cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, dwy000 said: We didn't vote for ICE, we got ICE or their support wouldnt be as low as it is. Are you supporting gun control as proposed by Trump now? Or is it another interest rate cap removal where you refuse to acknowledge you disagree with the Dear Leader? Its a cult. You really have to LOVE Libtard logic: 1 Unarmed Trump support shot dead by Pelosi's Capitol Police. She was not a threat crawling through a window. BUT she was trespassing. Libtard Logic: No problem, she deserved it, Cop did his job. Shoot her dead, she's a Trump supporter! 2 Armed ICE protestor refuses to comply to Law Enforcement and resists. Danger to everyone. Shot dead. Libtard Logic: My hair is on fire! Oh the outrage! Don't be so transparent @dwy000
Eng12345 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 8 minutes ago, cubsfan said: You really have to LOVE Libtard logic: 1 Unarmed Trump support shot dead by Pelosi's Capitol Police. She was not a threat crawling through a window. BUT she was trespassing. Libtard Logic: No problem, she deserved it, Cop did his job. Shoot her dead, she's a Trump supporter! 2 Armed ICE protestor refuses to comply to Law Enforcement and resists. Danger to everyone. Shot dead. Libtard Logic: My hair is on fire! Oh the outrage! Don't be so transparent @dwy000 I mean I get your point and it did make me self-assess on some level. But let's be honest the two videos were very different... eh never mind why are we both wasting our time? Have a good Sunday all! Edited January 25 by Eng12345
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, cubsfan said: You really have to LOVE Libtard logic: 1 Unarmed Trump support shot dead by Pelosi's Capitol Police. She was not a threat crawling through a window. BUT she was trespassing. Libtard Logic: No problem, she deserved it, Cop did his job. Shoot her dead, she's a Trump supporter! 2 Armed ICE protestor refuses to comply to Law Enforcement and resists. Danger to everyone. Shot dead. Libtard Logic: My hair is on fire! Oh the outrage! Don't be so transparent @dwy000 Cubs, with your prejudices and preconceived ideas, I hope to hell you never, ever end up on a jury.
73 Reds Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, dwy000 said: We didn't vote for ICE, we got ICE or their support wouldnt be as low as it is. Are you supporting gun control as proposed by Trump now? Or is it another interest rate cap removal where you refuse to acknowledge you disagree with the Dear Leader? Its a cult. Then they try to tell us what we did and didn't vote for. The very problem, personified.
73 Reds Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Spekulatius said: Another food for thought. Trump is one year in his presidency. In 1934, many German (except Jews, gays, communists and Gypsies) would have thought that Hitler is doing a great job, one year after his election. If he had died then in 1934 through a stroke etc, his monuments might still be everyone in Germany and probably elsewhere. Historians would without doubt point out his plans for large scale concentration camps and the Endlösung ( he has written about in his book on Main Kampf in 1923 after all) but would people believe it? Just something to think about. Um, that would almost be comical if you didn't believe it. As someone who knows all too well about the Nazis (my family was largely rounded up and murdered) I know a thing or two about being persecuted. In fact my entire [Jewish] existence can be summarized in 9 words: They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat. Some of you here really need to take a Chill pill.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, cwericb said: Cubs, with your prejudices and preconceived ideas, I hope to hell you never, ever end up on a jury. Of course, you will NEVER address the serious point I am making - you'll always dodge it - instead of providing your own justification for the tragedy below: 1 Unarmed Trump support shot dead by Pelosi's Capitol Police. She was not a threat crawling through a window. BUT she was trespassing. Libtard Logic: No problem, she deserved it, Cop did his job. Shoot her dead, she's a Trump supporter!
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) It is interesting times on this thread. We are now seeing the more intelligent posters on the right admit that Trump and his minions are crossing lines with which with they are uncomfortable. Unfortunately there are still some that could be drowning in the Koolaid and would still not object to Trump and his tribe's actions. The statement was...."Cubs, with your prejudices and preconceived ideas, I hope to hell you never, ever end up on a jury. Your response as it often is, was irrelevant. Edited January 25 by cwericb
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Of course, you will NEVER address the serious point I am making - you'll always dodge it - instead of providing your own justification for the tragedy below: 1 Unarmed Trump support shot dead by Pelosi's Capitol Police. She was not a threat crawling through a window. BUT she was trespassing. Libtard Logic: No problem, she deserved it, Cop did his job. Shoot her dead, she's a Trump supporter! Why are you always bringing up distorted irrelevant incidents from the past? Most of us are concerned with the present.
John Hjorth Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Just now, cwericb said: Why are you always bringing up distorted irrelevant incidents from the past? Most of us are concerned with the present. -And thereby, the basis for the future. It's not more complicated than that.
dealraker Posted January 25 Posted January 25 22 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Um, that would almost be comical if you didn't believe it. As someone who knows all too well about the Nazis (my family was largely rounded up and murdered) I know a thing or two about being persecuted. In fact my entire [Jewish] existence can be summarized in 9 words: They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat. Some of you here really need to take a Chill pill. And you still manage to live in denial.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, cwericb said: Why are you always bringing up distorted irrelevant incidents from the past? Most of us are concerned with the present. I figured right. Your cowardly dodge tells me everything. We are talking about the shootings of protestors by US law enforcement - what is justified and what is NOT justified in terms of US law enforcement. You clearly WON'T answer because it destroys you whole argument about right and wrong. Figures coming from you.
dwy000 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 32 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Then they try to tell us what we did and didn't vote for. The very problem, personified. You were the one telling us what people voted or didnt vote for! If you look at any poll on this its not even close (even accounting for polling errors) that this is not what people voted for or want.
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I figured right. Your cowardly dodge tells me everything. We are talking about the shootings of protestors by US law enforcement - what is justified and what is NOT justified in terms of US law enforcement. You clearly WON'T answer because it destroys you whole argument about right and wrong. Figures coming from you. Really? There was a question? I didn't see one. As I said, I hope to hell for the sake of justice you are never on a jury.
dwy000 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 36 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Then they try to tell us what we did and didn't vote for. The very problem, personified. And again you avoided the question. Are you supporting Trumps proposed gun control? Do you support his removal of caps on overdraft fees?
John Hjorth Posted January 25 Posted January 25 25 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: ... As someone who knows all too well about the Nazis (my family was largely rounded up and murdered) I know a thing or two about being persecuted. In fact my entire [Jewish] existence can be summarized in 9 words: They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat. Some of you here really need to take a Chill pill. Thank you for sharing that backgroud information, @73 Reds. - - - o 0 o - - - Personally, I'm 'Made in Germany ©', post WW2.
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 5 hours ago, John Hjorth said: How about the US power grid, is it holding up, or are you experiencing outages? Ask the douche cruz, if you can find him. https://www.wfaa.com/video/news/local/texas/ted-cruz-says-hes-back-in-texas-after-work-trip-ahead-of-weekend-winter-weather/287-65b625d7-1408-4cb1-9319-fe796008a751
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 31 minutes ago, 73 Reds said: Um, that would almost be comical if you didn't believe it. As someone who knows all too well about the Nazis (my family was largely rounded up and murdered) I know a thing or two about being persecuted. In fact my entire [Jewish] existence can be summarized in 9 words: They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat. Some of you here really need to take a Chill pill. You gotta be kidding me! With a horrific family history like that and you defend the goons that are rounding up people almost at random throughout the streets of the United States. Have you learned nothing from the past?
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 22 minutes ago, cwericb said: Why are you always bringing up distorted irrelevant incidents from the past? Most of us are concerned with the present. Dude's made it pretty clear he holds logical fallacies in high regard. The poster child for willful ignorance.
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, cwericb said: Really? There was a question? I didn't see one. As I said, I hope to hell for the sake of justice you are never on a jury. These trump boot lickers do love projection. Ethical and effective debate is not possible with them.
flesh Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1. Let in a zillion people without vetting. 2. Claim there's nothing you can do about it 3. Month's before reelection make a weak plan to solve illegal immigration that won't work. 4. lose election 5. new president all but eliminates illegal immigration in a couple months 6. get mad that .0001% of illegal immigrants deported were legal 7. get mad that the people doing it weren't perfect, not trained properly, when there existed no force to do the job beforehand, in other words it wouldn't be done without them leaving no alternative, IT WOULD not happen at all. 8. Tell everyone to protest and fight, massively infect group think a la Gustave la bon x 1000 every day for months 9. Don't ever tell anyone how to protest safely, nobody dying means no political wins 10. Give illegals safe spaces and money in various forms, incentivize them. 11. Hopefully win elections and give illegals paths to voting for democrats. Aside from all that, these things really are simple. If you want fewer people to die, all the left has to do is say loud and clear, stay 30 feet away from all ice officers while protesting, is this not wise? Why aren't they doing it? Why aren't they doing anything resembling it? Maybe my little brain is too small to understand. Is there some better idea I'm missing to deport millions of illegals in under 4 years. Personally, I don't care if they all are deported. I think it's reasonable to deport all criminals and quasi criminals, plus another million as deterrence, I'd like to see it in the news to some extent ongoing forever so that the rest of the world doesn't forget the message. I'd like to see indirect strategies implemented so that there's a slow trickle of deportations forever, by police, through govt paperwork, etc. Additionally, can we finally get a real bi partisan plan together to prevent this nonsense from happening in the future? If we don't, I wonder why.... The hitler stuff is just weird, I'm seeing more anti semitic noises from the left since gaza/israel than I've ever heard from the right. It's all over college campuses, meanwhile I hear a small insignificant minority on the right, like Nick Fuentes. I know Bill Maher and Sam Harris, Jews, have been harping on this forever. Sam is concerned about his two girls going to college and being safe when they come of age soon.
SharperDingaan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 'ICE nodding to far-right extremists in recruitment posts, experts say'. https://www.cbc.ca/news/ice-recruiting-9.7058294 Click on the video; 0.13-0.16 lays out the recruitment carrots. 1) Up to 50K sign-on bonus, 2) Student loans forgiven, 3) generous benefits (high bi-weekly pay as well as benefits). More agents in total than there are US marines ... and all 'in-country' whereas US marines are increasingly being tied down 'out-of-country'; in Venezuela, Columbia? , Cuba?, Iran?, etc., etc. Very similar terms to the hiring of mercenaries to execute regime change in a third world nation; the sign-off bonus is whatever you can take with you in the impending chaos. So friends in low places tell me . Most would think it highly unlikely that deportations are done, and ICE has been disbanded by the mid-term elections. Last time Orange Boy lost, his supporters tried to take the Whitehouse by force ... but there weren't enough of them. Not going to be a problem this time around? Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, and cover via the long straddle. SD Edited January 25 by SharperDingaan
Gregmal Posted January 25 Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, flesh said: The hitler stuff is just weird, I'm seeing more anti semitic noises from the left since gaza/israel than I've ever heard from the right. It’s pretty remarkable actually. But typical. It seems the party is all in once again on identity politics. Everything is Nazi this, Nazi that, and everything’s about gays and brown people. Although it does oddly seem like the party is distancing themselves from African Americans….so now we have what? The blacks, Jews, Asians and Indians as the minorities that don’t count to the Democratic Party?
Marco Van Basten Posted January 25 Posted January 25 I think there are three lessons that we should all take away and impart to our kids and for some grandkids: Don't go to protests. If you do, don't confront the police. If you do go to a protest, don't bring weapons.
Spekulatius Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, 73 Reds said: Um, that would almost be comical if you didn't believe it. As someone who knows all too well about the Nazis (my family was largely rounded up and murdered) I know a thing or two about being persecuted. In fact my entire [Jewish] existence can be summarized in 9 words: They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat. Some of you here really need to take a Chill pill. I would rather be overreacting than under- reacting at this point. Whether Trump goes full bore autocracy with martial law declared I don’t know, but if they do, the stonk market and non binary bathrooms will be the least of our concerns. Edited January 25 by Spekulatius
dwy000 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: I think there are three lessons that we should all take away and impart to our kids and for some grandkids: Don't go to protests. If you do, don't confront the police. If you do go to a protest, don't bring weapons. Protests have been the starting point for just about every single significant political change in history. Saying dont protest is effectively saying just do what the government wants you to do. He was legally carrying the gun and never took it out himself. He was following the law. Are you saying we need more gun control?
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