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[LC]

Fighting a religious war is a never ending pursuit. 

There will be no end, no two-state solution, no cease-fire...their gods will provide an bottomless well of blind hatred.

This is what happens at the extreme when religion runs the state.

 

Best we can do is isolate both sides so they are using sticks and stones vs. drones and missiles. But, that will never happen.

[Blake Hampton]

I still don't understand why no one is talking about Sudan.

I read that possible deaths from famine could be in the 10 - 25 million range.

[Blake Hampton]

What's currently happening in Gaza will do nothing more than fuel future terrorism.

[Xerxes]

31 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

I still don't understand why no one is talking about Sudan.

I read that possible deaths from famine could be in the 10 - 25 million range.

 

It is not “click” worthy. 
 

Now Afrikanners, that is something. 

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, lnofeisone said:

I separate the average Palestinian from Hamas. Though I saw a lot of ordinary Palestinians celebrating deaths of the Israeli civilians on Oct 7th. I agree with @cubsfan, Palestinians voted for Hamas (however long ago), and they get the leaders they voted for. I also think Palestinians, like the germans and the japanese in ww2, need total loss where there is no question that they lost. Not hudna. Total surrender.  Only then can they start reforming. 

 

You and I rarely agree on anything, so it's nice to see some common ground.

 

The only worthwhile victory is "unconditional surrender", which entails total humiliation of the enemy.

Palestinians will learn, that their chosen leader have led them to death and destruction without a prayer of victory. Why???  All for nothing of course...... tragic beyond belief. Nothing but hatred accomplished, paid for in innocent lives.... when your leadership takes you down this path and insures your destruction,,,, well - you picked the wrong leadership...... can Hezbollah, Houtis, Syrians, Iran help you..... I guess not.  FAFO.  So, so sad.

 

All decisive wars have to end in total humiliation...... so pointless, but radical Islam demands it.

 

Let them start again,,,,, their leaders will be murdered, innocents will die.

 

But you asked for it. 

[cubsfan]

57 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said:

What's currently happening in Gaza will do nothing more than fuel future terrorism.

 

No doubt. How will you stop it @Blake Hampton ???

[cubsfan]

27 minutes ago, Xerxes said:

 

It is not “click” worthy. 
 

Now Afrikanners, that is something. 

 

Actually, you are on to something.

 

The last thing the world wants to hear about is "black on black violence".

 

It's a very inconvenient narrative, I know Iive in Chicago, and because 95% of black murders is blacks murdering blacks, you are not allowed to talk about it. Anyway - that's Sudan, that's South Africa.

 

IF you say it, you'll be branded a racist. Look no further than Uganda. Millions die? Don't talk about it.

It's much more effective to talk about whites killing blacks.  Ignore the elephant in the room.

 

South African crime is off the charts.

[Parsad]

7 hours ago, changegonnacome said:

Elon Musk says Trump’s spending bill undermines the work DOGE has been doing

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/28/elon-musk-says-trumps-spending-bill-undermines-the-work-doge-has-been-doing.html

 

Kudos to Elon....he's 100% right.....and I'd imagine the truth is dawning on him......Trump used him & the DOGE theatre to create the illusion of fiscal prudence....while doing the exact opposite.

 

Ahhh, let's not feel sorry for Elon.  Arguably the smartest man in the world doesn't know when he's being used by arguably the stupidest man in the world?

 

He was perfectly fine prancing around Mara-Lago, giving the Nazi salute on stage and funding Trump's campaign with $300M...poor Elon...fucker is getting what he deserved!

 

Cheers!

[Parsad]

7 hours ago, lnofeisone said:

You are welcome to look these up. They are propaganda to the max.

 

 

Civilians ocassionaly drive into WB. The border is a lot more porous than you think. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-lightly-hurt-as-car-is-stoned-driving-into-west-bank-refugee-camp/

 

Here is the incident I was referencing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching. At your own risk, you can search for actual images beyond the idiot standing at the window with his hands bloody (VERY NSFW and GORE - but here is a link) . These are "Palestinian civilians" holding organs - hearts, intestines, etc., that they ripped out and strung up. I have an old computer I have in storage and have a video of it too if you care to go down that lane. 

 

Yeah, let's leave the gruesome pictures out of the site...I deleted the ones with the two sick children as well.  Cheers!

[John Hjorth]

12 minutes ago, Parsad said:

Ahhh, let's not feel sorry for Elon.  Arguably the smartest man in the world doesn't know when he's being used by arguably the stupidest man in the world?

 

He was perfectly fine prancing around Mara-Lago, giving the Nazi salute on stage and funding Trump's campaign with $300M...poor Elon...fucker is getting what he deserved!

 

Cheers!

 

It's almost killing me!  -And a car salesman! - At least you have to give him, that he appears to be much better at rockets than that little NK rocket man, who obviously haven't ever heard of Wegovy or Mounjaro!

[cubsfan]

3 hours ago, John Hjorth said:

 

Mike [ @cubsfan ],

 

Yes, it's unfortunately that simple, and certainly a calamity of dimensions. 

 

I remember a post by Lars [ @Viking ] pre merger of all political topics here on CofB&F in the topic about the Russian-Ukranian war' then, now merged into the political CofB&F 'soup' of that merger somewhere, stating about the Russian population that it was having no democratic culture, nor mindset.

 

In Microsoft language, is was long time ago called WYSIWYG. Ignorance and lack of culture are the worst enemies of progress.

 

Viking is a wise man.

[Spekulatius]

Gaza feels like Vietnam war remake ina different location. Hamas= Vietcong. Israel can will all the battles but lose the war. How ? Because they become isolated in the world diplomatically. it seems that even Trump get irritated and even if he remains on an Israel wide, he won’t be around forever and then what? What if polls go against Israel then I don’t think Trump is going to back Bibi either for long - he is known to change his mind quickly.

Bibi does not really have a winning strategy, his strategy seems to remain in power as long as there is war. Many European and neutral countries who supported Israel (more or less) are now criticizing them.p, so Israel becomes more isolated. I think Hamas may achieve a political win here even if they lose militarily. Again, look at what happened in Vietnam.

Edited May 29, 2025 by Spekulatius

[Spekulatius]

2 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Yeah, let's leave the gruesome pictures out of the site...I deleted the ones with the two sick children as well.  Cheers!

Both Trump and Musk use other people as tools frequently, so this should come as no surprise. Both needed each other but have different vision. The thing with Elon is while he is very intelligent, he has subpar social intelligence, which is quite evident when he was on display with Doge.

[Xerxes]

2 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Ahhh, let's not feel sorry for Elon.  Arguably the smartest man in the world doesn't know when he's being used by arguably the stupidest man in the world?

 

He was perfectly fine prancing around Mara-Lago, giving the Nazi salute on stage and funding Trump's campaign with $300M...poor Elon...fucker is getting what he deserved!

 

Cheers!

That is proof enough that he is not a robot. As he got carried away. 
 

He is human after all. 

[Xerxes]

2 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Yeah, let's leave the gruesome pictures out of the site...I deleted the ones with the two sick children as well.  Cheers!

Agreed. No picture and videos please. 
we already get that on news, and don’t need this thread to become “my picture is scarier than yours”. 

[cubsfan]

22 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

Bibi does not really have a winning strategy, his strategy seems to remain in power as long as there is war. 

 

Now that's a good one, after a totally brilliant military campaign.

 

Hamas, Hezbollah leadership - wiped out with stunning tactics. 

 

Iranian radar - totally demolished - now unprotected from IDF Air Force.

 

Houthi's creamed....

 

Good luck putting leadership back in place - they have about a 60 day shelf life.

 

Good thing they have hostages - otherwise, there leverage is gone.

[Xerxes]

5 hours ago, lnofeisone said:

WaPo and a lot of MSM ate up stories from Hamas. Most never bothered to read the entire story and reacted to picture. WaPo got their click from you.

 

How new are you to this conflict?

 

 

Euro-med monitor? LOL. The organization that failed to condemn Oct 7th attack that included burning, mutilating, and raping of Israeli citizens but somehow found the courage and words to criticize Israeli response? Be serious. 

 

 

50k dead in Gaza. Say 20k of them are Hamas. 30k civilians make up ~2% of the population. That's not an annihilation. 

 

I separate the average Palestinian from Hamas. Though I saw a lot of ordinary Palestinians celebrating deaths of the Israeli civilians on Oct 7th. I agree with @cubsfan, Palestinians voted for Hamas (however long ago), and they get the leaders they voted for. I also think Palestinians, like the germans and the japanese in ww2, need total loss where there is no question that they lost. Not hudna. Total surrender.  Only then can they start reforming. 

 

 

Say you are in 1967 and just finished the war. 

 

If you had the powers to decide (and knowing what you know now), what is the one or two (or three) things that you would do differently as the Israeli government, when it comes to newly conquered territories and people within. 

The year is 1967 and you need to decide. 

[DooDiligence]

20 minutes ago, Xerxes said:

That is proof enough that he is not a robot. As he got carried away. 
 

He is human after all. 

 

I don't know if I'd go that far.

[lnofeisone]

18 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

 

I would really question the most powerful military in the region if not the world when they have trouble fighting against a militia group such as Hezbollah.  Its a lot easier killing unarmed woman/children/press in the Gaza but that's just my opinion.  

The US also struggled against militia in Iraq. Doesn't make US any less powerful. It's hard fighting militia as a conventional force. See Lebanese civil war with all its massacres if you want to understand how to combat militia effectively (on the battlefield). 

[Sweet]

On 5/28/2025 at 10:19 PM, Blake Hampton said:

What's currently happening in Gaza will do nothing more than fuel future terrorism.

Let’s be honest Blake.  There will always be terrorism against Israel by the Palestinians.  It’s why Israelis right now don’t give a crap.

[DooDiligence]

If I had a nickel for every time I heard, "cease fire in the middle east" or "middle east peace talks began today", I'd have enough nickels to fill a Qatari 747.

[Marco Van Basten]

On 5/28/2025 at 6:44 PM, Xerxes said:

Say you are in 1967 and just finished the war. 

 

If you had the powers to decide (and knowing what you know now), what is the one or two (or three) things that you would do differently as the Israeli government, when it comes to newly conquered territories and people within. 

The year is 1967 and you need to decide. 

You know what I would do...

[Spekulatius]

1 hour ago, Marco Van Basten said:

You know what I would do...

The German word is Endlösung I suspect.

[Marco Van Basten]

4 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

The German word is Endlösung I suspect.

No, hell no.  

[dealraker]

Interesting from Financial Times in the recent tax bill:

 

Snippet:
"But what investors should also fret about, if they care about the state of Treasuries or are a non-American entity holding US assets, is a clause buried in the bowels of this behemoth called section 899. This would enable the US Treasury to impose penalties on “applicable persons” from “discriminatory foreign countries” by increasing US federal income tax and withholding rates by up to 20 percentage points on their US investments, on a variable scale. It might thus be viewed as a novel “revenge tax” (as some lawyers call it) that Trump could use to bully friends and foes alike in trade negotiations".

Edited May 30, 2025 by dealraker