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Posted
41 minutes ago, LC said:

 

 

Who are "these people"?

Charlie Kirk called for Joe Biden to be killed. 

Trump has called for the deaths of how many people now? I've lost count. 

 

I think I know where the problem originates!

 

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It always comes home to the unfairness and "lib" violence against the white man and whatnot.  Evidently Taylor Swift has 83 close protection officers that she pays to be with her at all times often with as many as 140 paid others on the site who coordinate to protect her.  I guess that means since she's a "lib" that she's completely wasting her money since all killers are (again) of course "lib."

 

Charlie Kirk was likely winging it as to security, maybe his $100k or so fee per event couldn't even come close to providing reasonable protection.  But my guess, contrary to the 90 degrees/east (that's right) thinking, is that all people, even the lilly whites, who get out and about with intense topics that segregate people into us vs them have a slew of scheming shooters - and thus need massive protection.  

 

 

Posted
27 minutes ago, Sweet said:

I literally both sided this LC and that wasn’t enough?  You talk the talk about coming together but can’t both sides it - got it.

 

I was literally asking a question - who are "these people"? Is it just political assassins?

 

I'm suggesting that Trump is one of "these people" who in your words: think it's OK to kill people and celebrate it, who cannot be reasoned with. 

 

And because POTUS is a big part of the problem, I can humbly suggest a good starting point to help fixing the problem: Impeach the peach! 😄 

 

 

29 minutes ago, Sweet said:

I don’t know for sure where it originates

 

Yusef Salaam was 15 years old when Donald Trump demanded his execution for a crime he did not commit.

 

This was back in 1989! No evidence, just execute him.

Bing bong!

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOfmTLWDPeC/

Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, LC said:

 

I was literally asking a question - who are "these people"? Is it just political assassins?

 

I'm suggesting that Trump is one of "these people" who in your words: think it's OK to kill people and celebrate it, who cannot be reasoned with. 

 

And because POTUS is a big part of the problem, I can humbly suggest a good starting point to help fixing the problem: Impeach the peach! 😄 

 

 

 

Yusef Salaam was 15 years old when Donald Trump demanded his execution for a crime he did not commit.

 

This was back in 1989! No evidence, just execute him.

Bing bong!

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOfmTLWDPeC/


You were not just asking who they are lol.  You were telling us who you thought they were.

 

There is no clear line but let’s start with the extremely small number who actually assassinate or attempt to assassinate people they disagree with their speech.

 

With regards to Trump and Yusef Salaam, are you talking about this advert he took out about violence in Central Park any some of it needed the death penalty:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6131533-trumpdeathpenaltyad05011989/

 

If not, what specific quote are you referring to?

 

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Sweet said:

You were not just asking who they are lol.  You were telling us who you thought they were.

 

There is no clear line but let’s start with the extremely small number who actually assassinate or attempt to assassinate people they disagree with their speech.

 

I assumed we were discussing how to bridge the gap in this country between mainstream political identities. That's the real question, isn't it? 

 

But yeah I agree with you...murderers are bad. I said it here first! 😄

 

On Trump - he's also trying to get the death penalty instituted in Washington DC, against DC law! So even Trump is a supporter of murder. 

 

To me it sounds like Trump and Tyler Robinson have something very much in common. So when you mentioned 'shared fundamental morals': both sides are filled with people who share the wrong morals...except one is President.

 

😕

 

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Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, LC said:

 

I assumed we were discussing how to bridge the gap in this country between mainstream political identities. That's the real question, isn't it? 

 

But yeah I agree with you...murderers are bad. I said it here first! 😄

 

On Trump - he's also trying to get the death penalty instituted in Washington DC, against DC law! So even Trump is a supporter of murder. 

 

To me it sounds like Trump and Tyler Robinson have something very much in common. So when you mentioned 'shared fundamental morals': both sides are filled with people who share the wrong morals...except one is President.

 

😕

 

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Lol your ‘Trump has called for people to be killed’ turned out to be Trump saying we should have capital punishment for serious crimes.

 

It’s good to know that you can’t see any important differences between legal capital punishment for serious crimes (like murder), and a person illegally taking the law into their own hands to assassinate someone because they didn’t like what they said.

 

A charitable take is maybe you just don’t get those differences.  Another take is you do understand but are blurring the lines deliberately. In either case it’s clear that you can’t reason or won’t reason, and so you fall into the ‘can’t be reasoned with’ category.

 

Also, I was clear that I wasn’t talking about bridging a political gap between ordinary Dems and Rep, most of whom probably don’t need to be told that political assassinations are wrong.

 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Sweet said:


Lol your ‘Trump has called for people to be killed’ turned out to be Trump saying we should have capital punishment for serious crimes.

 

It’s good to know that you can’t see any important differences between legal capital punishment for serious crimes (like murder), and a person illegally taking the law into their own hands to assassinate someone because they didn’t like what they said.

 

A charitable take is maybe you just don’t get those differences.  Another take is you do understand but are blurring the lines deliberately. In either case it’s clear that you can’t reason or won’t reason, and so you fall into the ‘can’t be reasoned with’ category.

 

Also, I was clear that I wasn’t talking about bridging a political gap between ordinary Dems and Rep, most of whom probably don’t need to be told that political assassinations are wrong.

 

 

I do believe it was a bipartisan Senate wording that 7 died because of the Jan 6th event.

 

Are you saying that the pres should be executed?   Is it you Sweet who can't reason?  

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NY Dems going all in on socialist Mandami….the logic? According to Kathy Hochul it’s for no reason other than because he’s the best person to “fight Trump”….lmfao so again….what exactly does this party stand for? 

Posted (edited)
34 minutes ago, dealraker said:

I do believe it was a bipartisan Senate wording that 7 died because of the Jan 6th event.

 

Are you saying that the pres should be executed?   Is it you Sweet who can't reason?  

 

 

It's so weird that so many of you cannot reason when it comes to Trump.

 

Apart from the Trump supporter, who was shot by police and later died of her injuries, all the others died from suicide, natural causes, or a drug overdose*:  

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

 

Trump was impeached and acquitted for inciting a riot.  He wasn't impeached for calling on people to be killed.

 

Trump said "If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore", but he also said to march to the capitol and "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard".  Again, not even close to calling on people to be killed.

 

There were no criminal charges brought against Trump relating to January 6, no court case, no conviction.

 

So what are you talking about dealraker?

 

 

 

* You might consider that 2 people died if you believe the officer who died from a stroke got his stroke as a result of being pepper sprayed.

 

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

 

It's so weird that so many of you cannot reason when it comes to Trump.

 

Apart from the Trump supporter, who was shot by police and later died of her injuries, all the others died from suicide, natural causes, or a drug overdose*:  

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

 

Trump was impeached and acquitted for inciting a riot.  He wasn't impeached for calling on people to be killed.

 

Trump said "If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore", but he also said to march to the capitol and "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard".  Again, not even close to calling on people to be killed.

 

There were no criminal charges brought against Trump relating to January 6, no court case, no conviction.

 

So what are you talking about dealraker?

 

 

 

* You might consider that 2 people died if you believe the officer who died from a stroke got his stroke as a result of being pepper sprayed.

 

 

The majority of Americans see Jan. 6 for what it was:  A group of right-wing crazies acting without any moral compass and largely getting the punishment they deserved.  Yet the MSM and all-too-many TDSers treat this incident as the worst thing that ever happened in this Country.  They clearly lack context and allow ideology to get in the way of objectivity.     

Posted
Just now, 73 Reds said:

The majority of Americans see Jan. 6 for what it was:  A group of right-wing crazies acting without any moral compass and largely getting the punishment they deserved.  Yet the MSM and all-too-many TDSers treat this incident as the worst thing that ever happened in this Country.  They clearly lack context and allow ideology to get in the way of objectivity.     

 

A fair criticism is why the sweeping (not quite blanket) pardons though.

Posted
Just now, Sweet said:

 

A fair criticism is why the sweeping (not quite blanket) pardons though.

Agreed.  The Presidential pardon is abused equally by both parties.  

Posted
8 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Agreed.  The Presidential pardon is abused equally by both parties.  

 

Yeh, but it was like 1,500 people in one go.  I know many prosecutions were tough, but here is probably some who got pardon who should have got time served.

 

In any case, it's not nearly as bad many claim.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

Yeh, but it was like 1,500 people in one go.  I know many prosecutions were tough, but here is probably some who got pardon who should have got time served.

 

In any case, it's not nearly as bad many claim.

Sure, but undoubtedly some people were also punished for just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.  Compare these pardons to Biden's preemptive pardons of some of the Russian hoax wrongdoers or even the pardon of his own son (or even auto-pen) and you see why the "privilege" of Presidential pardons is often so ripe for criticism.

Posted
46 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 

 

It's so weird that so many of you cannot reason when it comes to Trump.

 

Apart from the Trump supporter, who was shot by police and later died of her injuries, all the others died from suicide, natural causes, or a drug overdose*:  

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

 

Trump was impeached and acquitted for inciting a riot.  He wasn't impeached for calling on people to be killed.

 

Trump said "If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore", but he also said to march to the capitol and "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard".  Again, not even close to calling on people to be killed.

 

There were no criminal charges brought against Trump relating to January 6, no court case, no conviction.

 

So what are you talking about dealraker?

 

 

 

* You might consider that 2 people died if you believe the officer who died from a stroke got his stroke as a result of being pepper sprayed.

 

 

Yea, I gotcha Sweet.  Some police should have been charged.  I guess that's why they committed suicide.  

Posted (edited)

President Trump’s supporters have been proven right again, he does always seem to find a way to win. 
 

Look no further than this horrible tragedy. On one hand, this loser kid murders his friend and a leader of his movement, while on the other hand, the shooter has helped take the focus off of his close ties to Jeffrey Epstein while also giving him and his MAGA mob a good reason to wage their “war” on the left.  It’s a 2fer for Trump. 

 

This kid may have supported the left, but he’s done more to help embolden the MAGA mob, than most of the right-leaning influencers could ever dream of. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Buckeye said:

President Trump’s supporters have been proven right again, he does always seem to find a way to win. 
 

Look no further than this horrible tragedy. On one hand, this loser kid murders his friend and a leader of his movement, while on the other hand, the shooter has helped take the focus off of his close ties to Jeffrey Epstein while also giving him and his MAGA mob a good reason to wage their “war” on the left.  It’s a 2fer for Trump. 

 

This kid may have supported to left, but he’s done more to help embolden the MAGA mob, than most of the right-leaning influencers could ever dream of. 

Turning Point has received a large number of inquiries from people wanting to start new campus chapters.  The political pendulum is swinging back to the right.  How long can they hold back the tide in Western Europe?

Posted
5 hours ago, Sweet said:

It’s good to know that you can’t see any important differences between legal capital punishment for serious crimes (like murder), and a person illegally taking the law into their own hands to assassinate someone because they didn’t like what they said.

 

The death penalty is illegal in DC, where Trump is calling for its use. 

So Trump can support the unlawful killing (murder) of people in DC. And he has also suggested the use of firing squads.

 

Tyler Johnson's actions seem to align with Trump's own suggestions. 

 

Silly logic but we have a silly POTUS, so this is what we get.

Posted
13 minutes ago, LC said:

 

The death penalty is illegal in DC, where Trump is calling for its use. 

So Trump can support the unlawful killing (murder) of people in DC. And he has also suggested the use of firing squads.

 

Tyler Johnson's actions seem to align with Trump's own suggestions. 

 

Silly logic but we have a silly POTUS, so this is what we get.

Sounds like he is testing the Federal jurisdiction in DC by prosecuting crimes under federal law.  Courts can decide.  

Posted
2 hours ago, Gregmal said:

NY Dems going all in on socialist Mandami….the logic? According to Kathy Hochul it’s for no reason other than because he’s the best person to “fight Trump”….lmfao so again….what exactly does this party stand for? 

And laughably will in the end help the right.  Like that joke you told last week.

Posted
1 hour ago, dealraker said:

Yea, I gotcha Sweet.  Some police should have been charged.  I guess that's why they committed suicide.  


^ man shouts at the sky

 

1 hour ago, LC said:

 

The death penalty is illegal in DC, where Trump is calling for its use. 

So Trump can support the unlawful killing (murder) of people in DC. And he has also suggested the use of firing squads.

 

Tyler Johnson's actions seem to align with Trump's own suggestions. 

 

Silly logic but we have a silly POTUS, so this is what we get.


It’s not even remotely comparable Lc.

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