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[cwericb]

On 11/29/2025 at 1:02 PM, cubsfan said:

 

Not to worry @Cigarbutt -- no chance of Canada becoming the 51st state.

 

In regards to being treated as filth and vermin - yes - us MAGA types have long memories. Especially of President Biden giving national addresses telling the country that the most dangerous threat in America is the "growth of white supremacy - the MAGA movement".

 

And of course, many of our citizens listened and decided to take matters into their own hands - and tried to assassinate our new President 2X - and followed up with the killing of the most famous political activist in decades - Charlie Kirk.

 

Not that they were trying to divide the country by embracing political assassination as a "moral virtue".

 

Thank you President Biden for ridding the USA of vermin and filth that you @Cigarbutt worries about.

 

Never even heard of this Kirk guy until he was shot and then had to Google the name. If you really believe he was 'the most famous political activist in decades" you are truly living in a bubble shared by cult members. 

[Parsad]

On 11/28/2025 at 6:46 AM, Jaygo said:

I hate on the federal Liberals often but yesterday was a great turning point. I may be softening or am just too optimistic.

 

My hate stems from:

 

- Anti human policies under the guise of kindness

- Indigenous affairs. We are force fed land acknowledgments with no understanding of who we are talking about all the while actual native people sleep in the streets and have no access to clean water in many communities. We keep them poor and reliant and its a blight on our otherwise proud history of Canadian North America

- Immigration as a form of servitude to benefit large corps while rapidly changing our culture for the worse. This is treasonous behavior. 

- Authoritarian policy during Covid. I get pissed of just thinking about it so will stop there. 

- Stupid stuff like woke, Dei, celebrating mediocrity etc. 

- A really hard left policy in regards to economics. Gov cant fix shit but they try with my money. I don't like it!

 

Anyway I have many more gripes but am keeping optimistic that the ship may be turning. Canada could be a great nation but Trudeau and his cabinet took us very far from that and in many ways the horse is out of the barn. It will be very hard so build back a culture so damaged but if we can fix the economics and some other keys points we may get there again. 

 

 

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Frankly, people should be able to make money and do well under whatever government is running Canada.  There is no excuse...just like businesses should be able to compete and thrive under most governments.  If you can't, then there is something wrong with your model, competitiveness or operations.  Nearly all businesses have to pivot to thrive.

 

I'm not sure my opportunities were any better or worse under Harper, Trudeau and now Carney.  The vehicles to get me to financial freedom, as well as the majority of Canadian people, are there.  Everyone has the opportunity to develop themselves, find work, save money and pay their fair taxes.  

 

Things like owning a home aren't a guarantee.  Paying low taxes aren't a guarantee.  A left or right leaning government isn't a guarantee.  I do get universal healthcare...that is guaranteed.  I do have access to non-taxable vehicles to build wealth...RRSP's, TFSA's, etc.  My family has access to a decent education.  I have rights that are guaranteed and preserved.  I have a social safety net when there is a crisis...that is guaranteed.  

 

Bitching about Covid policies when hundreds of thousands of lives were at stake against a virus we did not have enough data on?  Silly!  I'm not sure there was ever a time any nation celebrated mediocrity...those policies, including what is called "woke", "dei" policies, are just a result of progressive movements...it's cyclical...just like regressive policies are now being pushed. 

 

I think Carney is a centrist, even though many, including those that hated Trudeau, keep piling him into that group.  If you work for a Prime Minister, your job is to push their agenda and policies...look at Trump...no matter how stupid the policy, they are pushing it forward!  So, the political environment is often cyclical and over time things balance out.  

 

Canada is one of the great nations in the world.  I'm privileged to be here and I think the majority of Canadians have a decent quality of life.  And that gets better generally with each generation!  Cheers!

[ValueNation]

4 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Frankly, people should be able to make money and do well under whatever government is running Canada.  There is no excuse...just like businesses should be able to compete and thrive under most governments.  If you can't, then there is something wrong with your model, competitiveness or operations.  Nearly all businesses have to pivot to thrive.

 

I'm not sure my opportunities were any better or worse under Harper, Trudeau and now Carney.  The vehicles to get me to financial freedom, as well as the majority of Canadian people, are there.  Everyone has the opportunity to develop themselves, find work, save money and pay their fair taxes.  

 

Things like owning a home aren't a guarantee.  Paying low taxes aren't a guarantee.  A left or right leaning government isn't a guarantee.  I do get universal healthcare...that is guaranteed.  I do have access to non-taxable vehicles to build wealth...RRSP's, TFSA's, etc.  My family has access to a decent education.  I have rights that are guaranteed and preserved.  I have a social safety net when there is a crisis...that is guaranteed.  

 

Bitching about Covid policies when hundreds of thousands of lives were at stake against a virus we did not have enough data on?  Silly!  I'm not sure there was ever a time any nation celebrated mediocrity...those policies, including what is called "woke", "dei" policies, are just a result of progressive movements...it's cyclical...just like regressive policies are now being pushed. 

 

I think Carney is a centrist, even though many, including those that hated Trudeau, keep piling him into that group.  If you work for a Prime Minister, your job is to push their agenda and policies...look at Trump...no matter how stupid the policy, they are pushing it forward!  So, the political environment is often cyclical and over time things balance out.  

 

Canada is one of the great nations in the world.  I'm privileged to be here and I think the majority of Canadians have a decent quality of life.  And that gets better generally with each generation!  Cheers!

 

Well said, agreed.

[cubsfan]

Talk about a bubble....  if you don't know Charlie Kirk, then you don't know why Trump won the last election.

 

Your ignorance is a very good thing in my book.

 

TPUSA did it for Trump with their massive get out the vote campaign among the young. 

[Sweet]

Charlie Kirk pretty famous in 40 and below segment that would have YouTube and Instagram etc.  Especially the Gen Z cohort.  Not so much in older age category that still type with their index finger whilst squinting at the screen (admit it lol).

 

Edited December 1, 2025 by Sweet

[cwericb]

55 minutes ago, Sweet said:

Charlie Kirk pretty famous in 40 and below segment that would have YouTube and Instagram etc.  Especially the Gen Z cohort.  Not so much in older age category that still type with their index finger whilst squinting at the screen (admit it lol).

 

 

Haha. I may be old, but I do type with several fingers.

 

As far as Kirk is concerned, the bubble is mostly on the right in the US. I doubt Cubs and others know as much about other countries as people in the US expect others to know about the US. 

[Sweet]

29 minutes ago, cwericb said:

Haha. I may be old, but I do type with several fingers.

We’ve found a unicorn, with no squinting either!  I remember in uni a professor who used to single digit how and I used to wonder how much more productive he would be if he could use multiple fingers.  Wonder what he makes of AI.

[Jaygo]

10 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Frankly, people should be able to make money and do well under whatever government is running Canada.  There is no excuse...just like businesses should be able to compete and thrive under most governments.  If you can't, then there is something wrong with your model, competitiveness or operations.  Nearly all businesses have to pivot to thrive.

 

I'm not sure my opportunities were any better or worse under Harper, Trudeau and now Carney.  The vehicles to get me to financial freedom, as well as the majority of Canadian people, are there.  Everyone has the opportunity to develop themselves, find work, save money and pay their fair taxes.  

 

Things like owning a home aren't a guarantee.  Paying low taxes aren't a guarantee.  A left or right leaning government isn't a guarantee.  I do get universal healthcare...that is guaranteed.  I do have access to non-taxable vehicles to build wealth...RRSP's, TFSA's, etc.  My family has access to a decent education.  I have rights that are guaranteed and preserved.  I have a social safety net when there is a crisis...that is guaranteed.  

 

Bitching about Covid policies when hundreds of thousands of lives were at stake against a virus we did not have enough data on?  Silly!  I'm not sure there was ever a time any nation celebrated mediocrity...those policies, including what is called "woke", "dei" policies, are just a result of progressive movements...it's cyclical...just like regressive policies are now being pushed. 

 

I think Carney is a centrist, even though many, including those that hated Trudeau, keep piling him into that group.  If you work for a Prime Minister, your job is to push their agenda and policies...look at Trump...no matter how stupid the policy, they are pushing it forward!  So, the political environment is often cyclical and over time things balance out.  

 

Canada is one of the great nations in the world.  I'm privileged to be here and I think the majority of Canadians have a decent quality of life.  And that gets better generally with each generation!  Cheers!

 

On the economics side you may be looking at your place in society and extrapolating that to everyone. You, me and very likely everyone on this site is doing well and both financially savvy and secure. We know how to make money, keep money, grow money and also how use that money well.

 

We are the top 5% or higher.  The unfortunate part is many people are financially inept, and have no idea how to thrive in this environment. So when you have a lot of people who are struggling and then you enact the very anti-human policy of increasing the cost of the most vital human needs like food, fuel and housing via taxes you are plainly saying F..k you poor ass bitch, eat cake!

 

The taxes in the form of carbon taxes, fuel taxes etc are then sent up to Ottawa and spent in so many ways that has nothing to do with the welfare of the nation that it is impossible to say that this is not an assault on the fabric of a semi socialist society. 

 

I am happy to pay my taxes to provide, healthcare, policing and infrastructure. If some of my money goes to help support the dumb, infirm, immobile and people in a tough position in life than I think that is money well spent.

 

I do not want my money being spent by someone who did not toil for it on their pet projects or more likely just siphoning it off. I don't know what's worse, if these people are so dumb and heartless to spend our resources this way thinking it's good judgement or if it is just a fraudulent expense to enrich their friends. 

 

Here is tiny list of the absolutely stupid places it has gone lately-

 

- arrive can

- paying Omar 10 million

- gender studies in foreign countries costing 11 billion!! i'm sure most was siphoned off any way but wow, eat cake working 3 jobs mother at Jane and Wilson, eat cake!

- don't shit on the beach billboards in Africa

- black entrepreneurship programs 

- gay pride flags painted everywhere (this is city level all the way to federal)

- paying billions to hotel operators to house refuges and asylum seekers and then giving those refuges more money per diem than many working poor earn themselves. 

- Subsidies for foreign corporations

- Subsidies for green BS companies

 

I could go on forever and some of the above may be good and i am just uninformed on the details. But I do know that when your house is not in order you do not act this way. To say Canada today is a great nation is a joke. A great nation may spend the above once their own citizens were succeeding in every way. Not drowning under strained finances trying to decide if they can buy protein for their kids and pay for soccer practice, or fix that cavity, fill their tank of gas or the fill oil tank for the furnace. 

 

Lets just paper over the fact that hospitals are crammed and waitlist are long, lets paper over the seniors housing crisis evolving, lets paper over the stranded youth who's entry level jobs have been filled by millions of mostly Indian born immigrants to benefit Tim Fucking Hortons and the like. Lets just paper it all over because were not America and we don't have their myriad problems.  

 

If we want to be great and project the idea of Social Democracy with diversity actually working, if we want to act as a beacon for the world than we need to walk the walk. Get our own house in order. Immigration from around the globe at a pace that the new people become Canadians ( were great right ) rather than parts of Canada becoming India, Iran, China or Pakistan. 

 

We need to provide actual opportunity for every level of the economic ladder to strive, we need to recognise that the country was founded on vast resources and ingenuity. This does not come from equalization payments this comes from government getting out of the way of the dreamers and doers

 

 

 

 

[cubsfan]

2 hours ago, cwericb said:

 

Haha. I may be old, but I do type with several fingers.

 

As far as Kirk is concerned, the bubble is mostly on the right in the US. I doubt Cubs and others know as much about other countries as people in the US expect others to know about the US. 

 

Yeah, that's fine with me @cwericb 

 

I don't expect you to know or care about politics in the USA.  That Kirk was the major force in the Trump win - is lost on just about everyone over the age of 35 - even in this country, as @Sweet pointed out.

 

I like it that way - if you don't understand Kirk - you'll never understand Trump's sweeping victory.

[dealraker]

17 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Yeah, that's fine with me @cwericb 

 

I don't expect you to know or care about politics in the USA.  That Kirk was the major force in the Trump win - is lost on just about everyone over the age of 35 - even in this country, as @Sweet pointed out.

 

I like it that way - if you don't understand Kirk - you'll never understand Trump's sweeping victory.

Cubs-Cubs-Cubs   ---  only if you are attracted to rage bait.  Those black women...you know without brain processing power not to be taken seriously unless you consider they are out stealing jobs from the whites and such whatnot.

 

Maybe more like privileged unprepared white boy making hay selling snake oil to the brainwashed?  My goodness, cut back on the mansion size dude and buy some security if you're out selling division!

[Gregmal]

I’m just waiting for the next act. After being dead silent about pedos while their friends had the Epstein files for four years, likely to protect the likes of the Clintons, Gates and Summers types…the calendar changes and they went rabid trying to hang that one on Donny…now, after screaming dictator for a decade; I’m excited to see if they take the bait and start aggressively defending Venezuela and the Maduro regime. Real life soap opera! 

Edited December 1, 2025 by Gregmal

[SharperDingaan]

Agreed, a lot of people are hurting, and opportunity is not the same for everyone. The reality is that it is not 1975 Canada anymore, it is 2025 Canada; the times have changed, and the opportunities for the same age cohorts are materially different today versus what they were. In the entire world .... and even before Trump.

 

Easier is relative. It has always been hard to get ahead, and the ever changing times have required ever different approaches. If you got out and did, there were opportunities, and things have gotten better for women; but you had to do. Not what many want to hear.

• In 1975, the young man who wanted to get ahead worked the mines in Ontario's Ring of File, slept in a draughty bunkhouse with 6 others, and put their money into local mining stocks (dog sh1te); if you hit it lucky it bought you a Toronto house mortgage free. The young woman had a lot fewer opportunities.   
• In 1990, the young man who wanted to get ahead worked Fort McMurray, slept in a better bunkhouse with 20 others, and put their money into local o/g stocks (dog sh1te); if you hit it lucky it bought you the same sized Toronto house mortgage free. The young woman got to be trades apprentices, if they could break the ice. Bigger money, bigger prices.
• In 2015, the young man who wanted to get ahead worked the Tech co's, slept in a rented house with 3-4 others, and put their money into local tech stocks (dog sh1te); if you hit it lucky it also bought you the same sized Toronto house mortgage free. The young woman got to be equals, if they could break into the boys club. Again, bigger money, better prices.
• In 2025, the young man and woman, who want to get ahead work the infrastructure build out, sleep in a co-ed bunkhouse with 20 others, and put their money into utilities/start-ups; if you hit it lucky it again buys you the same sized Toronto house mortgage free. The young woman have trades, are equals, and some have their own companies. Again, bigger money, better prices.

Your first job is sh1te, and you live in a sh1te-hole in the middle of nowhere, until you can raise the funds required to get a better place elsewhere; the way it's always been. A new immigrant family opens a restaurant as the best way of using their labour that is otherwise unemployable.

 

There is no guarantee that life will be better than it was for the previous generation; life will be what you make of the opportunities you have, or choose to make elsewhere. Some will thrive, other's will not; the same as it has always been.

 

SD

Edited December 1, 2025 by SharperDingaan

[cwericb]

1 hour ago, cubsfan said:

 

I like it that way - if you don't understand Kirk - you'll never understand Trump's sweeping victory.

 

Well now, to these old eyes, that sweeping victory is not looking quite so sweeping these days.

 

"Trump's approval rating hits second-term low as Republican support dips" USA Today.

 

"Trump's Approval Rating Drops to 36%, New Second-Term Low" Gallup poll

 

Now Cult members will probably call this "Fake News"* and continue to live in their bubble. 

* Fake News: any news unfavorable to Donald Trump.

 

FYI. There is an old saying in politics: "When you are having internal problems, start external problems. Look out Venezuela.

 

 

[cubsfan]

2 hours ago, dealraker said:

Cubs-Cubs-Cubs   ---  only if you are attracted to rage bait.  Those black women...you know without brain processing power not to be taken seriously unless you consider they are out stealing jobs from the whites and such whatnot.

 

Maybe more like privileged unprepared white boy making hay selling snake oil to the brainwashed?  My goodness, cut back on the mansion size dude and buy some security if you're out selling division!

 

Good old deal - yeah, Trump cracked the code on the black/hispanic vote. Kirk cracked the code on the youth vote - by about a 10-11% swing to MAGA.

 

But I get it: they are racists/misogynists and hate immigrants.

 

You're definitely proved you're over 35!

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, cwericb said:

 

Well now, to these old eyes, that sweeping victory is not looking quite so sweeping these days.

 

"Trump's approval rating hits second-term low as Republican support dips" USA Today.

 

"Trump's Approval Rating Drops to 36%, New Second-Term Low" Gallup poll

 

Now Cult members will probably call this "Fake News"* and continue to live in their bubble. 

* Fake News: any news unfavorable to Donald Trump.

 

FYI. There is an old saying in politics: "When you are having internal problems, start external problems. Look out Venezuela.

 

I'm not so sure you are wrong @cwericb.

 

Trump needs to get the economy moving or he has big, big trouble.   At this point, the mid-terms look like 50/50 - so, yeah, he's definitely got his work cut out for him.

[Gregmal]

It appears(without looking at the same polls that the fools always find solace in), that most of the gains Trump made with Hispanics between 2016-2024 he's lost because of how he's handled the immigration stuff. And its hard to see how thats retrievable given that for many(not all) of those communities, its a matter or survival either directly, or for people in their communities. Total unforced error on Donnys part. 

[Red Lion]

5 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

It appears(without looking at the same polls that the fools always find solace in), that most of the gains Trump made with Hispanics between 2016-2024 he's lost because of how he's handled the immigration stuff. And its hard to see how thats retrievable given that for many(not all) of those communities, its a matter or survival either directly, or for people in their communities. Total unforced error on Donnys part. 

 

No kidding. 

[cubsfan]

11 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

It appears(without looking at the same polls that the fools always find solace in), that most of the gains Trump made with Hispanics between 2016-2024 he's lost because of how he's handled the immigration stuff. And its hard to see how thats retrievable given that for many(not all) of those communities, its a matter or survival either directly, or for people in their communities. Total unforced error on Donnys part. 

 

Could be. 

 

Regardless, it usually comes to down to:

 

"It's the economy stupid"

 

Trump could blow up the world, but if people think they will die rich - he will do fine.

[Gregmal]

8 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Could be. 

 

Regardless, it usually comes to down to:

 

"It's the economy stupid"

 

Trump could blow up the world, but if people think they will die rich - he will do fine.

Yea but for immigrants it’s existential. If you can’t be here the economy doesn’t matter. 
 

Of course the tricky part is that immigration was soooo disgracefully abused and mismanaged for voting points with certain crowds, that someone had to do the hard work in fixing it; sure. But that also means a lot of good folks who happen to be here without necessarily having the proper credentials; whom just wanna work hard and make some money to improve their lives or help their families, they are getting fucked. And even if it’s not prevalent..we ve learned fear sells and motivates. So all the libs need to do is equate Trump with “we all get deported” and that swings the pendulum. 

Edited December 1, 2025 by Gregmal

[cubsfan]

9 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Yea but for immigrants it’s existential. If you can’t be here the economy doesn’t matter. 
 

Of course the tricky part is that immigration was soooo disgracefully abused and mismanaged for voting points with certain crowds, that someone had to do the hard work in fixing it; sure. But that also means a lot of good folks who happen to be here without necessarily having the proper credentials; whom just wanna work hard and make some money to improve their lives or help their families, they are getting fucked. And even if it’s not prevalent..we ve learned fear sells and motivates. So all the libs need to do is equate Trump with “we all get deported” and that swings the pendulum. 

 

I wouldn't argue with that sentiment. It's a painful and ugly problem that needs fixing

[RichardGibbons]

18 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Malala Yousafzai comes to my mind.  She was just a young girl when it all happened.  No privilege, not an asshole, and still as humble as ever!  Cheers!

 

Yeah, good one. She better meets the criteria than even Thunberg.

 

Whenever I think of Malala, this standup comes to mind:

 

 

[RichardGibbons]

7 hours ago, Jaygo said:

Lets just paper over the fact that hospitals are crammed and waitlist are long

 

Yeah, this one stings right now.

 

I have a friend who got cancer last year, but got incredibly lucky in that they happened to find it during another check, at stage 1 when it has 83% survival rate.

 

She'll die in the next few months because by the time they got around to treating her, months later, it was stage 3.

[Parsad]

9 hours ago, Jaygo said:

 

On the economics side you may be looking at your place in society and extrapolating that to everyone. You, me and very likely everyone on this site is doing well and both financially savvy and secure. We know how to make money, keep money, grow money and also how use that money well.

 

Actually, I'm not.  I'm looking at all of the people in the generation below me and below them.  While owning a home is more difficult, they have huge advantages that many of us didn't in earlier generations.  

 

9 hours ago, Jaygo said:

 

We are the top 5% or higher.  The unfortunate part is many people are financially inept, and have no idea how to thrive in this environment. So when you have a lot of people who are struggling and then you enact the very anti-human policy of increasing the cost of the most vital human needs like food, fuel and housing via taxes you are plainly saying F..k you poor ass bitch, eat cake!

 

First of all, I would never say that!  Food, fuel and housing are not up solely due to immigration.  You're bitching about taxes and the like, yet you don't want to pay more to fund health care and housing initiatives.   

 

9 hours ago, Jaygo said:

 

The taxes in the form of carbon taxes, fuel taxes etc are then sent up to Ottawa and spent in so many ways that has nothing to do with the welfare of the nation that it is impossible to say that this is not an assault on the fabric of a semi socialist society. 

 

I am happy to pay my taxes to provide, healthcare, policing and infrastructure. If some of my money goes to help support the dumb, infirm, immobile and people in a tough position in life than I think that is money well spent.

 

I do not want my money being spent by someone who did not toil for it on their pet projects or more likely just siphoning it off. I don't know what's worse, if these people are so dumb and heartless to spend our resources this way thinking it's good judgement or if it is just a fraudulent expense to enrich their friends.

 

 

Every administration goes through one half of the citizens complaining about how taxes are spent.  When they are spent on food, healthcare, policing and infrastructure, you bitch about we're overtaxed and how funds are misallocated.  When they are spent to reduce taxes and deregulation, the other half bitches about how money is not being allocated to food, healthcare, policing and infrastructure.  Basically, one half is always bitching about their sacrifices and how money is being wasted!  My point was that this just cyclical in politics in general.

 

9 hours ago, Jaygo said:

 

Here is tiny list of the absolutely stupid places it has gone lately-

 

- arrive can

- paying Omar 10 million

- gender studies in foreign countries costing 11 billion!! i'm sure most was siphoned off any way but wow, eat cake working 3 jobs mother at Jane and Wilson, eat cake!

- don't shit on the beach billboards in Africa

- black entrepreneurship programs 

- gay pride flags painted everywhere (this is city level all the way to federal)

- paying billions to hotel operators to house refuges and asylum seekers and then giving those refuges more money per diem than many working poor earn themselves. 

- Subsidies for foreign corporations

- Subsidies for green BS companies

 

Some of those items are important to a large percentage of the population...not necessarily me, but others.  Just like lower taxes might be on your agenda, but may not be important to others who don't have enough food on their table.  What you call waste might be important to part of the population...your fellow citizens!

 

9 hours ago, Jaygo said:

 

I could go on forever and some of the above may be good and i am just uninformed on the details. But I do know that when your house is not in order you do not act this way. To say Canada today is a great nation is a joke. A great nation may spend the above once their own citizens were succeeding in every way. Not drowning under strained finances trying to decide if they can buy protein for their kids and pay for soccer practice, or fix that cavity, fill their tank of gas or the fill oil tank for the furnace. 

 

Then what the fuck are you doing here?  You can easily go to another country you think is better!

 

9 hours ago, Jaygo said:

 

Lets just paper over the fact that hospitals are crammed and waitlist are long, lets paper over the seniors housing crisis evolving, lets paper over the stranded youth who's entry level jobs have been filled by millions of mostly Indian born immigrants to benefit Tim Fucking Hortons and the like. Lets just paper it all over because were not America and we don't have their myriad problems.

  

 

Hospitals are crammed not because of misallocation of dollars, but because of demographics.  You have 3 taxpayers now for every citizen, compared to 7 to 1 30-40 years ago.  The system just doesn't have the resources, no matter how much you tax the system to try and improve it.  The only release valve would be to increase private healthcare and the governments have been resistant to it.  

 

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/understanding-changing-ratio-working-age-canadians-seniors-and-its-consequences

 

9 hours ago, Jaygo said:

If we want to be great and project the idea of Social Democracy with diversity actually working, if we want to act as a beacon for the world than we need to walk the walk. Get our own house in order. Immigration from around the globe at a pace that the new people become Canadians ( were great right ) rather than parts of Canada becoming India, Iran, China or Pakistan. 

 

We need to provide actual opportunity for every level of the economic ladder to strive, we need to recognise that the country was founded on vast resources and ingenuity. This does not come from equalization payments this comes from government getting out of the way of the dreamers and doers

 

 

What the hell are you afraid of?  Are you xenophobic?  Diversity in Canada works better than almost any other region in the world.  Canada is far better for it!  

 

You're acting like Canada is entering a Depression or decades of stagnation...none of which is true!

 

[Parsad]

2 hours ago, RichardGibbons said:

 

Yeah, this one stings right now.

 

I have a friend who got cancer last year, but got incredibly lucky in that they happened to find it during another check, at stage 1 when it has 83% survival rate.

 

She'll die in the next few months because by the time they got around to treating her, months later, it was stage 3.

 

Hi Richard,

 

I'm very sorry for your friend!  Unfortunately, this is not a problem solely with misallocation of resources, but massive demographic changes.

 

We (PDH) warned both the NDP and Liberal health ministers over a decade ago that they needed to accept some expansion of private healthcare to help offset the changing demographics.  Neither accepted our argument or wanted our help...they just didn't want to risk or even allow any discussion that could impact universal healthcare.  

 

Our director, Dr. Simon Sutcliffe who used to run BC Cancer, and previously Princess Margaret Hospital, had expansive discussions with both governments on several occasions.  We suggested ways to reduce diagnosis and treatment for cancer patients and they both decided to go their own way.  

 

The NDP government had to eventually accept some of our suggestions a few years ago as they expanded PET/CT and MRI imaging within BC.  We had suggested that private clinics would take the burden off the public system and they could be implemented years earlier.  We also had expansive discussions with Triumf and UBC to expand the development of radio-isotopes in BC rather than buying them from Ontario, Quebec or Alberta.  They rejected our initial ideas but then ran with them years later and adopted them.

 

So unfortunately, a lot of this is just fewer taxpayers for every senior citizen in the system and the government's desire to avoid private healthcare facilities as pressure release valves.  Cheers!

[Parsad]

7 hours ago, SharperDingaan said:

Agreed, a lot of people are hurting, and opportunity is not the same for everyone. The reality is that it is not 1975 Canada anymore, it is 2025 Canada; the times have changed, and the opportunities for the same age cohorts are materially different today versus what they were. In the entire world .... and even before Trump.

 

Easier is relative. It has always been hard to get ahead, and the ever changing times have required ever different approaches. If you got out and did, there were opportunities, and things have gotten better for women; but you had to do. Not what many want to hear.

• In 1975, the young man who wanted to get ahead worked the mines in Ontario's Ring of File, slept in a draughty bunkhouse with 6 others, and put their money into local mining stocks (dog sh1te); if you hit it lucky it bought you a Toronto house mortgage free. The young woman had a lot fewer opportunities.   
• In 1990, the young man who wanted to get ahead worked Fort McMurray, slept in a better bunkhouse with 20 others, and put their money into local o/g stocks (dog sh1te); if you hit it lucky it bought you the same sized Toronto house mortgage free. The young woman got to be trades apprentices, if they could break the ice. Bigger money, bigger prices.
• In 2015, the young man who wanted to get ahead worked the Tech co's, slept in a rented house with 3-4 others, and put their money into local tech stocks (dog sh1te); if you hit it lucky it also bought you the same sized Toronto house mortgage free. The young woman got to be equals, if they could break into the boys club. Again, bigger money, better prices.
• In 2025, the young man and woman, who want to get ahead work the infrastructure build out, sleep in a co-ed bunkhouse with 20 others, and put their money into utilities/start-ups; if you hit it lucky it again buys you the same sized Toronto house mortgage free. The young woman have trades, are equals, and some have their own companies. Again, bigger money, better prices.

Your first job is sh1te, and you live in a sh1te-hole in the middle of nowhere, until you can raise the funds required to get a better place elsewhere; the way it's always been. A new immigrant family opens a restaurant as the best way of using their labour that is otherwise unemployable.

 

There is no guarantee that life will be better than it was for the previous generation; life will be what you make of the opportunities you have, or choose to make elsewhere. Some will thrive, other's will not; the same as it has always been.

 

SD

 

Hi SD, I agree with most of that.  But as each generation moves forward, in most cases, things are better for the following generations.  

 

I'm comparing the environment how it was for my grandfather, then my father, then me and my brother who is much younger, and now for my nephew.  It's never easy, but each generation seems to move a bit more forward.

 

This trend continues with our friends and neighbours, other family members, etc.  Things slowly, but surely get better each generation.  Each faces different obstacles, but opportunity is there and their financial position is generally better than it was for their parents.  

 

I'm not suggesting that everyone has it easy and great.  Only that the bulk of the population will see improvements each generation...mentally, physically, financially, etc.  Cheers!