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4 hours ago, Parsad said:

You guys won't believe it, but I'm a centrist.  Balanced budget, strong country, low debt, good economy, progressive values, support for those that cannot take care of themselves or are in true need of assistance.  I'm also in favor of legal immigration, due process, compassionate immigration (to a degree), good education, universal healthcare with a strong private healthcare sector and believe in climate change...I trust science and medicine.  I'm also not nationalistic...I believe Canada can play a significant role globally and we have a duty to do so.  So put me where I belong on that political spectrum!  Cheers!

That's my entire family of businessmen; a big family in many businesses for decades.   

Posted
4 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Push comes to shove they’re an empty, leaderless clown show that only seems to wake up in the morning, still, to be team “get Trump”. But you can’t deny that, especially after the showing last night, that their ethos isn’t still very Hillary Clinton inspired. That cold, butch, nasty women attitude is undeniable.

The option of having new era Democrats in power is not acceptable.  The option to have Trump-like's isn't acceptable either.  But if Trump politics becomes unpopular we get Democrats, so we need someone who doesn't send us to socialism.

 

 

Posted
48 minutes ago, dealraker said:

The option of having new era Democrats in power is not acceptable.  The option to have Trump-like's isn't acceptable either.  But if Trump politics becomes unpopular we get Democrats, so we need someone who doesn't send us to socialism.

 

 

 

This is exactly how I feel. It seems like bleak prospects for anything other than new era democrats or MAGA. 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Red Lion said:

This is exactly how I feel. It seems like bleak prospects for anything other than new era democrats or MAGA. 

 

Hate to say it ... but it's one of the reasons that assassination keeps rising to the top of the heap. Were this the Ayatollah in Iran there would be little discussion as to the desirability/method of regime change; quite a bit different though, when it's your own guy.

 

Same as in pool, break the rack wide open (No Trump, No MAGA, etc), and there are now opportunities ... for the young and ambitious, of both sides. Little different to the 1923 Sherman Anti-Trust Breakup of the Rockefeller Standard Oil Trust .... when the scum were way more ruthless, and much better at what they did 😅.

 

Point is that if the political process can't fix it, the US has a long history of precedents that do. Few would dispute that the US might have developed very differently had a Kennedy, or a Martin Luther King not been assassinated. Same thing had the attempts on Reagan and Roosevelt ultimately been successful. Not what many would prefer to consider, and sadly, no longer a remote possibility.

 

Many a German, Italian, and Japanese fortune, post WWII, owes its genesis to founders who successfully hedged against the potential of their respective nation loosing the conflict.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

 

SD

 

 

 

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Posted

Epstein takes out Gates and Summers...release the damn files without redactions!  Humble pie and cancel culture for these douche bags!

 

How does one of the smartest men in the last 50 years not know that he should not be hanging around with a convicted pedo after the conviction?  He didn't look it up or something according to Gates!

 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/25/business/larry-summers-retire-harvard-epstein

 

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein

 

Buffett warned everyone...don't straddle the line if you don't want your family to read about you in the news the next day!

 

I'm also sure Hillary is wishing she had the balls to leave her Bill like Melinda Gates did...now suck it up and deal with it!  Buffett always admired Melinda Gates.  Cheers!

Posted
6 hours ago, RichardGibbons said:

The only issue is that Trudeau came along and had an excuse to blow everything up.

 

2020 massive deficit spend was due to COVID, not Trudeau in particular. Same situation in the US and many other countries.

Posted
20 minutes ago, LC said:

 

2020 massive deficit spend was due to COVID, not Trudeau in particular. Same situation in the US and many other countries.

 

Yes, but isn't it strange that after the pandemic, the deficit normalized at the $50B range, rather than, say, $0 or even a high number like $10B? In fact, we would have been way, way ahead if we had simply stabilized at the pre-Trudeau record high deficit.

Posted
7 hours ago, dealraker said:

The option of having new era Democrats in power is not acceptable.  The option to have Trump-like's isn't acceptable either.  But if Trump politics becomes unpopular we get Democrats, so we need someone who doesn't send us to socialism.

 

 

Charlie the two party system is destroying us. That’s all there is to it

Posted
1 hour ago, RichardGibbons said:

 

Yes, but isn't it strange that after the pandemic, the deficit normalized at the $50B range, rather than, say, $0 or even a high number like $10B? In fact, we would have been way, way ahead if we had simply stabilized at the pre-Trudeau record high deficit.

 

+1!  Yup...it's like the new normal for deficits happened after the pandemic.  Fiscal responsibility went out the window...now they blame it on the tariffs and the economic environment.  We can't grow our way out...so let's spend our way out.  At least Carney is trying to expand trade and reduce non-private sector jobs.  I hope he takes a page from Martin & Chretien as things get better!  Cheers!

Posted

Ilhan Omar's guest arrested for protesting during State of the Union...by standing up and not sitting down!  Hilarious!  

 

Apparently according to the article and quote by a Capitol police spokesperson..."It is illegal to disrupt the Congress and demonstrate in the congressional buildings.”

 

Hmmm...so what about January 6th?  Pardons all around for the illegal, insurrectionist mob!  Those fuckers weren't just standing...many had weapons...destroying property, offices, papers...injuring Capitol Police...attempting to enter the Congressional chamber with politicians in there.

 

Cheers!

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ilhan-omar-guest-arrested-standing-190925496.html

Posted
9 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Charlie the two party system is destroying us. That’s all there is to it

 

We got the right guy in charge to fix it!

 

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, LC said:

 

We got the right guy in charge to fix it!

 

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Man that’s over a decade ago

 

That Barry O speech was 7 years after Dubyas peeps gave Epstein the plea deal, which means probably during that exact speech JE was committing further atrocities that no Democrats would care about until February 2025….they were saving their allotted concerns for the victims I suppose. Or maybe their plan was to maximize the amount of victims so as to seem as concerned as possible? A form of virtue signaling? IDK strange bunch 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Charlie the two party system is destroying us. That’s all there is to it

 

Don't often agree with you but in my humble opinion that is the most succinct summation of the root of American's  most serious problem I have seen.  Well said.

Posted

The problem is the electorate.  As Churchill said: The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.  But as he also said:  Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

 

So until the electorate becomes more sophisticated, which is never, we will live with the inanity.  At my age the best solution for me is to tactfully disengage.  

Posted
2 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

The problem is the electorate.  As Churchill said: The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.  But as he also said:  Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

 

So until the electorate becomes more sophisticated, which is never, we will live with the inanity.  At my age the best solution for me is to tactfully disengage.  

correct, so the problem is the system that let's people vote who shouldn't be. You can't educate people with mental disorders and Iq's below 80 for example. Also, you can't change man with a hammer syndrome, generational welfare. If these groups constitute 40% of the pop, it's inevitable what'll happen. My bro has a mental disorder, he definitely shouldn't vote. The only reason he's not on the street is his family. "Some think he's jesus, others think he's not, millions are watching him because of this" and there's the "aliens who tell him to commit suicide". He can vote. People who can't read can vote. etc etc

Posted
2 minutes ago, flesh said:

correct, so the problem is the system that let's people vote who shouldn't be. You can't educate people with mental disorders and Iq's below 80 for example. Also, you can't change man with a hammer syndrome, generational welfare. If these groups constitute 40% of the pop, it's inevitable what'll happen. My bro has a mental disorder, he definitely shouldn't vote. The only reason he's not on the street is his family. "Some think he's jesus, others think he's not, millions are watching him because of this" and there's the "aliens who tell him to commit suicide". He can vote. People who can't read can vote. etc etc

Who is to say who should vote?  The way I see it, the problem is NOT ENOUGH people bother to vote.  Some of the same people who are often frequently outspoken about political issues on social media.  Reconcile that.

Posted
3 minutes ago, flesh said:

correct, so the problem is the system that let's people vote who shouldn't be. You can't educate people with mental disorders and Iq's below 80 for example. Also, you can't change man with a hammer syndrome, generational welfare. If these groups constitute 40% of the pop, it's inevitable what'll happen. My bro has a mental disorder, he definitely shouldn't vote. The only reason he's not on the street is his family. "Some think he's jesus, others think he's not, millions are watching him because of this" and there's the "aliens who tell him to commit suicide". He can vote. People who can't read can vote. etc etc

I tend to agree it is the 2 party system.  Few options and people vote against candidates more than for them.  Theres also nothing like a majority formed by a coalition of polar opposite parties to get checks and balances. 

 

Blaming the electorate isnt the problem. Thats been the case for 250 years and things have worked out pretty well.  And id guess that 200 years ago barely half of the electorate could read or even knew what was going on outside their town. 

 

Shockingly, I agree with @73 Reds that a hugr part of it is apathy and people not bothering to vote - and then having the gall to complain about who got elected. 

Posted

Ya I know it’s not popular. I’m with the founders on limiting voting. The way to implement it, would be equal in a meritocratic sort of way. 
 

Have a 12 ? Multiple choice test required that required something like a 5th grade level of understanding of govt. 

 

this would eliminate the lazy, super low iq’s, many of the crazies, the illiterate, and those that are signed up by others to vote effectively. Taking the test would be made available to all in public places or online etc at any time. 
 

If the founders had implemented this in the first place, I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone thought it perfectly normal now. 

Posted
21 minutes ago, flesh said:

Ya I know it’s not popular. I’m with the founders on limiting voting. The way to implement it, would be equal in a meritocratic sort of way. 
 

Have a 12 ? Multiple choice test required that required something like a 5th grade level of understanding of govt. 

 

this would eliminate the lazy, super low iq’s, many of the crazies, the illiterate, and those that are signed up by others to vote effectively. Taking the test would be made available to all in public places or online etc at any time. 
 

If the founders had implemented this in the first place, I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone thought it perfectly normal now. 

I disagree.  The government represents everybody, not just those with a hurdle rate IQ or can pass a basic civics test (keep in mind huge numbers of Americans notoriously fail the most basic geography, history and civics tests).  Everyone thinks theyre above average intelligence and obviously that cant be true. 

 

The whole idea is that while there will always be outliers, groups as a whole are very effective in getting the right answer.  People usually only have issues with it when those groups arent voting the way you want them to vote. 

Posted
41 minutes ago, flesh said:

Ya I know it’s not popular. I’m with the founders on limiting voting. The way to implement it, would be equal in a meritocratic sort of way. 
 

Have a 12 ? Multiple choice test required that required something like a 5th grade level of understanding of govt. 

 

this would eliminate the lazy, super low iq’s, many of the crazies, the illiterate, and those that are signed up by others to vote effectively. Taking the test would be made available to all in public places or online etc at any time. 
 

If the founders had implemented this in the first place, I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone thought it perfectly normal now. 

Polling tests were outlawed as being discriminatory.  I don't think they are but I also think anyone of age should be entitled to vote, and should vote (or otherwise, stop complaining).  Government for the people and by the people means just that.  

Posted
1 hour ago, dwy000 said:

I tend to agree it is the 2 party system.  Few options and people vote against candidates more than for them.  Theres also nothing like a majority formed by a coalition of polar opposite parties to get checks and balances. 

 

Blaming the electorate isnt the problem. Thats been the case for 250 years and things have worked out pretty well.  And id guess that 200 years ago barely half of the electorate could read or even knew what was going on outside their town. 

 

Shockingly, I agree with @73 Reds that a hugr part of it is apathy and people not bothering to vote - and then having the gall to complain about who got elected. 

I don’t think it’s an education issue.  We are more educated on paper than ever. I think it may be more about emotional maturity. 

Posted
5 hours ago, LC said:

Better watch out Sanjeev, Palantir's bots are scanning our online activity...we wouldn't want you to end up like this guy! 

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/canadian-man-in-ice-custody-says-he-thought-agents-were-only-focusing-on-criminals-and-murderers/

 

 

 

LOL!  No intention on going anywhere in the United States for the foreseeable future.  Will travel to Europe and through Canada every year...not going to the U.S...period!  Most of my family doesn't go to the U.S. either.  Niece and nephews U.S. tournaments...most have not been going.  My buddy who is MAGA gets me my stock of Kerry Gold Irish Butter from Washington State whenever he goes shopping!  Can't get Kerry Gold in BC...just the best better in the world!  Cheers!

Posted
5 hours ago, LC said:

 

We got the right guy in charge to fix it!

 

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And I thought that guy already made an Iran Nuclear Deal...that was killed by the guy below him!  LOL!  Cheers!

Posted
29 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Polling tests were outlawed as being discriminatory.  I don't think they are but I also think anyone of age should be entitled to vote, and should vote (or otherwise, stop complaining).  Government for the people and by the people means just that.  

The question is whether Australia has it right or not.  In Australia you get fined for not voting. My freedom loving views suggest this takes it too far but its an interesting idea. 

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