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This virus has no symptoms initially. By the time you have fever, it need to be treated very quickly. But a lot of people died because they couldn’t be admitted to the hospital.

This is a country who gave billions to Africa and boosted about their Trillion dollar GDP, yet they don’t even have enough masks at times like this?!

 

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This virus has no symptoms initially. By the time you have fever, it need to be treated very quickly. But a lot of people died because they couldn’t be admitted to the hospital.

This is a country who gave billions to Africa and boosted about their Trillion dollar GDP, yet they don’t even have enough masks at times like this?!

 

It has masks but not for its people. Wuhan Red Cross intercepted over 36000 N95 mask donations and sent it to an abortion clinic.

China also donated 30 Million masks to Hong Kong

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The Shanghai market opens on monday, after being closed six business days for Chinese New Year. Since the exchange closed on Jan-23, the viral impact on China has materially worsened. Friday last week; the S&P fell 2%, and the Dow 600 points, on fears of contagion.

 

Wuhan is where things get made in China. Inventories were deliberately elevated going into New Year, they aren't any more; and a great many workers will still be under 'quarantine' for about another week. Universities have begun shutting down the last half of their Winter semesters, in favour of resuming over the Spring/Summer.

 

Container shipping time from Wuhan to the US West Coast is about 6-10 weeks  from factory gate to inland warehouse - net of rail, trans-shipping, and customs clearing. Starting in April, today's 'quarantine' impacts in Wuhan, show up in the US. Offshore 'outsourcing' is already being affected.

 

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100% agree.

 

Its funny, everyone looses their shit if politics come up ever because "its an investing board". Here, incidentally, a situation with great investment ramifications? And everyone is indulging in fear mongering and running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

 

The market tanked 600 points Friday in fear of the weekend. This weekend? A whopping total of 1 new case in the US and 1 death outside of China(even though the person dying was Chinese, from Wuhan). Its crazy people still believe much of whats put out there by the media.

 

Personally, I'd expect futures open up a couple hundred points. But based on hysteria maybe we'll get lucky and see more of a sell off. Based on "to date" knee jerks, 1 confirmed US case and that "1 maybe" in NYC probably equates to another -500 day..

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Bull market in doom prophecy

 

But that said the economic effects in China will have ripples in OECD economies > SARS but how much bigger?

 

People are going to get paid, without producing ie staying at home in the worst off cities, SOEs and private biz need liquidity, state will backstop banks to provide that liquidity.

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This virus has no symptoms initially. By the time you have fever, it need to be treated very quickly. But a lot of people died because they couldn’t be admitted to the hospital.

This is a country who gave billions to Africa and boosted about their Trillion dollar GDP, yet they don’t even have enough masks at times like this?!

 

It has masks but not for its people. Wuhan Red Cross intercepted over 36000 N95 mask donations and sent it to an abortion clinic.

China also donated 30 Million masks to Hong Kong

 

Any source for your mask donation to hk comment? The news I see from hk is all about people desperate for masks and lining up overnight for them.  One video shows literally thousand+ ppl lining up at a small pharmacy.  Another news shows masks made by hk prisoners ending up in guangdong province

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The guy who took this video in the morning yesterday was arrested at around 7 pm in the evening. He asked the police what was wrong, and the police charged him for "Having a different voice than the government". Jeez... Are we in North Korea?

 

Later a ton of people online supported him, and the police was forced to release him. He rented a bike and has to bike 3 hours to get home.

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initial reporting that anti-flu and anti-HIV drugs used in combination showing promise:  https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/thai-doctors-cure-coronavirus-patient-using-powerful-aids-drugs.

 

this is of course very early but...

 

Didn't Zerohedge just get banned from Twitter for spreading false info about this?

 

that is the problem.  twitter is in no position to separate fact and fiction, so it (@jack) just decides on its own what is fake news and acts with its head up its ass.  ZH is way over the top in its Fed analysis, imo, but on other matters it is sometimes right.  like daily mail since it reports quickly it is sometimes wrong.

 

edit:  the "false" info was that after decoding, the virus shows certain genetic similarities to HIV which gave rise to speculation that it was engineered in the Wuhan bio-engineering facility as a potential bioweapon...which of course is speculation, but there is nothing fake about this, though it is speculation that I am sure the Chinese communist party doesnt like

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Elderberry = Sambucus nigra (Sambucol is a brand name)

 

Sambucus nigra extracts inhibit infectious bronchitis virus at an early point during replication

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3899428/

 

Infectious bronchitis virus (IBV) is a pathogenic chicken coronavirus.

 

Conclusions

These results demonstrate that S. nigra extract can inhibit IBV at an early point in infection, probably by rendering the virus non-infectious.

 

Not sure if it would work on the current Wuhan Coronavirus but you can buy 2 bottles at Costco for ~$25 FYI.

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initial reporting that anti-flu and anti-HIV drugs used in combination showing promise:  https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/thai-doctors-cure-coronavirus-patient-using-powerful-aids-drugs.

 

this is of course very early but...

 

Didn't Zerohedge just get banned from Twitter for spreading false info about this?

 

Twitter is a censor hell, just like Facebook. They've become too big and governments use them like they use their other news outlets: propaganda and controlling their narrative of the truth.

 

Luckily you can still visit websites directly: www.zerohedge.com

If that ever gets stopped (there are precedents in the western world), there's always the old trusty VPN solution.

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