India

[sundin]

^Quite the reach to get that quotation from Kash that Indian media has used. The anchor brought up 'Khalistan' many times and the one time he uses the word is what goes viral. lol  The full byte talks about the issue being prevalent in general society and many groups being complicit. 

 

Indian media has shifted from shitting on Trudeau/Canada to now trying to find anything to justify the murder and perception of Nijjar - A lot of which is just tangents/hearsay. Makes me think not much is there. 
 

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On the 2016 Interpol citation Nijar  was investigated by the RCMP and CSIS and in following wrote to the government -

“Because of my campaign for Sikh rights, it’s my belief that I have become a target of an Indian government campaign to label my human rights campaign as terrorist activities,” the letter written by Nijjar to Trudeau said. https://nationalpost.com/news/hardeep-singh-nijjar-letter-to-trudeau
 

 

"India ‘weaponizing global anti-terror fund’ to target NGOs, says Amnesty"
The Indian government has exploited the assessment reports of a global money laundering and terrorist financing watchdog to target “legitimate human rights work of civil society”, a new report by Amnesty International said. ...This has been done under the “guise of combating terrorism”, Amnesty International’s India chair Aakar Patel said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/india-fatf-amnesty-terrorism-funding-latest-report-b2419340.html

 

 

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s BJP party and its Hindu nationalist allies have perfected using social media to spread inflammatory, often false and bigoted material on an industrial scale, earning both envy and condemnation beyond India’s borders.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/26/hindu-nationalist-social-media-hate-campaign/


 

[Xerxes]

4 hours ago, Spekulatius said:

I watch sometimes WION and it does feel like government propaganda. This is not the case with Al Jazeera, even though Al Jazeera is controlled by Qatari government.

 

On another note, I am also surprised that some people here think it's a good thing that the Indian government would sent out kill squads to Canadian citizens in Canada because they are accused of terrorism in India.

 

Personally, I would be distraught if the German government sent out a hit men to Canada to kill a Canadian citizen of German origin (or even German citizen). Such a government should be fired in my opinion, doesn't even matter if the accusation is true or not.

 

@Luca

please “love” or “thumbs up” this post for me. 
 

[Luke]

8 hours ago, Xerxes said:

 

@Luca

please “love” or “thumbs up” this post for me. 
 

Done. 

 

 

[Parsad]

On 9/27/2023 at 12:21 PM, Haryana said:

Kash Heed

Kash P. Heed is a former Canadian politician, who was elected as a BC Liberal Member of the Legislative Assembly of British Columbia in the 2009 provincial election, representing the riding of Vancouver-Fraserview.
He formerly served as the Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General.
He was formerly chief constable of the West Vancouver Police Department and a former superintendent with the Vancouver Police Department and was the first Indo-Canadian police chief in Canada.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kash_Heed)

 

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Kash Heed said there are organised crime groups and terrorist groups operating in Canada and it has been a long-standing issue. To a question on a web of Khalistani terror in the country, he said it is not limited to South Asian groups, but other ethnic groups as well.
"It's prevalent, whether you want to identify it as a Khalistani group or as other Asian-based organised groups, it's quite prevalent in Canada. They are making a lot of money, and it's mainly because of the sale of drugs and weapons," he said.

 

 

 

This is no different than other countries.  There are terrorist groups in the United States and India, both domestic and foreign.  The United States is inundated with Mexican drug cartels, their money, influence and carnage.  India has a diaspora of terrorist groups from Tamil, Khalistani, Pakistani, etc living in India.

 

Canada doesn't allow terrorists here anymore than any other country.  They come in under normal immigration/refugee rules like everyone else in this country and every other country.  Many circumvent the system using forged documents, etc and then send money back to their country to support their activities.  

 

If you think it is any different in any other country, then explain how 9/11 happened?  Cheers!

[patience_and_focus]

There is open celebration and mural depiction in 2023 in Brampton, Ontario of the killing of then Indian Prime Minister (Indra Gandhi) 40 years back

 

https://www.insauga.com/parade-float-of-indira-gandhi-assassination-in-brampton-slammed-by-indian-government/

 

 

The views espoused here are not new, in one form or another going on for decades, a lot of this translates to fundraising and logistics, to say the least, behind the scenes and disregard of it by the Canadian government.

 

It is unfortunate because this liberal and open tolerance only inflames and causes more right wing hardline views and actions from the other side (Indians and their govt). Rationality, empathy and finding middle ground is lost completely.

 

Sikhs and Hindus in India have made peace since those god awful 1980s, they had a sikh prime minister and vibrant democracy in Punjab. But gobbles of money keeps flowing to the radicalized few from the west funding the insurgency (particularly from Canada).

 

Interesting is that the current right wing Hindu nationalist party in power (BJP) frequently aligns with sikh political parties and is a bitter rival of the INC party run by the grandson of Indra Gandhi (Rahul Gandhi). But they are now uniting and taking a hard line on this. 

Edited October 1, 2023 by patience_and_focus

[no_free_lunch]

15 minutes ago, patience_and_focus said:

There is open celebration and mural depiction in 2023 in Brampton, Ontario of the killing of then Indian Prime Minister (Indra Gandhi) 40 years back

 

https://www.insauga.com/parade-float-of-indira-gandhi-assassination-in-brampton-slammed-by-indian-government/

 

 

The views espoused here are not new, in one form or another going on for decades, a lot of this translates to fundraising and logistics, to say the least, behind the scenes and disregard of it by the Canadian government.

 

It is unfortunate because this liberal and open tolerance only inflames and causes more right wing hardline views and actions from the other side (Indians and their govt). Rationality, empathy and finding middle ground is lost completely.

 

Sikhs and Hindus in India have made peace since those god awful 1980s, they had a sikh prime minister and vibrant democracy in Punjab. But gobbles of money keeps flowing to the radicalized few from the west funding the insurgency (particularly from Canada).

 

Interesting is that the current right wing Hindu nationalist party in power (BJP) frequently aligns with sikh political parties and is a bitter rival of the INC party run by the grandson of Indra Gandhi (Rahul Gandhi). But they are now uniting and taking a hard line on this. 

Thanks for posting.  Scary but not surprising.  This is confirmed, here is a Canadian link to what I believe is the same event.

 

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/06/08/india-angered-sikh-parade-float-portraying-assassination/

[sundin]

Espousing views is the crux of the issue here. Last I checked, India irrespective of party and affiliation regards Udham Singh - the murderer of British governor Michael O'Dwyer as a national hero. Quite contrary to Gandhi school of thought.

 

Majority of Sikhs AND BJP insiders including Modi denounce Indira Gandhi for the same reasons, acting like the parade is an affront is just politics and a shift of focus. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/modis-attack-on-akal-takht-remark-shift-from-centres-line/articleshow/102666485.cms?from=mdr

 

Murdering a Canadian on Canadian soil which is unacceptable for maintenance of any global order. 

 

 

 

[whatstheofficerproblem]

3 hours ago, sundin said:

Espousing views is the crux of the issue here.

 

I don't think so. I for one am not a fan of Indira and neither do I take any offence to their views on Indira. It is not the same when they very openly talk about balkanizing the country.

[whatstheofficerproblem]

 

[sundin]

If its just talking about Balkanization, why should western countries care? India seceded from the British benefiting from talks about balkanization in California and BC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghadar_Movement) Similarly, we talk about CCP and its respective issues with HK and Taiwan from a Western perspective and a One China policy. 

 

As far as India, I believe there has been a regime change in the last decade for the worse. India is a federate of states that can't have division along the lines of caste/language/region/religion to remain strong and unified. It's like a continent of different cultures, as if Africa were to be one country - practically needs unity to survive. The Modi govt doesn;t have best record here.

 

Some good takes below:  

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/30/world/canada/modi-canada-hindu-nationalism.html?smid=url-share

 

https://x.com/FareedZakaria/status/1708550119094648858?s=20

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by sundin

[mohdnawfal]

What are some investing resources that are unique to India? I've come across Equitymaster and Dalal Street Investment Journal but haven't found anything else. Is there a Valueline/Japan Company Handbook equivalent?

[PJM]

Capitaline.com (closest to Valueline)

Screener.in

Trendlyne.com

Tijorfinance.com

[Haryana]

US Mission to India surpasses one million Visa

US envoy to India, Eric Garcetti, expresses happiness over surpassing the goal to process one million non-immigrant visa applications in 2023.  |  https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/us-mission-to-india-surpasses-one-million-visa/videoshow/104010979.cms

 

 

[Haryana]

 

[pranay]

On 10/1/2023 at 1:36 PM, sundin said:

Espousing views is the crux of the issue here. Last I checked, India irrespective of party and affiliation regards Udham Singh - the murderer of British governor Michael O'Dwyer as a national hero. Quite contrary to Gandhi school of thought.

 

Majority of Sikhs AND BJP insiders including Modi denounce Indira Gandhi for the same reasons, acting like the parade is an affront is just politics and a shift of focus. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/modis-attack-on-akal-takht-remark-shift-from-centres-line/articleshow/102666485.cms?from=mdr

 

Murdering a Canadian on Canadian soil which is unacceptable for maintenance of any global order. 

 

 

 

Not sure why O'Dwyer being killed is seen as something negative.

Killing slave owners is a generally good thing.

[Xerxes]

Meanwhile looks like Modi is scrambling to save face with Qatar government after its sailors were caught spying. The eight are facing the death penalty. 
 

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/India-lobbies-for-8-nationals-facing-death-penalty-in-Qatar

 

but worry not a local YouTuber says it is masterstroke by Modi. Came up first on the search engine. 
 

[Xerxes]

5 hours ago, Haryana said:

 

 

Negative news but thanks for "party popping" here as well!

 

What made you move to your "new base in Kuala Lumpur"?

 

 

i am on a self directed tour in south east Asia. Seeing five cities in three countries. Kuala Lumpur was two cities ago. So already left. 
 

Now in north of Thailand in Chiangmai.
Will probably do Vietnam and the rest of Thailand in 2024 on a different tour.    

 

Hope to be able to do this in India soon. Assuming I can figure out which part to tackle first. The sheer size of India is staggering. But like compounding I guess you never start until you start. 

[Gamecock-YT]

Cricket team going down in flames

[Xerxes]

This must be a mistake and a mixup 

 

 

White House spokesperson, Adrienne Watson, said in a statement that Indian officials “expressed surprise and concern” at the accusations, suggesting extraterritorial assassinations were “not their policy”.

 

“We understand the Indian government is further investigating this issue and will have more to say about it in the coming days. We have conveyed our expectation that anyone deemed responsible should be held accountable,” said Watson.

 

 

[whatstheofficerproblem]

On 11/19/2023 at 8:09 AM, Gamecock-YT said:

Cricket team going down in flames

 

The Aussies won the match, but we won the hearts.

[vinod1]

30 minutes ago, whatstheofficerproblem said:

 

The Aussies won the match, but we won the hearts.

 

Yup! India has a history of winning hearts. Again and again.  

 

2014 T20 WC Final:       Lost
2015 WC Semis:             Lost
2016 T20 WC Semis:     Lost
2017 CT final:                 Lost
2019 WC Semis:             Lost
2021 WTC final:              Lost
2022 T20 WC Semis:     Lost
2023 WTC final:             Lost
2023 WC Final:               Lost

 

Copied this from twitter. Just thought it is funny.

[Gamecock-YT]

16 hours ago, Haryana said:

  

 

 

In recently concluded World Cup, India was the only country to win all 9 round-robin matches.

 

Then they won the semi-final and lost the final; which was a loss after winning streak of 10.

 

You can call that a shooting star or going down in flames, depending on your bias/propaganda. 

 

https://www.cricketworldcup.com/standings

 

 

 

Regardless, India is currently #1 on all three formats of Cricket: 

1. 

Men's T20I Team Rankings

https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/team-rankings/t20i

 

2. 

Men's ODI Team Rankings

https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/team-rankings/odi

 

3. 

Men's Test Team Rankings

https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/team-rankings/test

 

 

 

lol, the truth hurts I guess. #1 in the sport but haven't won a trophy since 2011. So congrats on being the Tottenham Hotspurs of the sport.

 

 

[Haryana]

 

Not hurt about losing the semifinals or finals. I am unbiased and see the trophies as insignificant images of vanity.

 

Do you realize what a rare feat of achievement is to be #1 on all 3 formats at the same time? 

 

Human attitude displayed by you guys totally explains the discounted share price of Fairfax. 

 

The company is firing on all cylinders and the people have their focus on where they went wrong like Blackberry. 

 

[Parsad]

On 11/22/2023 at 1:31 PM, Xerxes said:

This must be a mistake and a mixup 

 

 

White House spokesperson, Adrienne Watson, said in a statement that Indian officials “expressed surprise and concern” at the accusations, suggesting extraterritorial assassinations were “not their policy”.

 

“We understand the Indian government is further investigating this issue and will have more to say about it in the coming days. We have conveyed our expectation that anyone deemed responsible should be held accountable,” said Watson.

 

 

 

Nope.  It was a U.S. sting that caught the assassin.  He was to take out the lawyer for the Vancouver sikh who was killed a few months ago.  They also had a couple of other targets they were assigned to take out.  

 

This is very, very ugly for Modi and India.  Reeks of the shit that Saudi Arabia was doing with Jamal Khashoggi.  

 

Will it get whitewashed like that incident, or will Modi's head be delivered on a platter in the next election?  Cheers!

[Xerxes]

54 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

Nope.  It was a U.S. sting that caught the assassin.  He was to take out the lawyer for the Vancouver sikh who was killed a few months ago.  They also had a couple of other targets they were assigned to take out.  

 

This is very, very ugly for Modi and India.  Reeks of the shit that Saudi Arabia was doing with Jamal Khashoggi.  

 

Will it get whitewashed like that incident, or will Modi's head be delivered on a platter in the next election?  Cheers!

this won’t be factor in India domestic affairs. In fact conducting assassination on foreign soil is often sign of great power status. 

 

Nor do I think this will be a major international issue. The Five Eyes will be just recalibrate slightly and tune down their rapprochement with Delhi. 
 

The Khashoggi was different and special as it was done in the most clumsy and disgusting way possible. Body being chopped off and thrown into acid inside of an embassy. And it involved two rivals: Turkey, the heir to the sultans, and the Kingdom, the up and coming leader of its block. 
 

Canada/US are not competing with India nor are they rivals. India however sees itself as a non-aligned world beholden to no one. There was interesting interview that The Economist had with the head of India foreign affairs back in summer before the whole thing blow up. It was very clear that Delhi was going to be transactional in its foreign policy. That is fine by me. As it is not for me to opine with whom other countries should be align to. As much as I like to have close relationship with Delhi.  

Edited November 30, 2023 by Xerxes