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[cwericb]

2 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Sorry - House of Representatives  investigation trumps your BS.  

Right from the horse's mouth.

 

Just watch the incriminating video.

 

https://cha.house.gov/2024/8/new-obtained-hbo-footage-shows-pelosi-again-taking-responsibility-for-capitol-security-on-january-6

 

 

 

You gotta be kidding me!

 

You are still trying to put the blame on the Dems because they did not protect the Capitol from you guys on the Right.

 

Do you not understand how delusional that is? It's like blaming the guy who got mugged because he didn't call the cops to prevent him from being mugged. 

[Parsad]

11 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Sorry - House of Representatives  investigation trumps your BS.  

Right from the horse's mouth.

 

Just watch the incriminating video.

 

https://cha.house.gov/2024/8/new-obtained-hbo-footage-shows-pelosi-again-taking-responsibility-for-capitol-security-on-january-6

 

 

It's not the whole video.  Cheers!

[cubsfan]

Shouldn't this just be common sense?

6 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

 Shouldn't this just be common sense?

 

It's obviously one of the 80/20 issues (just like biological men beating up women in sports).  Every fair minded American knows what a disaster open borders created.

 

It's the #1 issue that elected Trump - because most Americans are about common sense.

[ourkid8]

On June 10, 2025, Canada, alongside the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and Norway, imposed sanctions on Israeli ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich, accusing them of inciting violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. These sanctions include asset freezes and travel bans, marking a significant shift in Canada's foreign policy towards Israel. 

 

 

[cubsfan]

2 minutes ago, cwericb said:

You are still trying to put the blame on the Dems because they did not protect the Capitol from you guys on the Right.

 

I know the truth hurts @cwericb But you can't change the facts. Sorry!

 

 “President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders and directed them to make sure any events on January 6, 2021 were safe. It is very concerning that these Senior Pentagon officials ignored President Trump’s guidance AND misled Congressional Leaders to believe they were doing their job, when they were not."

 

https://cha.house.gov/2024/9/transcripts-show-president-trump-s-directives-to-pentagon-leadership-to-keep-january-6-safe-were-deliberately-ignored

[Gregmal]

https://nypost.com/2025/06/10/us-news/la-anti-ice-looters-shatter-apple-store-and-make-off-with-iphones-adidas-in-another-night-of-chaos/

 

Just sooooo pro business I can't help but check out CREXI for some LA triple net!

[Sweet]

1 hour ago, changegonnacome said:

States that Send More to the Federal Government (Net Contributors):

1. New York: -$89 billion
2. California: -$78 billion
3. New Jersey: -$70 billion
4. Texas: -$67 billion
5. Washington: -$55 billion
6. Massachusetts: -$46 billion
7. Minnesota: -$44 billion
8. Ohio: -$37 billion
9. Illinois: -$28 billion
10. Missouri: -$22 billion

States that Receive More from the Federal Government (Net Recipients):

• Virginia: +$79 billion
• Alabama: +$41 billion
• Arizona: +$40 billion
• South Carolina: +$37 billion
• Maryland: +$35 billion
• Mississippi: +$30 billion
• New Mexico: +$29 billion
• Louisiana: +$26 billion
• Kentucky: +$23 billion

The funny thing is watching politicians from net recipient states (like Alabama) telling States subsidizing them that they are a mess.....its kinda like your broke lazy alcoholic cousin (whom you lend money to on the regular) giving you financial & life advice.

 

 

Nah, this is not how this work.

 

In the UK, London churns out much of the UK GDP contribution and there is a large net fiscal transfer to the rest of the country.

 

It’s a huge population centre where all the big businesses go, and they have all sorts of tax breaks and incentives.

 

But it derives its GDP from being the capital of the UK, chop off the rest of the UK and London doesn’t work they way it currently does.

Same with many of the places you listed.  How does the GDP of California and Washington and Texas work if they had trade barriers erected with the rest of the states?

 

And let’s not take an ‘all California is a mess’ maximalist interpretation of the critiques.  Most places are obviously fine,  but there are be places which are hell on earth - like skid row.

 

[thepupil]

10 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Let's not forget that the border was a "complex" issue and there was no easy solution...this after campaigning on open borders and cutting funding for border patrol and ICE. Among the many problems with the party, one of the biggest is they just can not seem to see the obviousness in doing simple things like this. You get a really expensive gift from the federal government, to help you clear out a bunch of shitbags, and the response should be "thank you". Instead, like tribal men, they need to turn it into a fight and be offended. Do they think LA or SF is MORE desirable with the lawlessness, looting and destructive violence? Shouldn't this just be common sense?

To welcome the deployment of the military on our own soil to engage in law enforcement outside of established things (like coast guard /  national guard for disaster relief etc) is not common sense. 
 

this along with the upcoming military parade portend dark times for the US and go against the separation of civil and military authority. more charitably, it’s a political stunt to project strongman machismo to the base. 
 

law and order is common sense. The imposition thereof by the federal military is abso fucking lutely not. 

[Gregmal]

4 minutes ago, thepupil said:

To welcome the deployment of the military on our own soil to engage in law enforcement outside of established things (like coast guard /  national guard for disaster relief etc) is not common sense. 
 

this along with the upcoming military parade portend dark times for the US and go against the separation of civil and military authority. more charitably, it’s a political stunt to project strongman machismo to the base. 
 

law and order is common sense. The imposition thereof by the federal military is abso fucking lutely not. 

I agree, 100%. But the reason, outside of yes this macho man stunt Trump is known for doing fairly frequently, is that LA and SF refuse to adequately police themselves. Either they are incapable or unwilling. Given their apparent annual tax hauls, it's clearly not a funding issue. At this point it just seems deliberate? Choosing to harbor these sort of types of people. That needs to be fixed. 

 

But...as I originally said way up thread...I dont like this one bit. Get the military out of there. Leave them to burn. They earned it. 

Edited June 10, 2025 by Gregmal

[Sweet]

7 minutes ago, thepupil said:

To welcome the deployment of the military on our own soil to engage in law enforcement outside of established things (like coast guard /  national guard for disaster relief etc) is not common sense. 
 

this along with the upcoming military parade portend dark times for the US and go against the separation of civil and military authority. more charitably, it’s a political stunt to project strongman machismo to the base. 
 

law and order is common sense. The imposition thereof by the federal military is abso fucking lutely not. 

But pupil, ICE are implementing the law.  LA is a sanctuary city and are not cooperating with federal government to administer the law.

Edited June 10, 2025 by Sweet

[cubsfan]

3 minutes ago, thepupil said:

To welcome the deployment of the military on our own soil to engage in law enforcement outside of established things (like coast guard /  national guard for disaster relief etc) is not common sense. 
 

this along with the upcoming military parade portend dark times for the US and go against the separation of civil and military authority. more charitably, it’s a political stunt to project strongman machismo to the base. 
 

law and order is common sense. The imposition thereof by the federal military is abso fucking lutely not. 

 

That is so wrong.

 

POTUS has the absolute right to take action in such situations. He has full authority to send in troops, as did Eisenhower, JFK, Lyndon Johnson, George Bush, etc when he feels it is necessary to restore or keep peace.

 

No one wants to see a repeat of the summer of 2020 when Americans witness 100+ days of rioting, cities burning, murders, etc.

 

[cubsfan]

4 minutes ago, Sweet said:

But pupil, ICE are implementing the law.  LA is a sanctuary city and are not cooperating with federal government to administer the law.

 

You point out the most important issue: Law & Order

 

Breaking federal law is very convenient for the opposition party. 

Rather than request Congress make new laws - this is how the party operates.

 

Don't expect an answer.

[thepupil]

It is not “common sense” that it’s the right thing to do. It is an extreme measure for extreme circumstances.

 

i strongly dislike an Apple Store getting looted or some cars burning, but it’s very unclear to me that that calls for a US military presence.

 

my local apple and lululemom have been oooted a few times. Three or four people got killed on Memorial Day a few miles from the White House. Crime happens and is a problem (in states both red and blue) and the judicial/other policies of some of the blue jurisdictions anger me to no end. 
 

BUT that does not at all clearly call for military intervention in a “common sense” kind of way.

 

and yes ICE enforced immigration laws. From my read, some 500 marines (not in ICE or the national guard) were deployed which I would regard as an extreme measure (and again a political stunt which is my less alarmist interpretation, my alarmist read would be more along the lines of a baby step to martial law).

 

I have not seen enough evidence that the circumstances justify such a measure. 

[LC]

2 hours ago, Sweet said:

It’s more than just politics and image.  They are actively preventing the enforcement of the law.

 

Trump is also actively preventing the enforcement of the law.

 

But the criticism I read here is that POTUS=Great ; Gov. Newsom = Trash

 

So which is it? 

[cubsfan]

1 minute ago, thepupil said:

It is not “common sense” that it’s the right thing to do. It is an extreme measure for extreme circumstances.

 

i strongly dislike an Apple Store getting looted or some cars burning, but it’s very unclear to me that that calls for a US military presence.

 

my local apple and lululemom have been oooted a few times. Three or four people got killed on Memorial Day a few miles from the White House. Crime happens and is a problem (in states both red and blue) and the judicial/other policies of some of the blue jurisdictions anger me to no end. 
 

BUT that does not at all clearly call for military intervention in a “common sense” kind of way.

 

and yes ICE enforced immigration laws. From my read, some 500 marines (not in ICE or the national guard) were deployed which I would regard as an extreme measure (and again a political stunt which is my less alarmist interpretation, my alarmist read would be more along the lines of a baby step to martial law).

 

I have not seen enough evidence that the circumstances justify such a measure. 

 

So you prefer another Summer of Love and wait 3 or 4 months until several other cities are on fire?    

 

Karen Bass will do everything in her power to stop ICE actions. She's on tape

many times about this.

 

Americans have seen this picture before - they are not stupid.

 

 

[thepupil]

15 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

I agree, 100%. But the reason, outside of yes this macho man stunt Trump is known for doing fairly frequently, is that LA and SF refuse to adequately police themselves. Either they are incapable or unwilling. Given their apparent annual tax hauls, it's clearly not a funding issue. At this point it just seems deliberate? Choosing to harbor these sort of types of people. That needs to be fixed. 

 

But...as I originally said way up thread...I dont like this one bit. Get the military out of there. Leave them to burn. They earned it. 

It's worthwhile to point out that SF is improving (from a low base) with a local solution. 

 

I am skeptical of the degree of drop here, but the anecdata from colleagues who visit regularly is supportive of a drastic improvement and most citizens on linked redditt thread seem to agree. 

 

i hate blue progressive policies toward crime for many reasons, but the federal military does not strike me as the common sense solution to those issues.

 

https://growsf.org/news/2025-04-10-crime-is-down/#:~:text=Published April 10%2C 2025&text=Citywide crime in San Francisco,first quarter of 2025%2C alone.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-san-francisco-lowering-crime-rates-2066544

 

 

[Red Lion]

26 minutes ago, Sweet said:

 Most places are obviously fine,  but there are be places which are hell on earth - like skid row.

 

Skid row has been growing like a cancer all over the state. 

[changegonnacome]

20 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

LA and SF refuse to adequately police themselves. Either they are incapable or unwilling.

 

Isn't that their own business?

 

And isn't minding your own goddamn business kind of one of the fundamental values that underpins American values....we fought a monarch & a King to mind their own business and get out of meddling in our affairs......and here we are a few hundred years later and a guy in D.C. is sending troops into California 3,000 miles away from D.C. cause he can't mind his own business.

[cubsfan]

8 minutes ago, changegonnacome said:

 

Isn't that their own business?

 

And isn't minding your own goddamn business kind of one of the fundamental values that underpins American values....we fought a monarch & a King to mind their own business and get out of meddling in our affairs......and here we are a few hundred years later and a guy in D.C. is sending troops into California 3,000 miles away from D.C. cause he can't mind his own business.

 

Seriously?    Let's not protect our citizens because Newscum & Bass won't?

[Red Lion]

15 minutes ago, changegonnacome said:

 

Isn't that their own business?

 

And isn't minding your own goddamn business kind of one of the fundamental values that underpins American values....we fought a monarch & a King to mind their own business and get out of meddling in our affairs......and here we are a few hundred years later and a guy in D.C. is sending troops into California 3,000 miles away from D.C. cause he can't mind his own business.

 

I agree with this principle in general, but what about when federal buildings and personnel are being targeted while the local law enforcement look the other way? I'm not saying that's happening here, but there would definitely come a point at which the federal government needs to draw the line.

[LC]

10 minutes ago, Red Lion said:

but what about when federal buildings and personnel are being targeted while the local law enforcement look the other way? I'm not saying that's happening here, but there would definitely come a point at which the federal government needs to draw the line

 

Like when the US Capital Building was ransacked by a riotous mob, egged on by the president (who resisted calling in the national guard, much less marines)

 

Gimme a break  

[changegonnacome]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

"You REAALLLLYYY need to get your shit together!"  Cheers!

 

 

"What you REALLLLY need to do Parsad is what I've been trying to tell you about - you got to get into this AI trade bro. Its gonna be bigger than the internet bro, I promise you bro"

[DooDiligence]

The AI's are eating the cats.

 

[cubsfan]

Well coordinated effort by the anarchist Democratic party to destroy American cities.  Tonight in Chicago, New York, LA.   Who needs law & order....

 

 

[Spekulatius]

9 hours ago, LC said:

The new marching orders are out, I wonder when it will filter down to the usual suspects:

 

I thought it was about illegal immigration’s. Stupid me. Now it makes sense why we deport immigrants with a traffic ticket.