Gregmal

Haha all the talk and the only thing Canada has done is make shitty old Jack No 7 a premium product.

Nah these folks think negotiating is lying lmfao

LMFAO this is a regular occurrence here. Although I haven't heard "nobody can explain the rationale for the tariffs" in about a week. So I guess we got new material!

Yup, and this is the deadly irony of the "I like to judge people or content by the sources"....it's the one thread many of the folks that always fall for it have in common. Their bias is in their predispositions and what they view as a "valid" source. Some hack journalists with the NYT are valid or hey maybe a bunch of never leave university dudes who sit in a lab spending grant money that all circle jerk to the same ideology....unquestionably valid and reliable.... To be fair I used to think like that too..that a "credible" source could provide inference, or even the opposite, that someone posting a shitty source was detrimental to their process...eventually it just became obvious, not to mention soooo easy given the availability of resources these days, to just do the work myself if I became captivated enough on a specific subject. Crazy or not, pretty much any subject can be vetted out through dozens of different methods in barely any time at all...You dont need the NYT, Fox News, The Guardian, WSJ, etc..at all really anymore. Sure, they can confirm things, but theyre merely part of the process, one input, out of many, because theyve outed themselves as being prone to disgraceful bias and propaganda pushing...so the joke really is on the people thinking that these things by themselves are valid sources.

lol as some of us have noticed, there seems to be a redundancy problem with you. As I stated before, I responded to the OP because it was rather stunning that you seemed to question the notion that Trump has strong support amongst Italians. Turns out I guess it’s just another case of the “citation” police. You’d make a good university professor for sure.

Which is fine, but that’s a you problem not a me problem. I’d generally want to go out at verify my own conclusions rather than have people feed me “their” facts. I don’t think I’ve once in my life asked somebody to cite a source or feed me one. If I care enough, I do it on my own. So if someone wants to make a statement I really don’t have any issues and if I do it’s on me to go find the truth. Otherwise we ll look like all those covid chumps or the MSM people; recall the Harris Trump debate where the ABC guy, the “fact checker” kept heckling Trump about a crime stat…citing some other blowhard bureaucrat data point, then a week later they find out Trump was correct? Regardless of who’s correct you can see the many flaws throughout…some media hack presenter having a bias, some flawed data collection process, heck even as is common, subjective reporting of actual crimes from the various law enforcement agencies…..any of those things can be manipulated to “validate” an agenda or a claim, but yea, those are dominantly the sources for facts that certain types like to use.

What does this have to do with what’s the gist of the discussion? Someone questioning medical experts whom said don’t go to the gym, or hid data and told us vaccines “stopped the spread” and presented us “their facts/data”, backed it up by studies from “their peers” and had media outlets sharing “their agenda” pump it all out to the masses, is wise; and can certainly be done without any taking of ivermectin or a blind following of social media people. This in fact, is why the people pushing “their facts” lost credibility; not because people are averse to facts, but because they create this narrative, self righteous and all, that anyone whom doesn’t accept their facts and sources(often grossly biased), blindly, is an ivermectin inhaling mouth breather in a red hat. As has been discussed, again, dozens of times here over the years, there are many, many different ways educate oneself; using many different sources or inflation gathering exercises, but the academic type always get mad that the answer doesn’t seem to be some bureaucrat published study/analysis/ report….

Well for starters I think it’s obvious that when data or “trusted sources” become obviously corrupted by the lying and dishonest experts, academics, medical professionals etc, for the purpose of pushing an agenda or controlling people whom take the typical “data” as gospel…that’s just a natural progression. I mean we all saw the spectacular consequences of the failures of the “data” presenters during Covid. But now they’re mad that they’re not taken seriously anymore and their rationale is that people don’t like facts anymore….lmfao

Well yea because it was kind of shocking someone would even contest it. But I see now we re back to splitting hairs. You didn’t want “proof”, just “evidence”….

No, not at all. Context matters. They all carry weight. Your “data” for this would be “polls” which are a laughingstock and have been for a decade plus now on anything Trump. You seem to want proof that Italian voters favor Trump. I am confident enough in this that I don’t need to waste time on it. And ultimately, should I, I’m not totally sure what it does to enrich my life anyway….

Well yea cuz they probably believed all those polls! You know from the gold standard journalists and propaganda outlets whom tried influencing the elections. Sometimes you just have to live in the world and make observations and hey, some are good at it and some aren’t. Just like when investing, some can make quick qualitative assessments and profit off it, while others sit around and need to spend all this time mulling over copious amounts of data(oftentimes useless or unreliable data)….latter ain’t my problem.

I mean if youre a NY metro area person, saying Trump has overwhelming support amongst Italians should just kinda be common knowledge. Theres not really anything more to it than that.

Yea totally. Another example of asking for “data” to derail and then claim victory without presenting such “data”. I know TONS of north NJ, Staten Island, NYC guinzos… and I’d be shocked if the Trump margin was “only” 12%. It’s probably closer to 70-80%, so maybe 35% margin honestly. And again I don’t give a shit on being exact, because directionally I’m correct and it leads me to be where I need to be, so wasting time citing sources or looking for data that just confirms what I already know doesn’t do shit for me.

This is just it. The derangement never ends and as such, no peace. Like with matters relating to Trump, with anything Putin related, they already have their minds made up and nothing will ever change that.

lol soooo smart. They’re reaaallly showing us! All of em regret it and all they’ve done is make shit stuff like Jack 7 premium products which guess what? When they come back, they’re gonna cost way more! https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-bye-bourbon-us-trade-war-1.7602431

Yup, remember how many times TAFFI crowd got hooked by “only snap Biden in aviators” or “get Elon mid jump” or “Rudi while he s sweating during a speech in August”….they can’t help it!

Over the last few months if nothing else we have seen that the MSM will find whatever narrative they want to in the CPI reports. Last week, same release, we saw nothing. While also seeing "inflation softer than expected" while it also "comes in hotter than expected". CNBC literally had both those same headlines at once! Then when that doesnt work we fixate on the next report. We're told specific goods are going to increase because of tariffs, such as autos, groceries, etc....and they go down but then they say "services" went up because of tariffs. Oh nice, portfolio management fees 5% gee goly.....hike those rates! Then next month they go down but groceries go up a fraction of a point and it's "see they went up"....End of the day I think there is very little value in trying to extrapolate or draw rate of change conclusions on these stupid, random, normally fluctuating monthly tenths of one percent data points. Been there, seen that now since 2022. And honestly, even if we do these extrapolations, ~3% inflation wont dent anything meaningful economically. The big boogeyman exists solely to feed off attention.

Yup. Politicians are like actors or WWE participants…it’s all for show and the end game is just about their own self interest

Migration of millennials is really the tipping point. Yes, theres always been migration. In the Northeast where I lived my whole life(NYC suburb), it was a given mom and pop retired and moved to FL. If they had money they'd keep the place up here and spend summers. Everyone left though upon hitting a certain age. Why didnt younger people? Mainly because they were reliant on their jobs. With remote work and the buildout of ecommerce, there are now plenty of other cities and regions that can offer folks an income. That changes everything and thats likely why we are seeing young people move around so much.

And theres words that carry the same weight on the other side as well. For instance I am pretty certain @73 Reds is the furthest thing from a "cult member"; something with a generally accepted connotation thats far worse than "moron" or "loser". I ve had reasonable dialogue with him over the years here....or @whiskybravo Ive met...definitely not a "cult member". But those sorta terms come out just the same. I dont think either(just using these as examples) are big fans of pedos or felons either. But that stuff is slung constantly. One of the funniest exchanges I witnessed recently was a few months ago two people(both members here) with probably polar opposite political views, whom have in fact sparred head to head in some of these threads....got together and had a great time at a restaurant...not having a clue each others handles.....internet quarrel should never be taken seriously.

Youre taking this wayyyyyyyyy tooooo seriously. Political quarreling should be little different than football where you go out there and beat up or get beat up and then should be able to go sit down after and have a beer. Nothing personal. But to each their own.

Totally. Can see increased wages, improving economy etc outweigh gross price increases if they occur, at least as expressed in purchasing power.

Never…..quite….bold enough….to….engage…directly! nice

Nice so you can admit my point for me, just not to me!

Yes, if you want to split hairs to nitpick like you've become known to do about everything, yes I was incorrect. Technically theres more bodies with a pulse in NYC today, than last year, by like one tenth of one fraction of a percent or something super nitpicky. However if you follow the commentary around the subject now for years, and especially mine(which you seem to follow closely) you'd know the context of my reference relates to desirables leaving. Folks and businesses that contribute substantially to their local economies. People whom make up the majority of the tax base. But yea...guess you "got me"..