dwy000 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Castanza said: Man I love where this political forum is at! Liberals embracing the 2A and Conservatives embracing big government....what a time to be alive. I'm not sure why everyone is overcomplicating this though... 1. ) It is legal but NOT wise to bring a firearm to a protest (any for that matter) but especially ones that resemble a powder keg. As someone who does carry I would never do this. The odds are not in your favor and the chance of escalation goes way up. You want to be in control, not open yourself up to the irrational judgement decisions of fools. 2.) ICE murdered this guy plain and simple. They did not attempt to deescalate, nor follow any type of standard law enforcement protocol. Law enforcement is to detain and let the courts decide, not issue street justice. 3.) ICE is a good organization on paper that is being wielded as a political tool. Regardless of it's initial mission or intent, it has strayed FAR from those goals and mostly resembles a blunt tool to suppress opposition, strike fear, and bully. Citizens beware.... 4.) Congress sucks a its job. The President is unhinged and corrupt as Hell. This is resulting in politicians and organizations of all levels breaking down and blazing their own trails which is leading to more division. Lack of cohesion and structure is not often good long term for democratic republics. I think any rational person would agree with the above The world is tospy turvy. I actually agree with everything you said.
dwy000 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Gregmal said: This is why Trump is awesome. He makes 80% of folks do absolutely crazy, mind blowingly absurd shit. Just a week ago he had folks defending the civil rights of Narco dude Maduro! What will next week bring us? Who defended the civil rights of Maduro? I dont recall anyone anywhere supporting Maduro.
cubsfan Posted January 27 Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, Castanza said: Man I love where this political forum is at! Liberals embracing the 2A and Conservatives embracing big government....what a time to be alive. I'm not sure why everyone is overcomplicating this though... 1. ) It is legal but NOT wise to bring a firearm to a protest (any for that matter) but especially ones that resemble a powder keg. As someone who does carry I would never do this. The odds are not in your favor and the chance of escalation goes way up. You want to be in control, not open yourself up to the irrational judgement decisions of fools. 2.) ICE murdered this guy plain and simple. They did not attempt to deescalate, nor follow any type of standard law enforcement protocol. Law enforcement is to detain and let the courts decide, not issue street justice. 3.) ICE is a good organization on paper that is being wielded as a political tool. Regardless of it's initial mission or intent, it has strayed FAR from those goals and mostly resembles a blunt tool to suppress opposition, strike fear, and bully. Citizens beware.... 4.) Congress sucks a its job. The President is unhinged and corrupt as Hell. This is resulting in politicians and organizations of all levels breaking down and blazing their own trails which is leading to more division. Lack of cohesion and structure is not often good long term for democratic republics. I think any rational person would agree with the above I would agree with some of it. Certainly the monumental pile of shit that the Biden administration unleashed upon America. Someone has to clean up the giant mess - and there were predictably going to be massive problems. I mean, what kind of asshole lets 12-15M people into the country - does not vet them - does not vaccinate them (while they fire unvaccinated gov workers) - dumps them in city streets in tents. What kind of asshole does that to a country? What kind of asshole unleashes a crime wave across the country for 4 years? Trump's loser predecessor - that's why he didn't get reelected - Crime.
73 Reds Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Parsad said: Ummmm...pretty sure you post on this thread a hell of a lot more than me! But again, don't let the facts get in the way. Cheers! Really? Which one of us rants all day - every day about Trump?
Mephistopheles Posted January 27 Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Really? Which one of us rants all day - every day about Trump? It's a politics thread. Every single one of us is ranting and not a single person has changed their mind about anything lol
73 Reds Posted January 27 Posted January 27 4 minutes ago, Mephistopheles said: It's a politics thread. Every single one of us is ranting and not a single person has changed their mind about anything lol Right. There are those who choose to complain endlessly about the same thing every day; the rest of us don't.
Parsad Posted January 27 Posted January 27 15 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Really? Which one of us rants all day - every day about Trump? I rant, and then I'm gone. And then later on late at night, I'm back on again. Most of us actually have a life outside of the site. If you check the number of posts you've made on this thread in the last two weeks, it's hell of a lot higher than me. Cheers!
John Hjorth Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Gregmal said: ... What will next week bring us? My best guess : More Greenland stuff and Epstein files stuff. - But who knows who get shot until then? But wait! ..., to start talking about next week by now is way, way too long termish! This week just only has begun [Tuesday], it's still young ! Edited January 27 by John Hjorth
73 Reds Posted January 27 Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Parsad said: I rant, and then I'm gone. And then later on late at night, I'm back on again. Most of us actually have a life outside of the site. If you check the number of posts you've made on this thread in the last two weeks, it's hell of a lot higher than me. Cheers! I dunno, looks like your name is in the "top posters" list on this thread. But yeah, as a semi-retiree I like to monitor this board while at the office doing other things. Not sure what that has to do with constant and endless complaints by you and others about the very same thing, day in and day out. Doesn't it get tiring?
cubsfan Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Let's not forget why we are in this mess. How would you like to be the guy to clean this up??? In September 2024, Department of Homeland Security officials reportedto Congress that they had tracked some 435,000 illegal aliens with criminal convictions not in custody. About 29,000 of those criminal illegal immigrants had been convicted of murder and/or sexual assault.
cwericb Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Sometimes the US really needs Canada, but they tend to forget. No this isn't what we did during 9/11.... "Forty-six years ago today Canada saved 6 Americans in Iran. The mission, known as the Canadian Caper, saw the Canadian government and its diplomatic staff orchestrate a daring rescue of six Americans who had narrowly escaped the 1979 seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. While the CIA provided the technical "Argo" cover story, Canada served as the mission's primary architect and protector. For nearly three months, Canadian diplomats risked their own lives to hide the Americans in their private homes, shielding them from certain capture. This commitment to the "houseguests" culminated on January 27, 1980, when the Canadian government issued secret passports to facilitate their safe flight out of Iran. Canada's selfless intervention didn't just save six lives; it defined the "Special Relationship" between the two nations "forever"."
Parsad Posted January 27 Posted January 27 30 minutes ago, cwericb said: Sometimes the US really needs Canada, but they tend to forget. No this isn't what we did during 9/11.... "Forty-six years ago today Canada saved 6 Americans in Iran. The mission, known as the Canadian Caper, saw the Canadian government and its diplomatic staff orchestrate a daring rescue of six Americans who had narrowly escaped the 1979 seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. While the CIA provided the technical "Argo" cover story, Canada served as the mission's primary architect and protector. For nearly three months, Canadian diplomats risked their own lives to hide the Americans in their private homes, shielding them from certain capture. This commitment to the "houseguests" culminated on January 27, 1980, when the Canadian government issued secret passports to facilitate their safe flight out of Iran. Canada's selfless intervention didn't just save six lives; it defined the "Special Relationship" between the two nations "forever"." LOL! Cheers!
John Hjorth Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) 50 minutes ago, cwericb said: Sometimes the US really needs Canada, but they tend to forget. No this isn't what we did during 9/11.... "Forty-six years ago today Canada saved 6 Americans in Iran. The mission, known as the Canadian Caper, saw the Canadian government and its diplomatic staff orchestrate a daring rescue of six Americans who had narrowly escaped the 1979 seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. While the CIA provided the technical "Argo" cover story, Canada served as the mission's primary architect and protector. For nearly three months, Canadian diplomats risked their own lives to hide the Americans in their private homes, shielding them from certain capture. This commitment to the "houseguests" culminated on January 27, 1980, when the Canadian government issued secret passports to facilitate their safe flight out of Iran. Canada's selfless intervention didn't just save six lives; it defined the "Special Relationship" between the two nations "forever"." Thank you for sharing, Eric, [ @cwericb ], Now you bring it up, I vaguely recall having read about it long time ago, but had today forgotten about it, totally, I must admit. You and I share feelings and thoughts about an ally expressing imperialistic aspirations at the cost of allies, plus threats, dressed, spiced up with lies and false 'facts', what ever. Personally, I came to the conclusion, that loyality must be a village in Sibiria, and I'm confident, verging to sure, that I've found an error on Wikipedia, which it is my intent to report as soon as possible : Edited January 27 by John Hjorth
cubsfan Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Yeah, "loyalty" is carrying your weight as an "ally", not freeloading for years on end, while the other "ally" carries the load. More BS.
Spekulatius Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) Daddy Trump doing hissy fits, probably because he thought the headline was his trademark. This is the EU trade deal with India. Other politicians should get into his head more and get his blood pressure to up, imo. Edited January 28 by Spekulatius
John Hjorth Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Spekulatius said: Daddy Trump doing hissy fits, probably because he thought the headline was his trademark. This is the EU trade deal with India. Other politicians should get into his head more and get his blood pressure to up, imo. HaHa! , Awesome entertainment value! , -Can you explain 'hissy fits', btw.? -German preferred, thank you. - All of my dictionaries are giving up on it, don't have clue!
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 What surprises me is how some in the US think, Oh Trump will be gone in a couple of years and everything will come back to normal and we will all be friends again. Unfortunately 'the point of no return' passed some time ago. Kind of sad when you lose friends.
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 33 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: HaHa! , Awesome entertainment value! , -Can you explain 'hissy fits', btw.? -German preferred, thank you. - All of my dictionaries are giving up on it, don't have clue! Hissey fit = tantrum
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Yeah, what's with this Idea of Trumps that he doesn't want to trade with any other countries and then gets pissed off when those other countries then go to do deals with new partners. Duh what does he expect. Like with Canada, Doesn't want to trade with us and has a hissey fit when we do deals elsewhere. Kind of delusional.
Sweet Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Spekulatius said: Daddy Trump doing hissy fits, probably because he thought the headline was his trademark. This is the EU trade deal with India. Other politicians should get into his head more and get his blood pressure to up, imo. I often get a good laugh from Trump’s posts, no matter what anyone says he is genuinely funny. This cringey drunk uncle stuff though. Still funny I suppose.
cubsfan Posted January 28 Posted January 28 26 minutes ago, cwericb said: What surprises me is how some in the US think, Oh Trump will be gone in a couple of years and everything will come back to normal and we will all be friends again. Unfortunately 'the point of no return' passed some time ago. Kind of sad when you lose friends. The problem with that: Trump made a point to let voters know that they have been funding all these relationships on the back of American citizens. Now that the cat is out of the bag - and their taxes are being reduced - and money redirected back to voters - they are tired of paying for all the nonsense. The issue cut both ways - If Trump returns $100B to resident tax payers - they know where the money is coming from...
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Sweet said: I often get a good laugh from Trump’s posts, no matter what anyone says he is genuinely funny. This cringey drunk uncle stuff though. Still funny I suppose. Yes watching Trump is like watching an exaggerated cartoon character.
cubsfan Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, cwericb said: Yes watching Trump is like watching an exaggerated cartoon character. Yeah, especially now that GDP is running at 5%+ The joke is on you!
cwericb Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, cubsfan said: The problem with that: Trump made a point to let voters know that they have been funding all these relationships on the back of American citizens. Now that the cat is out of the bag - and their taxes are being reduced - and money redirected back to voters - they are tired of paying for all the nonsense. The issue cut both ways - If Trump returns $100B to resident tax payers - they know where the money is coming from... Well that is fine, no problem. Canada has been the United States biggest customer for US goods for years. Now think about that. How is that is bad for the US? Anyway, So we say okay you don't want to trade with us we will go elsewhere to buy and sell our import/exports to other countries. AND then Trump has a hissey fit. You can't have it both ways.
cubsfan Posted January 28 Posted January 28 11 minutes ago, cwericb said: Well that is fine, no problem. Canada has been the United States biggest customer for US goods for years. Now think about that. How is that is bad for the US? Anyway, So we say okay you don't want to trade with us we will go elsewhere to buy and sell our import/exports to other countries. AND then Trump has a hissey fit. You can't have it both ways. Hey - I hope everything gets worked out. Trump and China Carney took the gloves off. As far as I am concerned, I have not seen anything sign of a thaw. That hockey brawl is coming. We'll see what happens after that.
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