Castanza Posted January 26 Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: Protesters inside the Michigan state capitol April of 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/politics/michigan-state-capitol.html I’m not sure I understand the point of this post in response to what I said?
DooDiligence Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Castanza said: I’m not sure I understand the point of this post in response to what I said? No, this wasn't intended as criticism of anything you said. We agree on many points. I posted it in response to you because I'm trying to avoid directly engaging with the individual you were responding to. Just trying to make a point about hypocrisy. Edited January 26 by DooDiligence
Castanza Posted January 26 Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, cubsfan said: The man had 30-50 rounds of ammo. Why? He had a conceal carry license. Great. He immediately needs to realize he's a dangerous individual - and of course law enforcement would think so. They know nothing about the individual other than he won't listen to commands. Why did he not comply? Why did he resist law enforcement? Why would he do that? You guys are all saying it's perfectly ok for law enforcement to blow away someone who is unarmed and climbing through a window. But a guy that is heavily armed and resisting is NOT a threat to law enforcement. Circular logic, liberal logic got this guy killed. No you are simply refusing to use common sense. As I said before the lady was climbing through a window with a mob to a room that had no other escape for members of Congress. Last stand, castle doctrine, oath to protect by the police. This guy had a CCW, did not brandish his firearm and was clearly protecting that lady. He was pepper sprayed and detained before being shot. If I get pulled over for speeding and have my handgun in my belt does that mean I’m a dangerous individual that can be shot? I mean ffs
DooDiligence Posted January 26 Posted January 26 As usual though, the point gets ignored by certain individuals here. Why? Because they got nothing when this kind of stuff gets rubbed into their faces. Better to ignore it.
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 29 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Look, he was clearly dumb for getting all wrapped up in the political rage and active protests(again apparently per his father this had recently become a regular activity of his), but if that’s the bar for getting killed by law enforcement why even have a second amendment? That’s the issue. Can a person carrying via their second amendment rights have an encounter with law enforcement that isn’t a mandatory death sentence? I would like to think so. Of course he can conceal carry. The responsibility is his not to interfere or resist law enforcement. It's as simple as that. They couldn't even control him. Would you have done such a reckless thing with Florida Police?
Castanza Posted January 26 Posted January 26 There is no shortage of armed protestors in this country. Be it the Black Panthers in Olympia or the Boogaloo Boys….its law enforcements job to parse the details and do their job. A tough one indeed. But ICE has not been de-escalating any of these situations. They smash and grab and crack skulls. They violate rights, refuse to read rights, cite laws or violations, or give any probably cause for many of their actions. Defending this is tantamount to defending the Kent State shooting.
Gregmal Posted January 26 Posted January 26 (edited) 6 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Of course he can conceal carry. The responsibility is his not to interfere or resist law enforcement. It's as simple as that. They couldn't even control him. Would you have done such a reckless thing with Florida Police? lol I’ve said many times before that only losers protest in the streets like that all rabid with posters and bullhorns. Doesn’t matter “what side”….like find something better to do with your lives for god sakes…so no, I wouldn’t be caught dead doing shit like that….literally Then again, this type of lawlessness doesn’t happen in places like Florida… Edited January 26 by Gregmal
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, Castanza said: No you are simply refusing to use common sense. As I said before the lady was climbing through a window with a mob to a room that had no other escape for members of Congress. Last stand, castle doctrine, oath to protect by the police. This guy had a CCW, did not brandish his firearm and was clearly protecting that lady. He was pepper sprayed and detained before being shot. If I get pulled over for speeding and have my handgun in my belt does that mean I’m a dangerous individual that can be shot? I mean ffs Oh my - how ridiculous. An unarmed lady was a deadly threat to Congress. 100% justified. Dude - you really take the cake. Now you sound like @lnofeisone - shoot all the unarmed protestors. You guys are sick.
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Castanza said: There is no shortage of armed protestors in this country. Be it the Black Panthers in Olympia or the Boogaloo Boys….its law enforcements job to parse the details and do their job. A tough one indeed. But ICE has not been de-escalating any of these situations. They smash and grab and crack skulls. They violate rights, refuse to read rights, cite laws or violations, or give any probably cause for many of their actions. Defending this is tantamount to defending the Kent State shooting. That's your opinion, which you are entitled too. I see it completely differently - and now that citizens are stepping in between the arrests of violent illegal criminals and ICE- the situation is getting very dangerous. No thanks to MN Gov & Mayor. You are not seeing these situations in Florida and Texas where they have the full cooperation of local law enforcement.
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, Gregmal said: lol I’ve said many times before that only losers protest. Doesn’t matter “what side”….like find something better to do with your lives for god sakes…so no, I wouldn’t be caught dead doing shit like that….literally Then again, this type of lawlessness doesn’t happen in places like Florida… I know that about you. You are much too level headed and logical to so such a thing.
cwericb Posted January 26 Posted January 26 33 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: Protesters inside the Michigan state capitol April of 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/politics/michigan-state-capitol.html All probably working for ICE now. Wondering which one is Cubs in the picture above?
Gregmal Posted January 26 Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I know that about you. You are much too level headed and logical to so such a thing. It’s actually kinda ironic because compared to pretty much everyone I know, I’m pretty easily the most anti 2nd amendment person around. And my thinking is generally pretty straight forward…the simple presence of a firearms greatly increases the odds of having a firearms related event…which is exactly what happened here.
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 minute ago, cwericb said: All probably working for ICE now. Wondering which one is Cubs in the picture above? Yeah, that's me ,,, helping protect congress from the very dangerous Ashli Babbitt that was going to murder congressmen. Good thing we shot her dead. I though you would be proud.
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Just now, Gregmal said: It’s actually kinda ironic because compared to pretty much everyone I know, I’m pretty easily the most anti 2nd amendment person around. And my thinking is generally pretty straight forward…the simple presence of a firearms greatly increases the odds of having a firearms related event…which is exactly what happened here. I am as well. I don't own a gun. I don't like guns. But I understand why individuals may need them. Good thing I moved out of Chicago.
LC Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Cubs, buddy you're just wrong here. It's not even worth arguing. Greg, yeah protesting is annoying but let's be real it did help like 60% of the US population gain the constitutional right to vote. Also: Busy thread this afternoon/evening...I recommend you guys all pick up a winter hobby! Hard to be too angry when skiing on fresh snow IMO
Gregmal Posted January 26 Posted January 26 13 minutes ago, LC said: Greg, yeah protesting is annoying but let's be real it did help like 60% of the US population gain the constitutional right to vote. Sure, but now we have the internet so those bums can congregate on Twitter or Reddit or whatever rather than gunk up our streets…that said, as long as this stuff stays in the dumps like Minny or DC I’m kinda indifferent to it
Gregmal Posted January 26 Posted January 26 https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/us-news/ex-vikings-captain-jack-brewer-slams-anti-ice-liberals-thugs/
RichardGibbons Posted January 26 Posted January 26 6 hours ago, Spekulatius said: No doubt the desensitization is true. I do think we get on a slippery autocratic oath and are on the verge of major civil unrest which open up another can of worms if we get closer to martial law. It does I also scratch it my head why Homeland security uses Nazi like up imagery and messaging. If you know the Nazi slogan’s in German you see a write similarity. They even use the German capital spelling for some words. I would genuinely like to know what they are trying to accomplish here other than boiling frogs… There are always people oblivious on these changes until it is too late. Oh it won’t happen here! But, it’s not like the constitution will prevent this from happening unless citizens are alert to what is happening and acting and voting accordingly. I think the civil unrest is the goal. I think Trump's trying to figure out ways around the 22nd amendment. He's been floating ideas and it seemed like the politicians in general aren't keen on violating his term limits. So, I suspect his best idea to remain in power beyond his term is through mass civil unrest where he's "forced" to declare martial law that won't end until after his death. It's also possible that he's realized that he actually might only have a year left to start that mass civil unrest because of the possibility of losing the midterms and being instantly impeached.
cubsfan Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Oh boy, now this is going to get good. Looks like the feds have busted into the Minnesota rioter's signal chat groups with the help of infiltrators. Multiple screen shots showing up on how to organize, resist and impede ICE agents. Organizers busted into the State of Minnesota Vehicle system to obtain license plate info.....with the help of state employees that are part of their signal chat groups. Big, big trouble - no wonder Tim Walz & Jacob Frey are frantically trying to get rid of the FBI, ICE and every other Federal Law enforcement group. The fun is just beginning.
lnofeisone Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, cubsfan said: Oh boy, now this is going to get good. Looks like the feds have busted into the Minnesota rioter's signal chat groups with the help of infiltrators. Multiple screen shots showing up on how to organize, resist and impede ICE agents. Organizers busted into the State of Minnesota Vehicle system to obtain license plate info.....with the help of state employees that are part of their signal chat groups. Big, big trouble - no wonder Tim Walz & Jacob Frey are frantically trying to get rid of the FBI, ICE and every other Federal Law enforcement group. The fun is just beginning. oh, no! Fox is working overtime trying to use every scare word in its arsenal to exaggerate this. Big bad communists, Leninists, and Marxists are coming to get you! And then you look at the screenshot of the texts, and it says "observer is shot. Please come asap." Then you get some fringe left lunatics using this shooting to their advantage. To the surprise of no one. Instead of owning this as a bad shooting and promising to investigate and improve, MAGA is trying to double down. Honestly, if there was a way to ship MAGA and far left lunatics to some place where they could figure out their issues, I'd vote for that.
Parsad Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/24/2026 at 8:06 AM, cwericb said: Well Cubs, according to your tourism numbers it seems pretty hard to find a Canadian on the dark side of the border these days. Now, talking about military importance, I'm trying to remember the last time you guys were on the wining side in a war - WWII, 80 years ago perhaps ? C'mon cwericb! They just manhandled Venezuela and got rid of my favorite type of cigar...Maduro! Cheers!
Parsad Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/24/2026 at 9:29 AM, cubsfan said: Comrade Carney has definitely got game. @SharperDingaan is 100% right about the impeding bench clearing brawl - it's coming and will be entertaining. Reminds me of the 1980's when the North American's (composed almost of all Canadians) started playing the great Europeans in Hockey. The European/Soviet style: fast skating, great stick work, terrific skills - like a nice polite little tea party.. The North American's (again dominated by Canada): brutal checking, bodies flying all over the place, totally gloves off. That's Trump. The game is on. Watch the crosschecking. Commie Carney, backed by the CCP, definitely has game. Didn't see you call Trump, "Commie Trump" whenever he makes any tariff concession to China...or when he eats out Putin's ass! Cheers!
Parsad Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/24/2026 at 2:41 PM, cubsfan said: Just think: Dumb ass protestor decides to bring a gun to the protest of law enforcement arrest. Then dumb ass decides to actively interfere with the LAWFUL arrest of a convicted felon. Oops, but law enforcement sees the man actively interfering is ARMED and dangerous. Hey ! Someone might get killed! This is serious stuff. Result: Dumb ass libtard gets himself shot dead. You can't make this shit up. Libtards never learn. You jackasses are the ones with the open carry rules! He was carrying. He didn't pull the gun out. When they lifted his shirt, they saw the gun and disarmed him. They then shot him after another ICE officer yelled "gun"...two other dipshit ICE officers started shooting without realizing they had already disarmed him. You can call him what you want...libtard...commie...whatever. But this was a U.S. citizen shot dead with 11 shots after he was disarmed by 7 ICE officers! Cheers!
Parsad Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/24/2026 at 7:27 PM, areef said: I have been a long time lurker on this board. I have worked with Alex for a number of years. He was a very kind and outstanding nurse. While he had a gun - he had it legally. He didn’t have it in his hands. He was a nurse and did what a good nurse does - went to the rescue of another woman who was being attacked. He only had his phone in his one hand and nothing in the other. He seemed to be on the ground fully subdued when he was shot. It really is a tragedy. Sorry for your loss Areef! The world has gone mad...maybe never was sane to being with! Cheers!
Parsad Posted January 26 Posted January 26 On 1/24/2026 at 8:33 PM, cubsfan said: Of course you do! And when you approach law officers with malice - and don't disarm or comply - it's a recipe for disaster and tragedy. He didn't approach law officers. There was a woman thrown on the ground by ICE and he went to help her up. They grabbed him and dragged him to the ground after he tried to help her up. Cheers!
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