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[LC]

28 minutes ago, backtothebeach said:

After listening to the recent Joe Rogan podcast with Kash Patel, I looked this one up. Doesn't excuse any violence on January 6, but for context:

 

So MPD did not request National Guard assistance. And I guess your implication is that Trump obliged.

 

Didn't Gov Newsom also not request National Guard assistance? In this case Trump ignored him. 

 

Goes back to the point - Trump selectively fulfilling his duties based on his own personal preferences, rather than the law. 

[backtothebeach]

2 minutes ago, LC said:

 

So MPD did not request National Guard assistance. And I guess your implication is that Trump obliged.

 

Didn't Gov Newsom also not request National Guard assistance? In this case Trump ignored him. 

 

Goes back to the point - Trump selectively fulfilling his duties based on his own personal preferences, rather than the law. 

 

I'm not implying anything, just adding information, you can make your own conclusions.
 

My take is that the National Guard was available at the time, and was politely rejected. So your statement that Trump refused to deploy the national guard on January 6 is likely wrong. That's all.

[LC]

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My take is that the National Guard was available at the time, and was politely rejected

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/muriel-bowser-dc-national-guard-protests/index.html

Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller on Monday approved a request from the mayor of Washington to deploy DC National Guard forces to the city to support local authorities during pro-Trump demonstrations scheduled in the city this week, a defense official told CNN.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/pence-national-guard/index.html

As the chaos unfolded, doubts were raised about whether Trump would order the DC National Guard to respond due to the slowness of the response. Public statements by acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and other top officials suggested it was Pence who ultimately approved the decision. Miller’s statement Wednesday seems to indicate he did not even speak with Trump, discussing the matter with his deputy instead as sources told CNN the President was reluctant to even denounce the violence being carried out in his name.

 

Jan 6 was a political exhibition for Trump, at the expense of the US government, voting citizens, and the people who died and were injured that day. It took everyone other than Trump to quell the violence. 

Fast forward to today, Trump is quick to deploy the National Guard and Marines because it suits his personal political motives. 

[John Hjorth]

4 hours ago, dealraker said:

Yawl missin' the most exciting news...

 

I do believe Elon got down on his knees last night beggin' fer forgiveness!!!!????

 

Ring kissing cont'd :

 

New York Post [June 11^th 2025] : Donald Trump responds to Elon Musk’s late-night apology after ugly public feud.

 

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (Exodus 20:3)"

Edited June 11, 2025 by John Hjorth

[cubsfan]

10 minutes ago, LC said:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/muriel-bowser-dc-national-guard-protests/index.html

Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller on Monday approved a request from the mayor of Washington to deploy DC National Guard forces to the city to support local authorities during pro-Trump demonstrations scheduled in the city this week, a defense official told CNN.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/pence-national-guard/index.html

As the chaos unfolded, doubts were raised about whether Trump would order the DC National Guard to respond due to the slowness of the response. Public statements by acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller and other top officials suggested it was Pence who ultimately approved the decision. Miller’s statement Wednesday seems to indicate he did not even speak with Trump, discussing the matter with his deputy instead as sources told CNN the President was reluctant to even denounce the violence being carried out in his name.

 

Jan 6 was a political exhibition for Trump, at the expense of the US government, voting citizens, and the people who died and were injured that day. It took everyone other than Trump to quell the violence. 

Fast forward to today, Trump is quick to deploy the National Guard and Marines because it suits his personal political motives. 

 

Oh you're so funny LC, posting 5 year old CNN articles that were totally debunked by the House Investigation.  Can't even by honest about this shit.

[Castanza]

12 hours ago, Red Lion said:

I feel like you’re making my point. I said there’s clearly a point where the federal government can draw the line. I’d think rioters ransacking the US capital building is miles past that line. 
 

And you make a good, albeit non responsive point about January 6. Trump was impeached, acquitted by the senate, and got reelected. What’s the point? Should we completely abdicate federal sovereignty because trump’s an asshole? 

 

LC's response (no disrespect to @LC, he's genuinely a good dude) there is no rationality. It's pure tribalism. Pick your side and ignore the issues it might have. I've been tuned out of politics since April and honestly have no idea what's currently going on. But what's always scary is the ability of intelligent rational individuals to throw the baby out with the bathwater in order to justify their personal views. January 6 is an excuse for others on opposing sides and vice versa. That's how the spiral happens. 

 

I have no opinion other than the government has been, is, and will be a a complete mess for the foreseeable future. 

 

Back to me regular scheduled programming of no social media, gardening, working out, fishing and playing with my son. 

[changegonnacome]

Beijing Puts Six-Month Limit on Its Ease of Rare-Earth Export Licenses

https://www.wsj.com/world/china/beijing-puts-six-month-limit-on-its-ease-of-rare-earth-export-licenses-ec8277ed?st=6F2AZf&reflink=article_copyURL_share

 

This is what leverage looks like........the Chinese have been preparing for this trade war for 20yrs probably getting control of important critical items as a point of leverage if they ever needed it.....their structured thoughtfulness has paid off.....our guy (Captain Chaos) rolled out of the White House on liberation with no plan, not even a plan for a plan for a trade war....just a bunch of giant printed cards blowing in the wind with Islands named on them populated only by Penguins....and the results are what you would expect....he has got his head handed to him by the Chinese. Sad.

 

 

Edited June 11, 2025 by changegonnacome

[Libs]

19 hours ago, changegonnacome said:

States that Send More to the Federal Government (Net Contributors):

1. New York: -$89 billion
2. California: -$78 billion
3. New Jersey: -$70 billion
4. Texas: -$67 billion
5. Washington: -$55 billion
6. Massachusetts: -$46 billion
7. Minnesota: -$44 billion
8. Ohio: -$37 billion
9. Illinois: -$28 billion
10. Missouri: -$22 billion

States that Receive More from the Federal Government (Net Recipients):

• Virginia: +$79 billion
• Alabama: +$41 billion
• Arizona: +$40 billion
• South Carolina: +$37 billion
• Maryland: +$35 billion
• Mississippi: +$30 billion
• New Mexico: +$29 billion
• Louisiana: +$26 billion
• Kentucky: +$23 billion

The funny thing is watching politicians from net recipient states (like Alabama) telling States subsidizing them that they are a mess.....its kinda like your broke lazy alcoholic cousin (whom you lend money to on the regular) giving you financial & life advice.

 

 

19 hours ago, changegonnacome said:

States that Send More to the Federal Government (Net Contributors):

1. New York: -$89 billion
2. California: -$78 billion
3. New Jersey: -$70 billion
4. Texas: -$67 billion
5. Washington: -$55 billion
6. Massachusetts: -$46 billion
7. Minnesota: -$44 billion
8. Ohio: -$37 billion
9. Illinois: -$28 billion
10. Missouri: -$22 billion

States that Receive More from the Federal Government (Net Recipients):

• Virginia: +$79 billion
• Alabama: +$41 billion
• Arizona: +$40 billion
• South Carolina: +$37 billion
• Maryland: +$35 billion
• Mississippi: +$30 billion
• New Mexico: +$29 billion
• Louisiana: +$26 billion
• Kentucky: +$23 billion

The funny thing is watching politicians from net recipient states (like Alabama) telling States subsidizing them that they are a mess.....its kinda like your broke lazy alcoholic cousin (whom you lend money to on the regular) giving you financial & life advice.

 

 

 

Oh the irony.......badly run, big-city blue states with high taxes, crime, and crumbling infrastructure. But they tax the living hell out of their citizens so they can send money to that redneck on the couch in Kentucky! I love it!

 

I live in CA where we have 1/7 of the country's population but 1/3 of the country's welfare cases. Plus astronomical energy prices. Potholes in the roads, terrible schools. Homeless problems. Yes, the Dems are doing a bang-up job here!

 

 

 

Edited June 11, 2025 by Libs

[73 Reds]

10 minutes ago, Libs said:

 

The irony here.......'contributors' are big- city, highly taxed, badly run blue states

 

 

Oh the irony.......badly run, big-city blue states with high taxes, crime, and crumbling infrastructure. But they tax the living hell out of their citizens so they can send money to that redneck on the couch in Kentucky! I love it!

 

I live in CA where we have 1/7 of the country's population but 1/3 of the country's welfare cases. Plus astronomical energy prices. Potholes in the roads, terrible schools. Homeless problems. Yes, the Dems are doing a bang-up job here!

 

 

 

Yeah, how does sending more money to the Federal Government improve the lives of those States' residents?  Seems like an entirely useless metric.  Ideally you'd probably prefer to be in a State that makes neither list.

[changegonnacome]

5 minutes ago, Libs said:

But they tax the living hell out of their citizens so they can send money to that redneck on the couch in Kentucky! I love it!

 

Well first of all I should point out that my list above is Federal tax contributions.....the taxing being done here to send to  Kentucky is not being done by State level officials....its being done by whoever is in D.C.......the reason the federal taxes being extradited from NY/CA/NJ are so damn high is because of the federal tax systems progressiv nature married to the fact they are so damn successful (as measured by income/capital gains)....you can measure it in other factors like potholes or vibes if you like.....but hard to escape the fact that the most successful States in the Union (economically) are places that the right wing media machine would like to convince you are falling apart.....except they keep printing higher and higher GDP contributions every year.....

[thepupil]

interesting........

 

[dwy000]

regardless of your politics it's just downright embarrassing to have a government site post something like this.  Its like everything is being run by schoolchildren

 

[changegonnacome]

5 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

regardless of your politics it's just downright embarrassing to have a government site post something like this.  Its like everything is being run by schoolchildren

 

yep - this and Kristi Noem tweeting "suck it"....says a hell of alot about the folks running the federal government....people of true competency and integrity (regardless of political affiliation) do not act this way.

[cubsfan]

5 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

regardless of your politics it's just downright embarrassing to have a government site post something like this.  Its like everything is being run by schoolchildren

 

 

Ha, ha - just like the last administration, that had cross dressers stealing ladies luggage and running around naked on the White House lawn!

 

No one would believe it unless you saw it!

 

https://www.unilad.com/news/trans-model-rose-montoya-topless-white-house-069967-20230613

 

 

 

[Spekulatius]

18 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

regardless of your politics it's just downright embarrassing to have a government site post something like this.  Its like everything is being run by schoolchildren

 

I think if you have a mental model of Trump being a 13 year old petulant teenager, you are pretty close to understanding what’s going on now.

Edited June 11, 2025 by Spekulatius

[cubsfan]

2 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

I think if you have a mental model of Trump being a 13 year old spoiled teenager, you are pretty close to understanding what’s going on now.

 

As opposed to a party that fights to keep wife beaters and human traffickers in the country!

 

Talk about no common sense.

[Gregmal]

35 minutes ago, changegonnacome said:

 

Well first of all I should point out that my list above is Federal tax contributions.....the taxing being done here to send to  Kentucky is not being done by State level officials....its being done by whoever is in D.C.......the reason the federal taxes being extradited from NY/CA/NJ are so damn high is because of the federal tax systems progressiv nature married to the fact they are so damn successful (as measured by income/capital gains)....you can measure it in other factors like potholes or vibes if you like.....but hard to escape the fact that the most successful States in the Union (economically) are places that the right wing media machine would like to convince you are falling apart.....except they keep printing higher and higher GDP contributions every year.....

And you don’t think any of this simply relates to the long historically easy to trace history of cities and population centers? So like we re shocked NYC or Chicago which I think pretty much everyone can agree are a mess and have major structural issues…simply rank high on those lists because they are where mass jobs are located, simply as the result of having been there decades and even centuries? We re shocked JPM headquarters is in New York and there’s plenty of jobs there and this makes it a superior run place to say, Charlotte? Like what does this have to do with success or current issues?

[Gregmal]

11 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Ha, ha - just like the last administration, that had cross dressers stealing ladies luggage and running around naked on the White House lawn!

 

No one would believe it unless you saw it!

 

https://www.unilad.com/news/trans-model-rose-montoya-topless-white-house-069967-20230613

 

 

 

I prefer the tweets to this kinda stuff 

 

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2023/12/15/u-s-senate-staffer-filmed-in-gay-sex-act-in-senate-hearing-room/

[Gregmal]

2 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

And you don’t think any of this simply relates to the long historically easy to trace history of cities and population centers? So like we re shocked NYC or Chicago which I think pretty much everyone can agree are a mess and have major structural issues…simply rank high on those lists because they are where mass jobs are located, simply as the result of having been there decades and even centuries? We re shocked JPM headquarters is in New York and there’s plenty of jobs there and this makes it a superior run place to say, Charlotte? Like what does this have to do with success or current issues?

To further demonstrate, it’s hilarious how we ignore the other elephant in the room and that’s the benefit of big tech to California which again, has been there before the rot and deterioration occurred. So those massively “successful” companies and subsequent jobs and taxes….we re trying to portray that they are there because of today’s politics in California rather than in spite of it? GTFOH

[thepupil]

8 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

I prefer the tweets to this kinda stuff 

 

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2023/12/15/u-s-senate-staffer-filmed-in-gay-sex-act-in-senate-hearing-room/

 

I don't really see the relevance. low level staffer did something dumb got fired. young people like to have sex and do stupid stuff. either side could have had sex in congress and goteen fired. I had sex in my college's library* and a classroom for thrills...I would expect negative consequences if i got caught at the time (no recording devices were present). 

 

an official twitter account of a (theoretically) nonpartisan agency expressing strong political/partisanship openly and proudly is another thing entirely. 

 

i see the DHS tweet as something more along the lines of this kind of thing (which was very bad and done by the other side). 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

 

 

*an informal "graduation requirement" at my distinguished alma mater

 

 

Edited June 11, 2025 by thepupil

[Gregmal]

9 minutes ago, thepupil said:

I had sex in my college's library* and a classroom for thrills...I would expect negative consequences if i got caught at the time (no recording devices were present). 

#Respect

[Red Lion]

1 hour ago, Castanza said:

I have no opinion other than the government has been, is, and will be a a complete mess for the foreseeable future. 

 

Agreed 100% on this. And really, this is probably the best position to take as an investor. Falling into tribalism clouds one's vision, yet ignoring the complete train wreck of our government (soaring deficits and wild swings in policy and cracks in judicial precedent/rule of law) seems unduly complacent for investments. 

 

This core tenet is one of the reasons I've put a large percent of my net worth into privately held real estate that I control. There may be headwinds with recession/interest rates, etc., but if both sides continue accelerating down the deficit path it seems like a good long term inflation hedge to me. I think a protracted period of deflation is highly improbable since we could likely go back to easy money/inflation under either party. All bets are off if the USA utterly collapses, if I felt that was going to happen I guess I'd be heavy in gold and bitcoin. Tariffs and recessions all while having high interest rates seem like a poor setup for real estate, but also seem likely to be a short term phenomenon probably ultimately leading to lower rates to start shrinking the deficit if nothing else. 

[Red Lion]

15 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

To further demonstrate, it’s hilarious how we ignore the other elephant in the room and that’s the benefit of big tech to California which again, has been there before the rot and deterioration occurred. So those massively “successful” companies and subsequent jobs and taxes….we re trying to portray that they are there because of today’s politics in California rather than in spite of it? GTFOH

 

To further that point, many of these same companies and employees are leaving the state, or at a bare minimum diversifying. Just look at Reno, Austin, etc. to see the tech flight to more favorable jurisdictions. 

 

Also, all the $300k tech bro jobs are gone, and that's been a serious hit to the economy in California particularly. The red tape for personal/business/real estate/investment in California is out of control, and hip high earners have plenty of other options today that didn't even exist 10 years ago. 

[thepupil]

3 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

#Respect

it's really not that special, most people completed the assignment....ahhh to be young again....a quick google search reveals little mention of the practice for some 10+ years so perhaps this time honored tradition disappeared with the young folks drinking and having sex less. I'd like to think not. some things should kept sacred! 

[LC]

1 hour ago, Castanza said:

LC's response (no disrespect to @LC, he's genuinely a good dude) there is no rationality. It's pure tribalism. Pick your side and ignore the issues it might have

 

Well that's the point I've been trying to make: Either hold both sides to task, or hold neither side accountable.

But if you hold one side accountable and not the other, that is disingenuous.