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[Blake Hampton]

I've read a lot about the Holocaust, and I strongly recommend others do the same. These are among some of the best books ever written: 

• Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

• If This Is a Man by Primo Levi

• Night by Elie Wiesel

I feel like if the victims of the Holocaust could see what's happening in Gaza right now, many of them would be ashamed of Israel. 

[Blake Hampton]

I would also recommend reading the first 20 pages or so of Night. The book is only around 120 pages long, and it's very good.

 

Link: Night by Elie Wiesel

WW2 in general, to me at least, is probably one of the most interesting periods in history. A lot of what happened was deeply political, tragic, tough, I mean almost everything there is to being human. And the handful of men who were largely responsible for it could be counted on two hands.

 

Edited June 9, 2025 by Blake Hampton

[cubsfan]

9 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

I've read a lot about the Holocaust, and I strongly recommend others do the same. These are among some of the best books ever written: 

• Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

• If This Is a Man by Primo Levi

• Night by Elie Wiesel

I feel like if the victims of the Holocaust could see what's happening in Gaza right now, many of them would be ashamed of Israel. 

 

How foolish. So you are defending Hamas? 

[Blake Hampton]

8 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

How foolish. So you are defending Hamas? 

 

Please tell us your media routine Cubs: What do you read or watch every morning?

[cubsfan]

21 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

I feel like if the victims of the Holocaust could see what's happening in Gaza right now, many of them would be ashamed of Israel. . 

 

You really have not thought this one through, which is too bad.

 

Victims of the Holocaust were slaughtered precisely because no one could defend them.  Conversely, Israel is now defending their citizens from being slaughtered AGAIN to prevent a Holocaust.

[cwericb]

I have great concern for the people of Gaza. Netanyahu has taken matters way too far - likely because of the old political adage... "when you have internal problems - start external problems".

 

But let's not forget who started this war...

 

The government of Gaza (Hamas) invaded Israel.

They slaughtered over a thousand kids and young adults who were peacefully attending a MUSIC CONCERT! And then, then they continued their atrocities into local kabutz slaughtering babies, committing sexual violence, burning whole families alive, and taking over 250 civilians hostage. 

 

Where was the outrage from the Arab world then??? 

 

I do not support what Israel is doing, but I can understand it.

 

Edited June 9, 2025 by cwericb

[Blake Hampton]

36 minutes ago, cwericb said:

I have great concern for the people of Gaza. Netanyahu has taken matters way too far - likely because of the old political adage... "when you have internal problems - start external problems".

 

But let's not forget who started this war...

 

The government of Gaza (Hamas) invaded Israel.

They slaughtered over a thousand kids and young adults who were peacefully attending a MUSIC CONCERT! And then, then they continued their atrocities into local kabutz slaughtering babies, committing sexual violence, burning whole families alive, and taking over 250 civilians hostage. 

 

Where was the outrage from the Arab world then??? 

What Hamas did was horrific. I remember right after October 7th, Hamas recorded themselves parading around a naked women that they had just killed, and each one of her limbs was distorted and broken in different directions. Her body was hoisted towards the top of a pickup truck, drove down a street littered with civilians on both sides, and those same people were all cheering.

 

I understand why Israel was angry.

 

But I also don't think there's any way to justify genocide. Israel is basically becoming the same thing it initially sought out to destroy.

At what point is enough, enough?

 

When you kill 100,000? 500,000? When you slaughter each and every last one of them?

 

These are fucking civilians for Christ's sake. Men, women, and children who have zero affiliation with anything Hamas has ever done.

 

Edited June 9, 2025 by Blake Hampton

[cubsfan]

9 minutes ago, cwericb said:

I have great concern for the people of Gaza. Netanyahu has taken matters way too far - likely because of the old political adage... "when you have internal problems - start external problems".

 

But let's not forget who started this war...

 

The government of Gaza (Hamas) invaded Israel.

They slaughtered over a thousand kids and young adults who were peacefully attending a MUSIC CONCERT! And then, then they continued their atrocities into local kabutz slaughtering babies, committing sexual violence, burning whole families alive, and taking over 250 civilians hostage. 

 

Where was the outrage from the Arab world then??? 

 

I do not support what Israel is doing, but I can understand it.

 

This is a very reasonable position. Tactics can be argued about and disputed.

War is awful and should always be a last resort.

 

The most important function of any country is the safety and defense of their own citizens. Otherwise, like the Holocaust, your culture and people face extinction.

 

If you have a government that will not surrender, on a war they started, then as the other government, you simply have no choice. Finality and a chance for peace can only happen with unconditional surrender and humiliation of the weaker power.

[cubsfan]

1 minute ago, Blake Hampton said:

Men, women, and children who have zero affiliation with anything Hamas has ever done.

 

Another very foolish comment. You are giving Hamas a free pass.

Hamas is the elected government of the Gazans.

 

Your dislike of Israel is very misplaced.

[Marco Van Basten]

46 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

I've read a lot about the Holocaust, and I strongly recommend others do the same. These are among some of the best books ever written: 

• Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

• If This Is a Man by Primo Levi

• Night by Elie Wiesel

I feel like if the victims of the Holocaust could see what's happening in Gaza right now, many of them would be ashamed of Israel. 

Nazis executed dozens of my relatives.  I have visited several concentration camps.  I don't need books to tell me what happened.  You pontificate here about something you know nothing about.  I have yet to  see a suggestion from you or anyone else how to: a) get hostages back; b) punish terrorists what they did; c) make sure that people who voted and supported and continue to support Hamas never again support an organization that is dedicated to wiping a neighboring country of the map.  Come up with suggestions and then we can discuss.  All this hand waving is irrelevant. Tell me your solution and why it will work!

[Blake Hampton]

If you go back and look at similar, past events, this same thing seems to repeat like clockwork:

 

Gaza initially attacks Israel and kills people; Israel strikes back and kills 10x as many.

 

The only difference now is that Israel has killed 50x as many and doesn't want to stop.

 

And the Gazans who keep deciding to attack are also morons.

 

Edited June 9, 2025 by Blake Hampton

[73 Reds]

3 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

What Hamas did was horrific. I remember right after October 7th, Hamas recorded themselves parading around a naked women that they had just killed, and each one of her limbs were distorted and broken in different directions. She was hoisted towards the top of a pickup truck's bed, they drove down a street littered with civilians on both sides, and those same people were all cheering.

 

I understand why Israel was angry.

 

But I also don't think there's any way to justify genocide. Israel is basically becoming the same thing it initially sought out to destroy.

At what point is enough, enough?

 

When you kill 100,000? 500,000? When you slaughter each and every last one of them?

 

These are fucking civilians for Christ's sake. Men, women, and children who have zero affiliation with anything Hamas has ever done.

 

No Blake, that is flat out wrong.  Hamas is directly responsible for each and every death.  They use their own people as human shields.  They use schools, hospitals and shelters as military installations.  They steal food and money intended as aid in order to inflict more harm and destruction on Israel and its people.  They are corrupt to the core and have one goal - that is to eliminate the State of Israel.  For no other reason other than the fact that Israel exists.  Hamas must be eliminated.  They choose their own destiny and the destinies of the people under their control each and every day they refuse to surrender.    

[Blake Hampton]

Now you've been given a view on the subject from some random Oklahoman kid. Unless someone reading this is a Congressman, it means jack, so I'm out.

 

Edited June 9, 2025 by Blake Hampton

[John Hjorth]

1 hour ago, cwericb said:

I have great concern for the people of Gaza. Netanyahu has taken matters way too far - likely because of the old political adage... "when you have internal problems - start external problems". ...

 

... Where was the outrage from the Arab world then??? 

 

I do not support what Israel is doing, but I can understand it.

 

I concur with @cwericb,

 

It's just such a downer thinking about it. ...  - I have no constructive suggestions to add.

 

[ourkid8]

3 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

I've read a lot about the Holocaust, and I strongly recommend others do the same. These are among some of the best books ever written: 

• Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

• If This Is a Man by Primo Levi

• Night by Elie Wiesel

I feel like if the victims of the Holocaust could see what's happening in Gaza right now, many of them would be ashamed of Israel. 

 

Did you know, Holocaust survivors and their descendants have publicly condemned Israel's actions in Gaza, equating them to historical atrocities. In 2014, over 300 individuals signed a letter in The New York Times, denouncing the 'massacre of Palestinians in Gaza' and calling for a boycott of Israel. Similarly, in 2024, ten survivors labeled Israel's actions as 'genocide' and criticized the misuse of Holocaust memory to justify such actions. These statements reflect a significant divergence within the Jewish community regarding Israel's policies and actions in Gaza. 

 

They remember how they were treated and does not want history to repeat.  As Mark Twain said, History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.   

Edited June 9, 2025 by ourkid8

[Ulti]

2 hours ago, Marco Van Basten said:

Nazis executed dozens of my relatives.  I have visited several concentration camps.  I don't need books to tell

+1

I have not done this, but have visited Yad Vashem in Israel.. Can’t describe in words. 

 

https://www.yadvashem.org

as for solutions to the current Gazan war

I still think Tom Friedman has the best perspective on what’s going on , consequences and solutions 

 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tom-friedman-will-israels-war-ever-end/id1762898126?i=1000710403406

 

one can feel deepest sympathy for the Palestinian civilians ( also Syrians under Assad for example)… deepest sympathy for the Israel citizens and the horrific events of Oct 7 and aftermath…and despise both Hamas and the current Israeli government and right wing extremism that is currently in power…

[lnofeisone]

7 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

1. yahya Sinwar - Israeli government performed an autopsy which showed he was starving himself. 
 

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241104-autopsy-reveals-yahya-sinwar-hadnt-eaten-for-3-days-before-assassination/amp/

 

Arguing with pro-Palestinian side is a full-time debunking of myths. Israeli government or sources never reported that Yahya Sinwar was starving himself for 72 hours. I challenge you to find the article Middle East Monitor (MEM) is citing (or I can save you some time and tell you that the source MEM is citing is someone in Saudi Arabia).

 

Smotrich is a moron and his opinion is just that, an opinion. Not consensus. 

 

Shall I pull up Hamas's original charter that called for extermination of jews? 

 

[cwericb]

2 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

These are fucking civilians for Christ's sake. Men, women, and children who have zero affiliation with anything Hamas has ever done.

 

 

 

Look people, you might not like this, but it is a fact.... 

 

During war a country’s civilian population is generally held responsible for the actions of their leaders.  

(Not mentioning any names, but be careful who you vote for!)

 

From March to August 1945, the US firebombed Japanese cities, burning to death approximately 350,000 civilians. Another 120,000 people were obliterated in the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. (Why people are so critical of the A-bomb while ignoring the fire bombing, I don't really understand.)

 

In Germany, Dresden was firebombed incinerating another 25,000 civilians when the RAF and the USAF fire bombed the city which had no military significance as it was a cultural center. 

 

So it is the civilians who often pay the price in war.

[lnofeisone]

7 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

Again, please for gods sake - these are children being starved to death. Have compassion!!!! If you have kids yourself, would you want this happening to them? I wouldn’t want it happening to your kids on a human level. 

Nobody is being starved to death. Look at the girl who was starving herself for 9 days. She had to be carted to the hospital. Gazans civilians look fed and healthy (look at the hostage exchange cinema).

 

Ask yourself, if Gaza gets aid for free....why is food so expensive in Gaza? Who gets possession of the food to resell it at such high price? Take the emotions out. 

[73 Reds]

6 minutes ago, cwericb said:

 

 

Look people, you might not like this, but it is a fact.... 

 

During war a country’s civilian population is generally held responsible for the actions of their leaders.  

(Not mentioning any names, but be careful who you vote for!)

 

From March to August 1945, the US firebombed Japanese cities, burning to death approximately 350,000 civilians. Another 120,000 people were obliterated in the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. (Why people are so critical of the A-bomb while ignoring the fire bombing, I don't really understand.)

 

In Germany, Dresden was firebombed incinerating another 25,000 civilians when the RAF and the USAF fire bombed the city which had no military significance as it was a cultural center. 

 

So it is the civilians who often pay the price in war.

These are not ordinary civilians.  These people were literally dead the moment they were born into a terrorist, irrationally evil regime and then brainwashed with hate from day one.  They have no chance, unless or until Hamas is extinguished.  Buffett often talks about how we, here in the West won the birthright lottery.  These people lost and will never recover until the likes of Hamas is permanently gone.

[lnofeisone]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

 

Did you know, Holocaust survivors and their descendants have publicly condemned Israel's actions in Gaza, equating them to historical atrocities. In 2014, over 300 individuals signed a letter in The New York Times, denouncing the 'massacre of Palestinians in Gaza' and calling for a boycott of Israel. Similarly, in 2024, ten survivors labeled Israel's actions as 'genocide' and criticized the misuse of Holocaust memory to justify such actions. These statements reflect a significant divergence within the Jewish community regarding Israel's policies and actions in Gaza. 

 

They remember how they were treated and does not want history to repeat.  As Mark Twain said, History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.   

Did Irene Shashar or Shlomo Monsour sign it? Ah right. Inconvenient facts, right? 

[ourkid8]

34 minutes ago, lnofeisone said:

Nobody is being starved to death. Look at the girl who was starving herself for 9 days. She had to be carted to the hospital. Gazans civilians look fed and healthy (look at the hostage exchange cinema).

 

Ask yourself, if Gaza gets aid for free....why is food so expensive in Gaza? Who gets possession of the food to resell it at such high price? Take the emotions out. 

I won't even respond to this ignorant Zionist propaganda,  just do a basic search on what the Israeli cabinet is saying, former Israeli PM, President Trump, every aid agency, Canadian foreign minister Anita Anand, Canada's PM Mark Carney etc etc...  

Edited June 9, 2025 by ourkid8

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

These are not ordinary civilians.  These people were literally dead the moment they were born into a terrorist, irrationally evil regime and then brainwashed with hate from day one.  They have no chance, unless or until Hamas is extinguished.  Buffett often talks about how we, here in the West won the birthright lottery.  These people lost and will never recover until the likes of Hamas is permanently gone.

 

I think this is the best summary of the situation I've heard. I feel for the Gazans, but they have brought this upon themselves. You given them billions of dollars over many, many years - and instead of creating a great country, they put all the money to the destruction of Israel.  You can not help someone like that.

[John Hjorth]

5 hours ago, Blake Hampton said:

What Hamas did was horrific. I remember right after October 7th, Hamas recorded themselves parading around a naked women that they had just killed, and each one of her limbs was distorted and broken in different directions. Her body was hoisted towards the top of a pickup truck, drove down a street littered with civilians on both sides, and those same people were all cheering.

 

I understand why Israel was angry.

 

But I also don't think there's any way to justify genocide. Israel is basically becoming the same thing it initially sought out to destroy.

At what point is enough, enough?

 

When you kill 100,000? 500,000? When you slaughter each and every last one of them?

 

These are fucking civilians for Christ's sake. Men, women, and children who have zero affiliation with anything Hamas has ever done.

 

Blake [ @Blake Hampton ],

 

Please tell us, do you even own any listed stocks at all?

[Blake Hampton]

6 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

Blake [ @Blake Hampton ],

 

Please tell us, do you even own any listed stocks at all?

 

I'm about half invested in 4.

 

Other half's cash.

 

Edited June 9, 2025 by Blake Hampton