do what they want?

What about the ICE behaving like a regular police  force not like a crossover of Gestapo and Ku Klux Khan.

[cubsfan]

17 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

What about the ICE behaving like a regular police  force not like a crossover of Gestapo and Ku Klux Khan.

 

What the heck are you talking about?

 

If you do not surrender yourself to the police when told to do so - they employ the same tactics to take you into custody.

 

The police have every right to tell someone "you are being detained at this point" - and you must obey them or they will forcibly detain you.

 

And as a bystander, if you interfere with ICE, you too are subject to being detained and/or arrested.

 

ICE are police force. 

[Gregmal]

Yea unless you’re harebrained or raised in a ghetto, you are taught from pretty much day one, when approached by law enforcement you engage politely, and then if it escalates, keep your mouth shut and do whatever they say, and then deal with whatever injustices were done after. The absolute dumbest thing you can do is be defiant, run away, or fight them.  

[John Hjorth]

5 hours ago, Sweet said:

This is bang on.  In England nearly 50% of the newborns aren’t British.  Why on earth would anyone go fight for their country when politicians have allowed their countries to be wrecked by multi-culturalism and mass migration.

 

What does that guy Paul Emberys commenting with this statement of his  on NATO Secretary Generals talk about Europes worst foe of all to do with each other. Citizenship manages draftning. Simple as that.

[John Hjorth]

On 12/10/2025 at 4:10 PM, Dalal.Holdings said:

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/a-climate-study-retraction-for-the-ages-49e967e0?mod=hp_opin_pos_1

 

So many lessons here about how climate ideology has rotted brains and so many institutions (like Nature) that were once held in high regard. The affliction seems to have had pernicious hold in Europe in particular

 

Politics and science should not mix, but in this case it has corrupted science. Yes, the reviewers didn't want to downplay the narrative being pushed by climate ideologues...something that should never be called "science"

 

Why do you simply just continue to drag all kinds of *BS* laying around on the web into CofB&F in two topics here in the General Discussion forum, this topic and the 'Is Europe becoming uninvestable?'

 

It's  generally known that scientists at universities has total freedom to study what 'wt*' is of their interest inside their disciplines, based on what ever, also their own political orientation. It's nothing new.

 

Politics and science have always been joined by their hips, because sound, reasonable, logical and rational political decisions are not only based on ideologies, but also on scientificly based input and data.

 

So there will always be scientists filing and releasing all kinds of reports answering questions not asked.

 

Here in Denmark, it's has been generally know, that the universities in Aalborg [AUC] and Roskilde University [RUC] were leftist oriented, when there lines of studies ended up producing high level skilled young leftist people that coulden't get a job, with lots of student debt, that gradually changed over time, lol!

 

In that light why is some more or less ramdomly and perhaps also by your personal preferences, cherry picked and by you chosen article in ticket selling WSJ, because you have read that article, what has to do with this topic and the other aforementioned topic here on CofB&F? -Have you personally read the report your self, and why aren't you linking to that, too, based on you own personal comments on the report?

 

So why is a report from Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in that respect relevant here on CofB&F? Alone the name of the Institute indicates it's not worth our time reading the report, because where does the institutes funding come from? [uncovered by you, but It's given, it's from somewhere or someone with a political agenda].

 

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New England Complex Systems Institute : Joseph Norman, Rupert Read, Yaneer Bar-Yam, and Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Climate models and precautionary measures, Issues in Science and Technology (Summer 2015).

 

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... We have only one planet. ...

 

How difficult can that be to understand? - It's that plain simple, combined with :

 

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... This fact radically constrains the kinds of risks that are appropriate to take at a large scale. Even a risk with a very low probability becomes unacceptable when it affects all of us. ...

 

It's about the living conditions of our future generations, our kids and their decendants, putting their skin the game by our actions.

 

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Same goes with your continuing reference to the Draghi Report. When I then take the time to ecplain to you what it really is, then you just reply that you havestopped reading more than two lines of my replies to you! - Honestly, give me a break!

 

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Then there is this 'attached capsule thingy' of yours! -lol! Wt* has that to do do with Europe being uninvestable?

 

A photo of a part of the contents of my households fridge :

 

 

Left is our milk, to the right is my yogurt [with attached capsule]. Is there any problem with an attached capsule, at all? I can't see see it, actually. [The Lady of the House always buys what ever is cheapest of milk, my yogurt is a special kind, produced by this particular producer [Arla], so only available by this brand.

 

With a capsule, there is further the advantage, that it can be placed in the fridge horisontally after it's been opened [attached, or not].

Edited December 12, 2025 by John Hjorth

[UK]

57 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Why do you simply just continue to drag all kinds of *BS* laying around on the web into CofB&F in two topics here in the General Discussion forum, this topic and the 'Is Europe becoming uninvestable?'

 

It's  generally known that scientists at universities has total freedom to study what 'wt*' is of their interest inside their disciplines, based on what ever, also their own political orientation. It's nothing new.

 

Politics and science have always been joined by their hips, because sound, reasonable, logical and rational political decisions are not only based on ideologies, but also on scientificly based input and data.

 

So there will always be scientists filing and releasing all kinds of reports answering questions not asked.

 

Here in Denmark, it's has been generally know, that the universities in Aalborg [AUC] and Roskilde University [RUC] were leftist oriented, when there lines of studies ended up producing high level skilled young leftist people that coulden't get a job, with lots of student debt, that gradually changed over time, lol!

 

In that light why is some more or less ramdomly and perhaps also by your personal preferences, cherry picked and by you chosen article in ticket selling WSJ, because you have read that article, what has to do with this topic and the other aforementioned topic here on CofB&F? -Have you personally read the report your self, and why aren't you linking to that, too, based on you own personal comments on the report?

 

So why is a report from Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in that respect relevant here on CofB&F? Alone the name of the Institute indicates it's not worth our time reading the report, because where does the institutes funding come from? [uncovered by you, but It's given, it's from somewhere or someone with a political agenda].

 

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New England Complex Systems Institute : Joseph Norman, Rupert Read, Yaneer Bar-Yam, and Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Climate models and precautionary measures, Issues in Science and Technology (Summer 2015).

 

 

How difficult can that be to understand? - It's that plain simple, combined with :

 

 

It's about the living conditions of our future generations, our kids and their decendants, putting their skin the game by our actions.

 

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Same goes with your continuing reference to the Draghi Report. When I then take the time to ecplain to you what it really is, then you just reply that you havestopped reading more than two lines of my replies to you! - Honestly, give me a break!

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

Then there is this 'attached capsule thingy' of yours! -lol! Wt* has that to do do with Europe being uninvestable?

 

A photo of a part of the contents of my households fridge :

 

 

Left is our milk, to the right is my yogurt [with attached capsule]. Is there any problem with an attached capsule, at all? I can't see see it, actually. [The Lady of the House always buys what ever is cheapest of milk, my yogurt is a special kind, produced by this particular producer [Arla], so only available by this brand.

 

With a capsule, there is further the advantage, that it can be placed in the fridge horisontally after it's been opened [attached, or not].

 

Not to derail anything, but this is impressive, go Denmark:) https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20251211-1

[Sweet]

3 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

 

What does that guy Paul Emberys commenting with this statement of his  on NATO Secretary Generals talk about Europes worst foe of all to do with each other. Citizenship manages draftning. Simple as that.

It’s about willingness of the people to fight John.  He’s saying the patriotic spirit is of World War 1 and World War 2 is gone.  

[John Hjorth]

47 minutes ago, UK said:

Not to derail anything, but this is impressive, go Denmark:) https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20251211-1

 

Thank you for sharing, @UK,

 

Yeah, a lot is happening at the moment here. More later. 

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, Sweet said:

It’s about willingness of the people to fight John.  He’s saying the patriotic spirit is of World War 1 and World War 2 is gone.  

 

That's certainly OK to state and to question, and to be skeptical about, @Sweet,

 

I personally not only feel and sense, but also experience and observe that it's on the move, for at least three reasons : The escalations of threats and introduction of new red lines by Russia towards Denmark, the Danish government and parlament actually giving Russia the finger [ ] about it, continuing the military ramp up, despite of that, the Russian escalation of the hybrid war against Denmark, and our PM Mette Frederiksen beeing a hawk against Russia from her special soap box as being  chair of EU this half year.

[Sweet]

7 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

 

That's certainly OK to state and to question, and to be skeptical about, @Sweet,

 

I personally not only feel and sense, but also experience and observe that it's on the move, for at least three reasons : The escalations of threats and introduction of new red lines by Russia towards Denmark, the Danish government and parlament actually giving Russia the finger [ ] about it, continuing the military ramp up, despite of that, the Russian escalation of the hybrid war against Denmark, and our PM Mette Frederiksen beeing a hawk against Russia from her special soap box as being  chair of EU this half year.

 

As you know John, I am massively pro-Ukraine, and I am for the military build up as I am believe in peace through strength. 

 

However, I am still of conscription age, and I look at all the loud talking of fighting like the previous generations in the world wars and I just can't help but think (god forbid in the future) why would I put my life on the line when the wishes of my people at home, my country, have been ignored for a generation.

 

Britain isn't Britain if most of the population aren't British - it's a way off but it is the trajectory this country is on.  Successive governments haven't put this country first, or its people... so what would I be fighting to preserve at home?  To maybe come home in one piece, and just continue to see the slow decay of our people and culture... I'm kinda angry John in several directions.

 

Edited December 12, 2025 by Sweet

[Dalal.Holdings]

6 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Why do you simply just continue to drag all kinds of *BS* laying around on the web into CofB&F in two topics here in the General Discussion forum, this topic and the 'Is Europe becoming uninvestable?'

 

It's  generally known that scientists at universities has total freedom to study what 'wt*' is of their interest inside their disciplines, based on what ever, also their own political orientation. It's nothing new.

 

Politics and science have always been joined by their hips, because sound, reasonable, logical and rational political decisions are not only based on ideologies, but also on scientificly based input and data.

 

So there will always be scientists filing and releasing all kinds of reports answering questions not asked.

 

Here in Denmark, it's has been generally know, that the universities in Aalborg [AUC] and Roskilde University [RUC] were leftist oriented, when there lines of studies ended up producing high level skilled young leftist people that coulden't get a job, with lots of student debt, that gradually changed over time, lol!

 

In that light why is some more or less ramdomly and perhaps also by your personal preferences, cherry picked and by you chosen article in ticket selling WSJ, because you have read that article, what has to do with this topic and the other aforementioned topic here on CofB&F? -Have you personally read the report your self, and why aren't you linking to that, too, based on you own personal comments on the report?

 

So why is a report from Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in that respect relevant here on CofB&F? Alone the name of the Institute indicates it's not worth our time reading the report, because where does the institutes funding come from? [uncovered by you, but It's given, it's from somewhere or someone with a political agenda].

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

New England Complex Systems Institute : Joseph Norman, Rupert Read, Yaneer Bar-Yam, and Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Climate models and precautionary measures, Issues in Science and Technology (Summer 2015).

 

 

How difficult can that be to understand? - It's that plain simple, combined with :

 

 

It's about the living conditions of our future generations, our kids and their decendants, putting their skin the game by our actions.

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

Same goes with your continuing reference to the Draghi Report. When I then take the time to ecplain to you what it really is, then you just reply that you havestopped reading more than two lines of my replies to you! - Honestly, give me a break!

 

- - - o 0 o - - -

 

Then there is this 'attached capsule thingy' of yours! -lol! Wt* has that to do do with Europe being uninvestable?

 

A photo of a part of the contents of my households fridge :

 

 

Left is our milk, to the right is my yogurt [with attached capsule]. Is there any problem with an attached capsule, at all? I can't see see it, actually. [The Lady of the House always buys what ever is cheapest of milk, my yogurt is a special kind, produced by this particular producer [Arla], so only available by this brand.

 

With a capsule, there is further the advantage, that it can be placed in the fridge horisontally after it's been opened [attached, or not].

[Dalal.Holdings]

20 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

As you know John, I am massively pro-Ukraine, and I am for the military build up as I am believe in peace through strength. 

 

However, I am still of conscription age, and I look at all the loud talking of fighting like the previous generations in the world wars and I just can't help but think (god forbid in the future) why would I put my life on the line when the wishes of my people at home, my country, have been ignored for a generation.

 

Britain isn't Britain if most of the population aren't British - it's a way off but it is the trajectory this country is on.  Successive governments haven't put this country first, or its people... so what would I be fighting to preserve at home?  To maybe come home in one peace, and just continue to see the slow decay of our people and culture... I'm kinda angry John in several directions.

 

 

You can look at some of the German posts in this thread:

 

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Today the parliament spat in the face of young people of this country

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Only for men. Sexist.

Here are the protests:

https://www.leftvoice.org/55000-students-in-germany-take-to-the-streets-to-protest-new-military-service-law/

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The slogan “No more compulsory military service” set the tone for the march, but the demands went much further: they denounced cuts to education and public services, and the government’s eagerness to rearm on a massive scale.

 

They are telling America that there is war on their doorstep, that they need America to urgently defend them with the tens of thousands of troops that have been there for 80+ years.

 

That Trump is horrible for threatening to cut Ukraine aid. But when those same people are asked to (voluntarily) serve their own country, they go wild.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2025 by Dalal.Holdings

[Sweet]

17 minutes ago, Dalal.Holdings said:

 

You can look at some of the German posts in this thread:

 

Here are the protests:

https://www.leftvoice.org/55000-students-in-germany-take-to-the-streets-to-protest-new-military-service-law/

 

They are telling America that there is war on their doorstep, that they need America to urgently defend them with the tens of thousands of troops that have been there for 80+ years.

 

That Trump is horrible for threatening to cut Ukraine aid. But when those same people are asked to (voluntarily) serve their own country, they go wild.

 

 

 

 

The US has subsided Europe for a decade or more, by guaranteeing Europe's safety with massive defence spending whilst Europe has slowly and steadily reduced military spending and spending that money elsewhere.  It should never have been like that and it shouldn't have taken a character like Trump to waken them up.  Putin has been a known quantity for a very long time.

 

Edited December 12, 2025 by Sweet

[cubsfan]

7 hours ago, Sweet said:

It’s about willingness of the people to fight John.  He’s saying the patriotic spirit is of World War 1 and World War 2 is gone.  

 

You hit the nail on the head.

 

Look no further than the USA last year vs this year. 

The country has gone from a dangerous military shortfall in terms of recruiting to exceeding all recruitment goals in the space of 6 months.  No one wants to fight for a country that marginalizes the recruits with trash like DEI & Critical race theory.

 

The drastic bleeding in US border agents has stopped and ICE has overwhelming numbers of applicants. 

 

Some citizens don't act on money - but on patriotism and love of country. When politicians signal they don't care about citizens and family - why in the world would you lay down your life for that?

[Spekulatius]

16 hours ago, Sweet said:

It’s about willingness of the people to fight John.  He’s saying the patriotic spirit is of World War 1 and World War 2 is gone.  

The patriotic spirit has gotten Germany & Europe into WW1 and 2 to begin with. There is a fine line between putting your home county first and kicking everyone else with the boots. I think we are digressing towards the latter.

[Spekulatius]

LOl, Zelenskyy has balls. Unlike Putin who is 30 ft away

12 hours ago, Dalal.Holdings said:

 

You can look at some of the German posts in this thread:

 

Here are the protests:

https://www.leftvoice.org/55000-students-in-germany-take-to-the-streets-to-protest-new-military-service-law/

 

They are telling America that there is war on their doorstep, that they need America to urgently defend them with the tens of thousands of troops that have been there for 80+ years.

 

That Trump is horrible for threatening to cut Ukraine aid. But when those same people are asked to (voluntarily) serve their own country, they go wild.

 

 

You realize that 55k students in a country of 84M people are not a whole lot. As an investor you should not about the concept of base rates.

 

i bet I one could mobilize 550k students in America to demonstrate for the same thing. Or 5.5M for the White House to get painted in Rainbow colors.

Edited December 13, 2025 by Spekulatius

[Sweet]

8 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

The patriotic spirit has gotten Germany & Europe into WW1 and 2 to begin with. There is a fine line between putting your home county first and kicking everyone else with the boots. I think we are digressing towards the latter.

I think there is quite a large difference between being patriotic and being (for example) a Nazi.