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[SharperDingaan]

Back in the day everybody had the 8-12 setting bone china dinner set .... only brought out for special occasions. Today you can't give the stuff away .... so every morning its cornflakes eaten off of Royal Doulton China, the same with every dinner, and the whole lot in the dishwasher as regular dishes!

 

Times a changing!

 

SD

 

  

Edited June 8, 2025 by SharperDingaan

[Blake Hampton]

3 minutes ago, SharperDingaan said:

Back in the day everybody had the 8-12 setting bone china dinner set .... only brought out for special occasions. Today you can't give the stuff away .... so every morning its cornflakes eaten off of Royal Doulton China, the same with every dinner, and the whole lot in the dishwasher as regular dishes!

 

Times a changing!

 

SD

As a younger person, I've never understood older people's fascination with this stuff.

 

Please someone fill me in.

 

(I also don't want your china.)

[Spekulatius]

1 hour ago, Blake Hampton said:

As a younger person, I've never understood older people's fascination with this stuff.

 

Please someone fill me in.

 

(I also don't want your china.)

You never polished silverware for your grandma? The kind of silverware that contained real silver? The current generation is missing out on experiences.

Edited June 9, 2025 by Spekulatius

[Parsad]

2 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

As a younger person, I've never understood older people's fascination with this stuff.

 

Please someone fill me in.

 

(I also don't want your china.)

 

Actually if you are a tea or coffee drinker...both taste far better in bone china cups, rather than mugs or whatever you may use.  Cheers!

[ourkid8]

I don’t know if anyone is following however as the Madleen was reportedly intercepted and seized by Israeli forces in int'l waters, the UK gov must urgently seek full clarification and secure the immediate release of the vessel & its crew. The Madleen must be allowed to continue its lawful humanitarian mission to Gaza.

 

This ship is protected under international maritime law. This Israeli government has crossed every line possible, I guess what’s another war crime/genocide on their already laundry list.  
 

please pray for their safety for these innocent humanitarians as this barbaric illegitimate government cannot be trusted. 

Edited June 9, 2025 by ourkid8

[SharperDingaan]

If you could eat everyday off of bone china plates, using silver cutlery, and drink from crystal wine glasses ... you were rich. They were very high quality status symbol things that you got at weddings, or as dowry from a wealthy aunt.

 

Today, at a good estate sale, you can pick up the crockery and glassware at maybe 30c on the dollar, and eat like a king. So cheap,  that if you break or damage the odd piece in the dishwasher, you don't really care. When it's heavily tarnished, silver plate goes for less than the metal value. 

 

Same thing with real furniture made back in the day. Nobody wants it because it's not a built in, or the right size for today's smaller apartments. IKEA is preferable.

 

Nickles and dimes to be made for merely putting them to use.

 

SD

 

 

 

 

[lnofeisone]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

This ship is protected under international maritime law. This Israeli government has crossed every line possible, I guess what’s another war crime/genocide on their already laundry list.  

Wrong (and I love all the Reddit University lawyers!). This ship wasn't protected under international maritime law. Blockades can extend into international waters. Now, before Oct 7th, you'd probably have an argument that the blockade was illegal. However, since Oct 7th, Israel is at war with Gaza's legitimate and elected Gov't (Hamas), ergo, the blockade is now legal, and our friend Greta was lawfully detained. I guess you can add that to the list of misinformation pushed by the pro-Palestinian side. 

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

I don’t know if anyone is following however as the Madleen was reportedly intercepted and seized by Israeli forces in int'l waters, the UK gov must urgently seek full clarification and secure the immediate release of the vessel & its crew. The Madleen must be allowed to continue its lawful humanitarian mission to Gaza.

 

This ship is protected under international maritime law. This Israeli government has crossed every line possible, I guess what’s another war crime/genocide on their already laundry list.  
 

please pray for their safety for these innocent humanitarians as this barbaric illegitimate government cannot be trusted. 

 

Such BS - Hamas turned down a ceasefire deal last week that would have allowed humanitarian aid.  The Hamas terrorists, obviously, do not care about the Gazans one bit. 

[ourkid8]

1 hour ago, cubsfan said:

 

Such BS - Hamas turned down a ceasefire deal last week that would have allowed humanitarian aid.  The Hamas terrorists, obviously, do not care about the Gazans one bit. 

It surprises me how people can support an illegitimate government who is charged with war crimes. Don’t you have an ounce of humility for the woman and children being slaughtered and systematically starved to death? SMH. Forget about hamaas, you are a human first. Protect the children for gods sake!!!
 

Israel has no intention of allowing humanitarian aid into Palestine as we just witnessed. They are absolutely evil to the core. We are finally seeing more and more people open their eyes to the truth eg piers Morgan, former Israeli PM etc. 
 

 

Edited June 9, 2025 by ourkid8

[Parsad]

1 hour ago, SharperDingaan said:

If you could eat everyday off of bone china plates, using silver cutlery, and drink from crystal wine glasses ... you were rich. They were very high quality status symbol things that you got at weddings, or as dowry from a wealthy aunt.

 

Today, at a good estate sale, you can pick up the crockery and glassware at maybe 30c on the dollar, and eat like a king. So cheap,  that if you break or damage the odd piece in the dishwasher, you don't really care. When it's heavily tarnished, silver plate goes for less than the metal value. 

 

Same thing with real furniture made back in the day. Nobody wants it because it's not a built in, or the right size for today's smaller apartments. IKEA is preferable.

 

Nickles and dimes to be made for merely putting them to use.

 

SD

 

 

 

 

 

Everything these days has become disposable.  Partly because of complexity in design (computer chips, etc) or the cost of production has become significantly cheaper.  50 years ago, almost everyone owned their cars for 10 plus years.  Even if you bought a second car, you would keep each for at least 10 years. 

 

Same with quality furniture...it was passed down generations and would last generations.  I have some fantastic Thomasville mahogany tables (coffee, side tables, and sofa table) passed down to me from my Mom and Dad that they bought over 50 years ago.  I had them refinished by a professional and they are as solid as a tree trunk! 

 

My Dad also bought tons of jewelry for my Mom, thinking they would pass these precious gems and gold down to other generations.  Well, they didn't figure that their oldest son wouldn't get married or have kids, and their youngest son has one son and one daughter.  They didn't have any daughters of their own.  So my niece is the big winner!  She'll be inheriting a shitload of jewelry.  My Mom also decided to give away a few precious rings, necklaces to some of her nieces and best friends...she knows she can't take it with her, so giving away something meaningful to each was very touching.

 

My sister-in-law got the gold-plated cutlery set from my parent's wedding.  Probably worth $8-10K today.  She loves it because it matches the redesign of their home and she loves to entertain.  Nobody wants the china...a complete set of Royal Albert china...you can't throw this stuff in the dishwasher.  So I'm taking all of the damn cups and saucers because as I said, coffee and tea taste a shitload better in $80 cups and saucers!    

 

Cheers!  

[ourkid8]

1 hour ago, lnofeisone said:

Wrong (and I love all the Reddit University lawyers!). This ship wasn't protected under international maritime law. Blockades can extend into international waters. Now, before Oct 7th, you'd probably have an argument that the blockade was illegal. However, since Oct 7th, Israel is at war with Gaza's legitimate and elected Gov't (Hamas), ergo, the blockade is now legal, and our friend Greta was lawfully detained. I guess you can add that to the list of misinformation pushed by the pro-Palestinian side. 

The blockade's legality remains contested, with differing interpretations among international bodies and legal experts. There is a legitimate argument that it violates international law by imposing collective punishment on civilians as per the UNHRC and ICRC.   

[Parsad]

5 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

It surprises me how people can support an illegitimate government who is charged with war crimes. Don’t you have an ounce of humility for the woman and children being slaughtered and systematically starved to death? SMH. Forget about hamaas, you are a human first. Protect the children for gods sake!!!
 

Israel has no intention of allowing humanitarian aid into Palestine as we just witnessed. They are absolutely evil to the core. We are finally seeing more and more people open their eyes to the truth. These are the same people who previously sided with Israeli eg piers Morgan. 

 

I don't want to see the Gazans suffer, but when your people were almost completely made extinct just over 80 years ago, and the nations surrounding where you were forced to rebuild want to see you made extinct again, that kind of puts you in a situation where you want to eliminate the threat.  The other option is that Israel nukes Iran...would you rather see 2M dead or 20M dead.  The Israeli's cannot let aid in directly because there is no guarantee that aid won't be used to fund Hamas.  I don't like what is happening there, and I think Bibi has pushed the boundaries as far as he can, which needs to be investigated...but I also can't see how Israelis can simply "rinse and repeat" these attacks on their population for eternity.  Cheers!

[Milu]

2 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Everything these days has become disposable.  Partly because of complexity in design (computer chips, etc) or the cost of production has become significantly cheaper.  50 years ago, almost everyone owned their cars for 10 plus years.  Even if you bought a second car, you would keep each for at least 10 years. 

 

Same with quality furniture...it was passed down generations and would last generations.  I have some fantastic Thomasville mahogany tables (coffee, side tables, and sofa table) passed down to me from my Mom and Dad that they bought over 50 years ago.  I had them refinished by a professional and they are as solid as a tree trunk! 

 

My Dad also bought tons of jewelry for my Mom, thinking they would pass these precious gems and gold down to other generations.  Well, they didn't figure that their oldest son wouldn't get married or have kids, and their youngest son has one son and one daughter.  They didn't have any daughters of their own.  So my niece is the big winner!  She'll be inheriting a shitload of jewelry.  My Mom also decided to give away a few precious rings, necklaces to some of her nieces and best friends...she knows she can't take it with her, so giving away something meaningful to each was very touching.

 

My sister-in-law got the gold-plated cutlery set from my parent's wedding.  Probably worth $8-10K today.  She loves it because it matches the redesign of their home and she loves to entertain.  Nobody wants the china...a complete set of Royal Albert china...you can't throw this stuff in the dishwasher.  So I'm taking all of the damn cups and saucers because as I said, coffee and tea taste a shitload better in $80 cups and saucers!    

 

Cheers!  

There is a lot to be said about paying up for good quality items and holding them for a long time. I’ve heard it’s a good investment strategy too

[Sweet]

3 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

I don't want to see the Gazans suffer, but when your people were almost completely made extinct just over 80 years ago, and the nations surrounding where you were forced to rebuild want to see you made extinct again, that kind of puts you in a situation where you want to eliminate the threat.  The other option is that Israel nukes Iran...would you rather see 2M dead or 20M dead.  The Israeli's cannot let aid in directly because there is no guarantee that aid won't be used to fund Hamas.  I don't like what is happening there, and I think Bibi has pushed the boundaries as far as he can, which needs to be investigated...but I also can't see how Israelis can simply "rinse and repeat" these attacks on their population for eternity.  Cheers!

 

This, unfortunately.  If the shoe was on the other foot there would be no care at all for the Jews.  And probably much less international outrage too.

[lnofeisone]

4 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

The blockade's legality remains contested, with differing interpretations among international bodies and legal experts. There is a legitimate argument that it violates international law by imposing collective punishment on civilians as per the UNHRC and ICRC.   

Again, the blockade's legitimacy was contested before Oct 7th. At this point, you have a war. Blockades are allowed during wars. There is no legitimate argument that Israel is imposing collective punishment on civilians by blockading Gaza. Israel permits enough food to enter Gaza to provide for the civilians. Let's talk about Hamas stealing food that enters Gaza. The same food that is meant for its civilians. 

[73 Reds]

2 hours ago, lnofeisone said:

Again, the blockade's legitimacy was contested before Oct 7th. At this point, you have a war. Blockades are allowed during wars. There is no legitimate argument that Israel is imposing collective punishment on civilians by blockading Gaza. Israel permits enough food to enter Gaza to provide for the civilians. Let's talk about Hamas stealing food that enters Gaza. The same food that is meant for its civilians. 

Correct.  There was nothing remotely "civilian" or "humane" about the life of women and children in Gaza before October 7th.  The only chance surviving people there have is if Israel completely exterminates Hamas.  

[ourkid8]

2 hours ago, lnofeisone said:

 Let's talk about Hamas stealing food that enters Gaza. The same food that is meant for its civilians. 

 

stop it please, you are lying to yourself when you write this filth  - these are the lies that make people sick to listen to the Israeli government. As I said, absolutely disgusting inhumane individuals. The world is turning on them for their behaviour. 
 

1. yahya Sinwar - Israeli government performed an autopsy which showed he was starving himself. 
 

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241104-autopsy-reveals-yahya-sinwar-hadnt-eaten-for-3-days-before-assassination/amp/

 

2. israeli cabinet wanting to starve Palestinians. “Just and moral” 

 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/06/middleeast/israeli-minister-smotrich-starve-gazans-intl

 

3. Israeli former PM on starvation 

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/former-pm-olmert-slams-comments-by-ministers-on-starving-gaza-what-is-it-if-not-a-war-crime/

Edited June 9, 2025 by ourkid8

[73 Reds]

30 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

 

stop it please, you are lying to yourself when you write this filth  - these are the lies that make people sick to listen to the Israeli government. As I said, absolutely disgusting inhumane individuals. The world is turning on them for their behaviour. 
 

1. yahya Sinwar - Israeli government performed an autopsy which showed he was starving himself. 
 

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241104-autopsy-reveals-yahya-sinwar-hadnt-eaten-for-3-days-before-assassination/amp/

 

2. israeli cabinet wanting to starve Palestinians. “Just and moral” 

 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/06/middleeast/israeli-minister-smotrich-starve-gazans-intl

 

3. Israeli former PM on starvation 

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/former-pm-olmert-slams-comments-by-ministers-on-starving-gaza-what-is-it-if-not-a-war-crime/

Pal, the only "war crime" was committed by those who started the war.  

[ourkid8]

31 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Correct.  There was nothing remotely "civilian" or "humane" about the life of women and children in Gaza before October 7th.  The only chance surviving people there have is if Israel completely exterminates Hamas.  

 

Please read what the former PM of Israel has to say   

 

He goes on to claim that the ongoing conflict no longer appears to be “a war against Hamas.”

 

“This looks more and more like a political war,” Olmert says, accusing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and what he calls his “group of thugs” of driving the government’s actions.

According to Olmert, the government’s intents “can’t be interpreted in any other way” than as war crimes.

Olmert told the BBC last week that what Israel “is doing now in Gaza is very close to a war crime.”

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/former-pm-olmert-slams-comments-by-ministers-on-starving-gaza-what-is-it-if-not-a-war-crime/

[73 Reds]

2 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

 

 

Please read what the former PM of Israel has to say   

 

He goes on to claim that the ongoing conflict no longer appears to be “a war against Hamas.”

 

 

“This looks more and more like a political war,” Olmert says, accusing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and what he calls his “group of thugs” of driving the government’s actions.

According to Olmert, the government’s intents “can’t be interpreted in any other way” than as war crimes.

Olmert told the BBC last week that what Israel “is doing now in Gaza is very close to a war crime.”

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/former-pm-olmert-slams-comments-by-ministers-on-starving-gaza-what-is-it-if-not-a-war-crime/

That's all political nonsense.  Anyone who is even half-informed knows it.  Like all politicians, Netanyahu has his enemies.  Consider the source.

Edited June 9, 2025 by 73 Reds
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[ourkid8]

Just now, 73 Reds said:

That's all political nonsense.  Anyone who is even half-informed knows it.

Please, stop it. It’s so obvious what is happening that the country is turning on its government for the atrocities / war crimes being committed.
 

Again, please for gods sake - these are children being starved to death. Have compassion!!!! If you have kids yourself, would you want this happening to them? I wouldn’t want it happening to your kids on a human level. 

[73 Reds]

2 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

Please, stop it. It’s so obvious what is happening that the country is turning on its government for the atrocities / war crimes being committed.
 

Again, please for gods sake - these are children being starved to death. Have compassion!!!! If you have kids yourself, would you want this happening to them? I wouldn’t want it happening to your kids on a human level. 

Stop embarrassing yourself.

[ourkid8]

3 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

It hits home when mentioning your kids but for the kids starving and dying in Gaza it is meaningless?  Have some compassion...

[73 Reds]

1 minute ago, ourkid8 said:

 

It hits home when mentioning your kids but for the kids starving and dying in Gaza it is meaningless?  Have some compassion...

You are juxtaposing the concepts of atrocities and compassion.  There is no further use in discussing this with you.  Educate yourself.

[Xerxes]

8 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

  The other option is that Israel nukes Iran...would you rather see 2M dead or 20M dead.  The Israeli's cannot let aid in directly because there is no guarantee that aid won't be used to fund Hamas.  

 

where do you get this stuff ? What has one thing to do with another 

 

Israel owns Gaza/Hamas problem. Period. Iran or not, there is a problem there. 
 

Stop repeating Israeli propaganda

…

 

As far as the young lady on the boat heading to Gaza. It was a stunt. Nothing more nothing less. I would have also stopped her getting to Gaza. 

Everytime I read a post on this thread about Israel/Middle East from ANYONE is just people rehashing their favourite part of the argument. Get it over it folks. 
 

You are all getting ridiculous