cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Hey - I hope everything gets worked out. Trump and China Carney took the gloves off. As far as I am concerned, I have not seen anything sign of a thaw. That hockey brawl is coming. We'll see what happens after that. "Trump and China Carney" Why do you call Carney him that? Trump and your country is China's second largest customer - many, many times the Canada China trade. it is you and the US citizens who are supporting China by their purchase of Chinese products. I believe the US is China's second largest customer, while Canada is 17th, just a fraction of what the US buys from China. Don't you mean China Trump.
Parsad Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, cwericb said: Yeah, what's with this Idea of Trumps that he doesn't want to trade with any other countries and then gets pissed off when those other countries then go to do deals with new partners. Duh what does he expect. Like with Canada, Doesn't want to trade with us and has a hissey fit when we do deals elsewhere. Kind of delusional. Essentially lots of good looking women turning down his advances and not caring how rich or powerful he is...no wonder he's having massive hissy fits! They just aren't interested in him grabbing their woo-hahs anymore!! Cheers!
cubsfan Posted January 28 Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, cwericb said: "Trump and China Carney" Why do you call Carney him that? Trump and your country is China's second largest customer - many, many times the Canada China trade. it is you and the US citizens who are supporting China by their purchase of Chinese products. I believe the US is China's second largest customer, while Canada is 17th, just a fraction of what the US buys from China. Don't you mean China Trump. Yeah, Commie Carney is probably better. The US is reducing dependence on China. Watch your back with President Xi - the US found out the hard way they target your citizens with viruses, drugs - your politicians with bribes - and hollow out your manufacturing. China definitely needs you as we move away from them.
Parsad Posted January 28 Posted January 28 11 minutes ago, cwericb said: "Trump and China Carney" Why do you call Carney him that? Trump and your country is China's second largest customer - many, many times the Canada China trade. it is you and the US citizens who are supporting China by their purchase of Chinese products. I believe the US is China's second largest customer, while Canada is 17th, just a fraction of what the US buys from China. Don't you mean China Trump. Exactly! The only reason China has so much economic and military power today is because you U.S. nards wanted cheap goods...including Trump's ties, bibles, watches, etc. All made in CHI-na and sold to U.S. MAGA schmucks for 4 times what it cost to make! Enjoy sucking on Trump's tariff teat as well! Cheers!
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Parsad said: Exactly! The only reason China has so much economic and military power today is because you U.S. nards wanted cheap goods...including Trump's ties, bibles, watches, etc. All made in CHI-na and sold to U.S. MAGA schmucks for 4 times what it cost to make! Enjoy sucking on Trump's tariff teat as well! Cheers! It is sad to see the President of the USA personally selling selling cheap Chinese knock offs, Teslas at the Whitehouse, and even BIBLES and then, then he has the nerve to criticize others for dealing with China. But I guess you shouldn't expect much from a convicted felon who has a trail of bankruptcies. Remember when the President of the US was such a role model.
John Hjorth Posted January 28 Posted January 28 5 hours ago, Parsad said: Essentially lots of good looking women turning down his advances and not caring how rich or powerful he is...no wonder he's having massive hissy fits! They just aren't interested in him grabbing their woo-hahs anymore!! Cheers! Eric [ @cwericb ] is always so patient with me and my language issues, this explanation by Sanjeev [ @Parsad ] however is like bending it in neon tubes, so every man can understand it! Great start on my Wednesday!
John Hjorth Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) More toestepping, condescending US behavior towards the pople of the Danish Realm : Euractiv - News, Politics [January 28th 2026] : US embassy removes flags with names of fallen Danish soldiers Subtitle : Copenhagen's mayor for environmental affairs, Line Barfoed called the move "disrespectful". - - - o 0 o - - - Other Danish news media report, speculate, it was a caretaker, or handyman ordered to do so.Those flowerboxes are placed there by Copenhagen Municipality, owning them and maintaning them, they are placed on the walkway, Copenhagen Municipality soil! Now everybody here is in self-occilating mode, horrified, offended! All Danish news media stirring the pot! Diplomatic suicide attempt by a US Embassy! - Noone can make this up! 'The US Embassy in Copenhagen unfortunately died under a suicide attempt!' Absolutely unsurpassed, unrivalled, unbeaten, unexampled, unequalled, second to none entertainment! The United States of America, please continue behaving like an elephant in a china boutique! More, please! Edited January 28 by John Hjorth
73 Reds Posted January 28 Posted January 28 11 hours ago, cwericb said: Well that is fine, no problem. Canada has been the United States biggest customer for US goods for years. Now think about that. How is that is bad for the US? Anyway, So we say okay you don't want to trade with us we will go elsewhere to buy and sell our import/exports to other countries. AND then Trump has a hissey fit. You can't have it both ways. LOL, the very definition of a hissy fit. Like cutting off your own nose to spite your face. Canada can threaten up, down and sideways but in the end they'll know who their friends are.
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: LOL, the very definition of a hissy fit. Like cutting off your own nose to spite your face. Canada can threaten up, down and sideways but in the end they'll know who their friends are. Interesting take. Spend much time in Canada lately - no? Yeah, I thought not. When one country is threatened and insulted by another it can take a long time to get over it. Canada (and many others) has learned an important lesson. The United States as a nation, can not and will not again be trusted in the foreseeable future. If you do not understand that it is because you, as do many Americans, isolate yourselves within your own country and are oblivious to what goes on within other countries. You say "... but in the end they'll know who their friends are." Yes we have learned that the hard way after being stabbed in the back by a supposed friend. I would dare say that Canada has many more true friends around the world than the USA, so yeah, we do know who our friends are.
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 28 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: LOL, the very definition of a hissy fit. Like cutting off your own nose to spite your face. Canada can threaten up, down and sideways but in the end they'll know who their friends are. PS. Where did you see I said Canada was threatening anything? It is the US throwing around threats. We are not threatening to take our trade elsewhere. Your Country slapped tariffs on our exports because YOUR country does not want to trade with us. Duh.
John Hjorth Posted January 28 Posted January 28 20 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: LOL, the very definition of a hissy fit. Like cutting off your own nose to spite your face. Canada can threaten up, down and sideways but in the end they'll know who their friends are. Naturally, @73 Reds, But short term, somebody have to do something. Just trying to be a good example for everybody else, in USA, Europe, whereever, and based on hearing about the Save America Movement, in a bold and decisive move earlier today, I decided to donate $1 to the Save America Movement, because of my sincere, heartfelt and thankful appreciation of the movements intiatives, mission, informatioal campain by now in Nuuk, telling the Greenlandic people about 'Americans aren't so'. Because we really have to stand shoulder by shoulder! I also seriously considered buying one share to The Lady of the House and I, respectively, in Grønlandsbanken A/S, GRLA.CPH, but that has run up a lot lately to, mind you, DKK 1.120! Purpose : Alone to keep those shares out of POTUS' reach and grabbing ventures. But that was too steep, too much for stingy John.
LC Posted January 28 Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, cwericb said: It is the US throwing around threats. We are not threatening to take our trade elsewhere. Your Country slapped tariffs on our exports because YOUR country does not want to trade with us. Duh. This has been a defining theme of Trump's administration: punching others in the face, then complaining "Why are you hitting yourself??"
Spekulatius Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 hours ago, cwericb said: Yeah, what's with this Idea of Trumps that he doesn't want to trade with any other countries and then gets pissed off when those other countries then go to do deals with new partners. Duh what does he expect. Like with Canada, Doesn't want to trade with us and has a hissey fit when we do deals elsewhere. Kind of delusional. Exactly. The easy fix of course is low or no tariffs. And while it is true that this all needs to get ratified, same is true for any of Trump’s trade deal as well. I also agree that things will not go back to normal once Trump is gone (regardless who is President next). The new normal will simply not look like the old normal.
73 Reds Posted January 28 Posted January 28 47 minutes ago, cwericb said: Interesting take. Spend much time in Canada lately - no? Yeah, I thought not. When one country is threatened and insulted by another it can take a long time to get over it. Canada (and many others) has learned an important lesson. The United States as a nation, can not and will not again be trusted in the foreseeable future. If you do not understand that it is because you, as do many Americans, isolate yourselves within your own country and are oblivious to what goes on within other countries. You say "... but in the end they'll know who their friends are." Yes we have learned that the hard way after being stabbed in the back by a supposed friend. I would dare say that Canada has many more true friends around the world than the USA, so yeah, we do know who our friends are. Evidently you didn't learn much from Carney's speech last week or take it to heart. A strong US is ultimately the best thing Canada could ever hope for - unless you plan on defending yourselves.
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 5 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Evidently you didn't learn much from Carney's speech last week or take it to heart. A strong US is ultimately the best thing Canada could ever hope for - unless you plan on defending yourselves. And we shall. However we always thought we would have to defend from the North, not the South.
73 Reds Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 minute ago, cwericb said: And we shall. However we always thought we would have to defend from the North, not the South. A stronger Canada is also good for the US. It took some prompting but hopefully you'll get there.
dwy000 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Evidently you didn't learn much from Carney's speech last week or take it to heart. A strong US is ultimately the best thing Canada could ever hope for - unless you plan on defending yourselves. Did you listen to the speech? The whole point was that Canada can no longer assume support and protection from the US without being bullied and will therefore need to develop stronger relationships and alliances with other parties. The EU seemed to hear it as well and signed a massive trade pact with India (after years and years of hemming and hawing)
73 Reds Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Just now, dwy000 said: Did you listen to the speech? The whole point was that Canada can no longer assume support and protection from the US without being bullied and will therefore need to develop stronger relationships and alliances with other parties. The EU seemed to hear it as well and signed a massive trade pact with India (after years and years of hemming and hawing) Just now, dwy000 said: Did you listen to the speech? The whole point was that Canada can no longer assume support and protection from the US without being bullied and will therefore need to develop stronger relationships and alliances with other parties. The EU seemed to hear it as well and signed a massive trade pact with India (after years and years of hemming and hawing) Hard love often results in hurt feelings. Canada will get over it.
Sweet Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: Canada can threaten up, down and sideways but in the end they'll know who their friends are. I don’t know what you are talking about, and yes I watched the Carney speech. We can’t divorce facts from this conversation no matter what side you come down on.
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 minute ago, 73 Reds said: Hard love often results in hurt feelings. Canada will get over it. Spoken by an American who seems to have a very limited knowledge of Canada and Canadians. Ya see your country is very divided and is having a very hard time coming to grips with the situation. Canada, on the other hand, has been quite divided on numerous issues over the. East - West, French - English, rich provinces - poor provinces, etc, but when external threats come from WWII, China, Russia, the US, it brings us together very quickly and we can lose our otherwise 'nice and polite' identity pretty quickly.
Gregmal Posted January 28 Posted January 28 I actually find it interesting and awesome how scrupulously we argued and ground to the bone; became sooo intensely personally invested in whether trade “deals” actually occurred(as opposed to just “agreement/framework”) 6 months ago….and now are just like “that’s a trade deal” cuz NYT said so….
dwy000 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Hard love often results in hurt feelings. Canada will get over it. They will. They will also broaden trade relationships and alliances with other regions. Neither of which will benefit the US. Look at the reaction to the 45,000 Chinese car imports. That would never have been considered pre trade war and will have long term impacts.
73 Reds Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 minute ago, cwericb said: Spoken by an American who seems to have a very limited knowledge of Canada and Canadians. Ya see your country is very divided and is having a very hard time coming to grips with the situation. Canada, on the other hand, has been quite divided on numerous issues over the. East - West, French - English, rich provinces - poor provinces, etc, but when external threats come from WWII, China, Russia, the US, it brings us together very quickly and we can lose our otherwise 'nice and polite' identity pretty quickly. You like to make it personal - why? In case you're wondering I deal with Canadians both personally and professionally every day of my life. Part of my family is from Winnipeg. Personal enough for you? More often than not, taking a dispassionate view of things adds a lot more clarity than when you let emotions take over.
dwy000 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, Gregmal said: I actually find it interesting and awesome how scrupulously we argued and ground to the bone; became sooo intensely personally invested in whether trade “deals” actually occurred(as opposed to just “agreement/framework”) 6 months ago….and now are just like “that’s a trade deal” cuz NYT said so…. The difference is that other countries tend to follow through and execute. And then stick to the deal afterwards. Under Trump, the "deal" (if there actually was one) usually doesnt get signed as advertised, is subject to change based upon a tweet he didnt like and is actioned upon executive orders not congressional approval meaning its short term and subject to change.
Gregmal Posted January 28 Posted January 28 8 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: taking a dispassionate view of things adds a lot more clarity than when you let emotions take over. Emotionally driven groaning/whining/even crying is what they do best. Little boys don’t understand it’s just business, nothing personal.
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