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6 minutes ago, Spooky said:

 

What is a "compatible culture"? White?

 

 

 

Culture isn't a color or a race.  What separates the rich from the poor nations isn't skin color it is culture.  The reason we aren't all still living in caves is culture.  The reason Europe went from the middle ages to the Renaissance was a evolution of culture.  What separated Hong Kong from the rest of China wasn't a race or a color, it was culture. Some cultures are far, far, far, far superior than others, and the western/enlightenment culture is the best culture mankind has created thus far.  

Posted
55 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

The globalists want to destroy Europe. We just need to make sure the US learns from Europe's mistakes.

 

Do you mind explaining what "globalists" are? I'm truly curious.

Posted

So in announcing the "concept" of a trade deal with the UK, he put a 10% tariff on a country where we have a trade surplus (or did until now).  Art of the Deal. 

Posted (edited)

As a fan (mostly just reading) of this forum and as a German citizen, I would like to comment on the recent events concerning the AfD over the past few days as i saw it gets discussed here intensely.

 

I do not wish to be impolite, but anyone who takes the assessments of the German Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Verfassungsschutz) regarding the AfD even remotely seriously either has little understanding of German politics or a rather peculiar view of democracy. The AfD certainly has its serious problems, just like other parties, but what has happened is an absolute disgrace, damages public trust in institutions, and will further deepen the division in society.

 

The Office for the Protection of the Constitution is not an independent body but is directly subordinate to the Ministry of the Interior. Nancy Faeser, the Minister of the Interior, who declared the "fight against the right" as her main goal in office and has previously published articles for left-wing extremist organizations such as "Antifa," made the report public in an obviously non-neutral, politically motivated process without the usual review procedures, just a few days before leaving office.

This was done to present the incoming government with a fait accompli and to prevent fair treatment of the AfD and threaten AFD Voters and Members, because they now may face further discrimination. Even the loss of their Jobs, if they work in the public sector is in discussion now.

 

 

A well-known and, in my view, extremely competent lawyer who has already won several lawsuits against Nancy Faeser, among others, for abuse of office, explains the incident very well in this video (unfortunately in German, but perhaps you have a way to translate it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXuv47F1yk

 

The report classifying the AfD as "proven right-wing extremist" has not been published except for a few quotations, and the AfD was not given a chance to defend itself. Only the left-leaning newspaper "Spiegel" received the report in advance (the editor-in-chief has confirmed this herself). The reasons published so far for classifying the AfD as proven right-wing extremist are the following individual statements by AfD politicians:

 

1.      Hannes Gnauck, member of the AfD federal executive board, said on August 11, 2024, in Zossen, Brandenburg:
“We must once again be allowed to decide who actually belongs to this people and who does not. There is more to being German than simply holding a citizenship certificate. All of us here in this marketplace are connected by much more than just a common language. We are connected by an invisible bond that does not need to be explained. Each of you is more closely connected to me than any Syrian or Afghan, and I don’t need to explain that-it’s simply a law of nature.”

 

2.      Dennis Hohloch, member of the state parliament, warned on August 25, 2024, in Brandenburg (Havel) about a high proportion of migrants:
“Diversity means multiculturalism. And what does multiculturalism mean? Multiculturalism means loss of tradition, loss of identity, loss of homeland, murder, manslaughter, robbery, and gang rape.”

 

3.      Martin Reichardt, staff member of the Bundestag, criticized on X in November a “failed migration policy”:
“Failed migration policy and abuse of asylum have led to the importation of hundreds of thousands of people from deeply backward and misogynistic cultures.”

 

Of course, it is absolutely acceptable to consider these statements exaggerated or problematic. But being prosecuted for such statements is, in my view, a much greater problem for Germany than the content of the AfD’s positions. Especially since members of the party "Die Linke" receive applause at their party conventions for much more aggressive and anti-constitutional statements such as "the demand to expropriate the rich" without facing serious consequences.

 

A small anecdote about the neutrality of German authorities and media regarding the AfD:
Last year, a magazine (Correctiv), which is co-financed by the government, published an article titled "Secret Plan Against Germany," which was used as the basis for a nationwide coordinated smear campaign against the AfD. The AfD was able to win most of the lawsuits against the content, but the damage was obviously already done.

 

My wife works at the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA), which is also subordinate to the Ministry of the Interior, in the area of combating right-wing extremism and works closely with the Office for the Protection of the Constitution. For obvious reasons, I cannot share many internal details here, but a small example to give you a sense of the atmosphere:


In communications between authorities regarding the aforementioned article, the term "Secret Plan Against Germany" was repeatedly used without quotation marks. Some employees noted in private chats that this was unprofessional, as "Secret Plan Against Germany" was merely the title of the article, not an actual fact. None of the colleagues dared to correct this detail in team meetings because they were afraid of being suspected of being on the "wrong side."

 

There are good reasons to criticize the AfD, but the vast majority of its voters and members (I have spoken with some, as well as with members of other parties) choose the AfD because they fear an increasingly intrusive state, further restrictions on freedom of speech, are concerned about migration issues, and have no interest in left-wing cultural and climate policies.

 

For comfort reasons i wrote the Text in german an translated via perplexity. Hope you forgive me 😊

 

Edited by Maddino
Posted
1 minute ago, Spekulatius said:

@John Hjorth I am surprised that 3 & 4 are legally possible  in Denmark.

 

Thanks, @Spekulatius,

 

My #1 above : It is called the 'Ph.D. tax arrangement' in daily day speaking here in Denmark, and it works great for i.e. Novo Nordisk and others, to attract foreign well qualified applicants with highly specialized skills. Otherwise, such relevant applicants woulden't apply for such relevant positions for them, because of the tax consequences for them, compared to tax treatment outside Denmark.

 

My # 4 above : It is to me personally totally crazy, and makes absolutely no sense to me. To me, it does not in any way make sense, even related to the most hardcore, evil and in any way bad person getting convited for some serious crime [serious personal dangerous crime, like murder and so on, or serious drug crimes, extorsion etc.] To me, it's not human, but it has happened.

 

My #3 above : We here have a neighbour, who back in 2016 [or there about] fell dearly in love with a woman in and from, what he calls 'his homeland', despite he is as far as I know is born here in Denmark [parents indoctrination], on a later vacation there he ended up there impregnating her [difficult to stop from giving it full throttle, when it's good, I think!] and marrying her 'out there'. [I've always thought love is certain kind of madness.] Outcome for nieghbour: Danish family gathering denied, Divorse from Vietnamese wifey afterwards, and vietnamese child support for a man by then of the age of 48 years to a child living with its mother in Vietnam, child support likely payable for 18 years, like here. If I remeber correctly [I may not], he applied for family gathering before 2020, ended up getting controlled for application in 2020, after COVID started, and asked about his actual income, as a self employed taxi driver, with basically no income! 😷

 

Morale :

 

1. Don't think life is just, and 

 

2. -Fall in love all you want! - but be careful with your leftovers, including your sperm! 😐

Posted (edited)

I disagree with Marco Rubio and JD Vance alot  regarding their foreign policy but when it comes to Germany they mainly nailed it. Of course you will hear otherwise from leftleaning people from germany and most parts of the Media/Government here.

 

Whats happening here is like if the Democrats try to ban the complete Republican party (from wich members do express often way more radical views than the average afd member)

 

Obviously even as left-leaning voter you do not need to like the Republicans to opose such things.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Maddino said:

As a fan (mostly just reading) of this forum and as a German citizen, I would like to comment on the recent events concerning the AfD over the past few days as i saw it gets discussed here intensely.

 

I do not wish to be impolite, but anyone who takes the assessments of the German Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Verfassungsschutz) regarding the AfD even remotely seriously either has little understanding of German politics or a rather peculiar view of democracy. The AfD certainly has its serious problems, just like other parties, but what has happened is an absolute disgrace, damages public trust in institutions, and will further deepen the division in society.

 

The Office for the Protection of the Constitution is not an independent body but is directly subordinate to the Ministry of the Interior. Nancy Faeser, the Minister of the Interior, who declared the "fight against the right" as her main goal in office and has previously published articles for left-wing extremist organizations such as "Antifa," made the report public in an obviously non-neutral, politically motivated process without the usual review procedures, just a few days before leaving office.

This was done to present the incoming government with a fait accompli and to prevent fair treatment of the AfD and threaten AFD Voters and Members, because they now may face further discrimination. Even the loss of their Jobs, if they work in the public sector is in discussion now.

 

 

A well-known and, in my view, extremely competent lawyer who has already won several lawsuits against Nancy Faeser, among others, for abuse of office, explains the incident very well in this video (unfortunately in German, but perhaps you have a way to translate it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXuv47F1yk

 

The report classifying the AfD as "proven right-wing extremist" has not been published except for a few quotations, and the AfD was not given a chance to defend itself. Only the left-leaning newspaper "Spiegel" received the report in advance (the editor-in-chief has confirmed this herself). The reasons published so far for classifying the AfD as proven right-wing extremist are the following individual statements by AfD politicians:

 

1.      Hannes Gnauck, member of the AfD federal executive board, said on August 11, 2024, in Zossen, Brandenburg:
“We must once again be allowed to decide who actually belongs to this people and who does not. There is more to being German than simply holding a citizenship certificate. All of us here in this marketplace are connected by much more than just a common language. We are connected by an invisible bond that does not need to be explained. Each of you is more closely connected to me than any Syrian or Afghan, and I don’t need to explain that-it’s simply a law of nature.”

 

2.      Dennis Hohloch, member of the state parliament, warned on August 25, 2024, in Brandenburg (Havel) about a high proportion of migrants:
“Diversity means multiculturalism. And what does multiculturalism mean? Multiculturalism means loss of tradition, loss of identity, loss of homeland, murder, manslaughter, robbery, and gang rape.”

 

3.      Martin Reichardt, staff member of the Bundestag, criticized on X in November a “failed migration policy”:
“Failed migration policy and abuse of asylum have led to the importation of hundreds of thousands of people from deeply backward and misogynistic cultures.”

 

Of course, it is absolutely acceptable to consider these statements exaggerated or problematic. But being prosecuted for such statements is, in my view, a much greater problem for Germany than the content of the AfD’s positions. Especially since members of the party "Die Linke" receive applause at their party conventions for much more aggressive and anti-constitutional statements such as "the demand to expropriate the rich" without facing serious consequences.

 

A small anecdote about the neutrality of German authorities and media regarding the AfD:
Last year, a magazine (Correctiv), which is co-financed by the government, published an article titled "Secret Plan Against Germany," which was used as the basis for a nationwide coordinated smear campaign against the AfD. The AfD was able to win most of the lawsuits against the content, but the damage was obviously already done.

 

My wife works at the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA), which is also subordinate to the Ministry of the Interior, in the area of combating right-wing extremism and works closely with the Office for the Protection of the Constitution. For obvious reasons, I cannot share many internal details here, but a small example to give you a sense of the atmosphere:


In communications between authorities regarding the aforementioned article, the term "Secret Plan Against Germany" was repeatedly used without quotation marks. Some employees noted in private chats that this was unprofessional, as "Secret Plan Against Germany" was merely the title of the article, not an actual fact. None of the colleagues dared to correct this detail in team meetings because they were afraid of being suspected of being on the "wrong side."

 

There are good reasons to criticize the AfD, but the vast majority of its voters and members (I have spoken with some, as well as with members of other parties) choose the AfD because they fear an increasingly intrusive state, further restrictions on freedom of speech, are concerned about migration issues, and have no interest in left-wing cultural and climate policies.

 

For comfort reasons i wrote the Text in german an translated via perplexity. Hope you forgive me 😊

 

@Maddino The courts will decide about the AFD.

Thank god, the seperation of powers (legislative, executive and judiciary) in Germany are working pretty well.

So the AFD will probably get what they deserve. 🙂

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

 

Do you mind explaining what "globalists" are? I'm truly curious.

 

Loser politicians like Obama that are more interested in being with their Davos buddies & George Clooney rather than taking care of the American citizens. 

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Posted

@Maddino thank you for your perspective regarding AFD.

I agree it should not be forbidden but I think there are several members that should not be allowed to have a public office, due to criminal backgrounds. 
 

I think the CDU needs to take the issues that lead to their rise seriously and address them. Whether that is possible within the great coalition with the SPD remains to be seen.


Otherwise, I agree denial will make the AFD only stronger.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Maddino said:

As a fan (mostly just reading) of this forum and as a German citizen, I would like to comment on the recent events concerning the AfD over the past few days as i saw it gets discussed here intensely.

 

Great stuff @Maddino - thank you for your perspective.

Posted
2 hours ago, Maddino said:

As a fan (mostly just reading) of this forum and as a German citizen, I would like to comment on the recent events concerning the AfD over the past few days as i saw it gets discussed here intensely.

 

I do not wish to be impolite, but anyone who takes the assessments of the German Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Verfassungsschutz) regarding the AfD even remotely seriously either has little understanding of German politics or a rather peculiar view of democracy. The AfD certainly has its serious problems, just like other parties, but what has happened is an absolute disgrace, damages public trust in institutions, and will further deepen the division in society.

 

The Office for the Protection of the Constitution is not an independent body but is directly subordinate to the Ministry of the Interior. Nancy Faeser, the Minister of the Interior, who declared the "fight against the right" as her main goal in office and has previously published articles for left-wing extremist organizations such as "Antifa," made the report public in an obviously non-neutral, politically motivated process without the usual review procedures, just a few days before leaving office.

This was done to present the incoming government with a fait accompli and to prevent fair treatment of the AfD and threaten AFD Voters and Members, because they now may face further discrimination. Even the loss of their Jobs, if they work in the public sector is in discussion now.

 

 

A well-known and, in my view, extremely competent lawyer who has already won several lawsuits against Nancy Faeser, among others, for abuse of office, explains the incident very well in this video (unfortunately in German, but perhaps you have a way to translate it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXuv47F1yk

 

The report classifying the AfD as "proven right-wing extremist" has not been published except for a few quotations, and the AfD was not given a chance to defend itself. Only the left-leaning newspaper "Spiegel" received the report in advance (the editor-in-chief has confirmed this herself). The reasons published so far for classifying the AfD as proven right-wing extremist are the following individual statements by AfD politicians:

 

1.      Hannes Gnauck, member of the AfD federal executive board, said on August 11, 2024, in Zossen, Brandenburg:
“We must once again be allowed to decide who actually belongs to this people and who does not. There is more to being German than simply holding a citizenship certificate. All of us here in this marketplace are connected by much more than just a common language. We are connected by an invisible bond that does not need to be explained. Each of you is more closely connected to me than any Syrian or Afghan, and I don’t need to explain that-it’s simply a law of nature.”

 

2.      Dennis Hohloch, member of the state parliament, warned on August 25, 2024, in Brandenburg (Havel) about a high proportion of migrants:
“Diversity means multiculturalism. And what does multiculturalism mean? Multiculturalism means loss of tradition, loss of identity, loss of homeland, murder, manslaughter, robbery, and gang rape.”

 

3.      Martin Reichardt, staff member of the Bundestag, criticized on X in November a “failed migration policy”:
“Failed migration policy and abuse of asylum have led to the importation of hundreds of thousands of people from deeply backward and misogynistic cultures.”

 

Of course, it is absolutely acceptable to consider these statements exaggerated or problematic. But being prosecuted for such statements is, in my view, a much greater problem for Germany than the content of the AfD’s positions. Especially since members of the party "Die Linke" receive applause at their party conventions for much more aggressive and anti-constitutional statements such as "the demand to expropriate the rich" without facing serious consequences.

 

A small anecdote about the neutrality of German authorities and media regarding the AfD:
Last year, a magazine (Correctiv), which is co-financed by the government, published an article titled "Secret Plan Against Germany," which was used as the basis for a nationwide coordinated smear campaign against the AfD. The AfD was able to win most of the lawsuits against the content, but the damage was obviously already done.

 

My wife works at the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA), which is also subordinate to the Ministry of the Interior, in the area of combating right-wing extremism and works closely with the Office for the Protection of the Constitution. For obvious reasons, I cannot share many internal details here, but a small example to give you a sense of the atmosphere:


In communications between authorities regarding the aforementioned article, the term "Secret Plan Against Germany" was repeatedly used without quotation marks. Some employees noted in private chats that this was unprofessional, as "Secret Plan Against Germany" was merely the title of the article, not an actual fact. None of the colleagues dared to correct this detail in team meetings because they were afraid of being suspected of being on the "wrong side."

 

There are good reasons to criticize the AfD, but the vast majority of its voters and members (I have spoken with some, as well as with members of other parties) choose the AfD because they fear an increasingly intrusive state, further restrictions on freedom of speech, are concerned about migration issues, and have no interest in left-wing cultural and climate policies.

 

For comfort reasons i wrote the Text in german an translated via perplexity. Hope you forgive me 😊

 


Thanks Maddo, very interesting, and wonderfully written.

Posted
1 hour ago, Spekulatius said:

@Maddino thank you for your perspective regarding AFD.

I agree it should not be forbidden but I think there are several members that should not be allowed to have a public office, due to criminal backgrounds. 
 

I think the CDU needs to take the issues that lead to their rise seriously and address them. Whether that is possible within the great coalition with the SPD remains to be seen.


Otherwise, I agree denial will make the AFD only stronger.

 

@Spekulatius Agreeing with you here.  

 

They should be treated like any other party and integrated into the system. The concerns of their voters and their vote should count just as much as those of the other parties. Of course, criminals in their party should be prosecuted.

 

I also find their connections to Russia highly problematic.

 

It remains to be seen whether the new government will adequately address some of germanys issues. In any case, the CDU is aware that, without noticeable improvements in crime rates among foreigners and a continuously weakening economy, it will continue to lose votes.

 

Unfortunately, it appears that they want to counter the declining interpretive authority of traditional media-which are mostly inclined towards the governing parties and the Greens by introducing further repressive measures and opportunities for censorship on social networks. A passage from the coalition agreement states:

 

“The deliberate dissemination of false factual claims is not covered by freedom of expression. Therefore, the independent media supervisory authority must, while safeguarding freedom of expression and on the basis of clear legal requirements, be able to take action against information manipulation as well as hate and incitement.”

 

 

Sentences like these explain why the AfD is particularly popular among voters from East Germany or with a migration background from former USSR countries. To them, this sounds all too familiar-“we’ve heard and seen all this before, and we know what it meant.”

 

If freedomrights are important to you, one could certainly argue that, all things considered, the AfD is the lesser evil.

 

In my view, the “firewall” (Brandmauer) has an extremely lose-lose function for Germany. The governing parties can never form a coalition without left-wing partners, which makes it difficult for them to convince citizens on issues of the economy and migration. Ultimately, this undermines citizens’ trust in the democratic system if it is clear from the outset that governments without left-wing participation are “forbidden.” The AfD only needs to stand by and point a finger at the government’s failures, without having to develop any real governing competence.

Posted
8 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

 

Do you mind explaining what "globalists" are? I'm truly curious.

 

Don't bother...he's throwing around labels from the 1950's!  Which is exactly where most of these guys want the world to be again.  Cheers!

Posted
6 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

Loser politicians like Obama that are more interested in being with their Davos buddies & George Clooney rather than taking care of the American citizens. 

 

You mean like Obamacare which now protects 50M more people?  It was so bad, Trump didn't replace it or even tweak it!  

 

Also, exactly how much gold has Trump now brought into the Oval Office...looks like Caligula's party room!  

 

Cheers!

Posted
1 hour ago, Parsad said:

 

You mean like Obamacare which now protects 50M more people?  It was so bad, Trump didn't replace it or even tweak it!  

 

 

 

Give me a break.

Obamacare was an abomination. If the goal was to make sure people didn't lose their homes / go BK  if they had a catastrophic illness, it could have been accomplished without turning the whole insurance system upside down. Just create a pool of $ for such cases. Clean simple, and worthy.  I would have supported that.

 

But that's not what they did. They created a Rube Goldberg scheme which caused millions to lose coverage, and / or have their premiums go up 3X. 

 

Then, once the drug was in place, to remove it becomes cruel. And politically impossible.

 

This is the nature of all social programs, which are driving us off a fiscal cliff. 

 

Posted
12 minutes ago, Libs said:

 

Give me a break.

Obamacare was an abomination. If the goal was to make sure people didn't lose their homes / go BK  if they had a catastrophic illness, it could have been accomplished without turning the whole insurance system upside down. Just create a pool of $ for such cases. Clean simple, and worthy.  I would have supported that.

 

But that's not what they did. They created a Rube Goldberg scheme which caused millions to lose coverage, and / or have their premiums go up 3X. 

 

Then, once the drug was in place, to remove it becomes cruel. And politically impossible.

 

This is the nature of all social programs, which are driving us off a fiscal cliff. 

 

 

I didn't say it was a great program or not...just that he was certainly thinking of a better situation for the 50M people that weren't getting coverage or excluded due to preexisting conditions.  My comment was a rebuttal of Cubs right wing vomit:

 

Loser politicians like Obama that are more interested in being with their Davos buddies & George Clooney rather than taking care of the American citizens. 

 

Cheers!

 

 

Posted (edited)

Bill Gates Accuses Elon Musk of ‘Killing Children’ by Cutting Foreign Aid

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/bill-gates-elon-musk-killing-children.html

 

“He could go on to be a great philanthropist,” Mr. Gates told the magazine. “In the meantime, the world’s richest man has been involved in the deaths of the world’s poorest children.”

“The picture of the world’s richest man killing the world’s poorest children is not a pretty one,” he said.

Edited by Charlie
Posted
11 hours ago, james22 said:

 

Are you suggesting I'm a racist, Spooky?

 

There is definitely an element of racism underlying far right immigration positions. For instance, the statement that all "immigrants from Afghanistan, Turkey or Pakistan need to go back where they came from". Or your statement about "compatible cultures" - all human beings are created with virtually identical genetics, it is just the luck of the draw where you are born. 

 

Personally I subscribe to this line from the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Spooky said:

 

There is definitely an element of racism underlying far right immigration positions. For instance, the statement that all "immigrants from Afghanistan, Turkey or Pakistan need to go back where they came from". Or your statement about "compatible cultures" - all human beings are created with virtually identical genetics, it is just the luck of the draw where you are born. 

 

Personally I subscribe to this line from the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Except that they are not.   Look at crime rates among Afghans in Germany versus Ukrainians.  Look at employment rates of Syrians versus Poles.  Look at who commit terrorist acts around the world - it is Afghans, Pakistanis, Arabs, Chechens.  It is not Ukrainians, Russians, Poles, or Mexicans or Chinese or Indians or Koreans.  Name me one Islamic country where non-Muslim minorities are treated well!  Where are the Bahai and Zoroastrians of Iran?  Where are the Christians of Bukhara?  What happened to Christians in the Ottoman Empire?  What was does to Yezedies and Assyrians in Iraq?  What is being done to Alawites and Druze in Syria?  What happened to Christians in Lebanon?  You don't see Chinese or Mexicans in the US demanding special accommodation, try to have a pretty girl in a mini skirt walk in an Arab/Turkish neighborhood in Germany/France and see what happens.  A Jew can walk in a skull cap in a Chinese neighborhood in the US/Europe, nothing will happen, now try the experiment in an Arab/Pakistani/Turkish neighborhood.  Islam has no tolerance for non-Muslims, read the Koran!   It is there in black and white!

Jews were expelled from Iraq, a place where they had lived for more than 2,500 years after being brought there against their will.  Same thing happened in Iran - Jews were forcibly brought there 2,500 years ago, and again forced out.   These things did not happen when Zoroastrians ran Persia, these things did not happen when Iraq was run by Christians.  Happened under Muslim rule.  

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