Spekulatius Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) Just think about this. A citizen got killed (some would claim murdered) and Stephen Miller called him an assassin. Right out of Orwells 1984 playbook: i guess one can add the phrase: Victims are terrorists and assassins. Edited January 25 by Spekulatius
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 45 minutes ago, cwericb said: Really? There was a question? I didn't see one. As I said, I hope to hell for the sake of justice you are never on a jury. So predictable. The coward's way out once again. When faced with this dilemma - Under what circumstances is the shooting of an UNARMED PROTESTOR legal and justified?? Use the Ashley Babbitt shooting as the example. @cwericb You are now the proud winner of the CoBF Taco award because ONCE AGAIN you will dodge a question that is being beaten to death these last several pages.
Gregmal Posted January 25 Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Spekulatius said: I would rather be overreacting than under- reacting at this point. Whether Trump goes full bore autocracy with martial law declared I don’t know, but if they do, the stonk market and non binary bathrooms will be the least of our concerns. Sure, but when you’ve been screaming “Nazi” at anyone and anything that you disagree with for the past decade plus, it desensitizes people to the rhetoric. Especially since past cries of “Nazi” have turned out to be completely fabricated nonsense. And this doesn’t even touch on @fleshs point above; and that’s that the same folks screaming “Nazi” everywhere have become very aggressive in the embracing of antisemitism….
Charlie Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 13 minutes ago, dwy000 said: 22 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: I think there are three lessons that we should all take away and impart to our kids and for some grandkids: Don't go to protests. If you do, don't confront the police. If you do go to a protest, don't bring weapons. Protests have been the starting point for just about every single significant political change in history. Saying dont protest is effectively saying just do what the government wants you to do. He was legally carrying the gun and never took it out himself. He was following the law. Are you saying we need more gun control? There is really only just one lesson we should take away and impart to our kids and for some grandkids: Never, never, never by any means vote for an idiotic, ignorant president. Edited January 25 by Charlie
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, cubsfan said: So predictable. The coward's way out once again. When faced with this dilemma - Under what circumstances is the shooting of an UNARMED PROTESTOR legal and justified?? Use the Ashley Babbitt shooting as the example. @cwericb You are now the proud winner of the CoBF Taco award because ONCE AGAIN you will dodge a question that is being beaten to death these last several pages. Who the f*** is Ashley Babbitt and what part did she play in these demonstrations? And what dilemma are you talking about? What coward are you talking about, the goon that shot the peaceful protester while helping a woman off the ground? Cubs are you off your meds or something? I have no idea of what getting at.
SharperDingaan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: I think there are three lessons that we should all take away and impart to our kids and for some grandkids: Don't go to protests. If you do, don't confront the police. If you do go to a protest, don't bring weapons. Once you've been in one, you will never forget how easy it is to use madness to manipulate crowds. Leave the weapons at home; bring goggles/milk instead (tear gas gets into everything), and learn. Couple months later spend some time in a good library, reading hard-copy books on crowd suppression .... minimises the digital footprint SD
Castanza Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, cubsfan said: Peaceful protestor shows up to "peacefully protest" ICE with a loaded handgun, two spare magazines, and no identification. Neither if which is illegal or a crime. ICE not only acted illegally, but immorally. Where do you draw the line Cubs? Even IF he didn’t have a permit to carry and he truly was obstructing a lawful stop there is NO justification for the outcome. It’s not the police’s job to carry out justice…that’s for the courts. This guy was held down by 5 agents, had his legal firearm taken from him (which was never brandished) and was shot and murdered at point blank range 14 times. If that is not alarming to you then you’re too far gone. Ffs man you sound like one of the bystanders cheering on the “Death Dealer” during the Kaunas pogrom. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaunas_pogrom Edited January 25 by Castanza
Castanza Posted January 25 Posted January 25 10 minutes ago, Gregmal said: Sure, but when you’ve been screaming “Nazi” at anyone and anything that you disagree with for the past decade plus, it desensitizes people to the rhetoric. Especially since past cries of “Nazi” have turned out to be completely fabricated nonsense. And this doesn’t even touch on @fleshs point above; and that’s that the same folks screaming “Nazi” everywhere have become very aggressive in the embracing of antisemitism…. Hard to deny this is getting closer though…and my concern is the swing of the pendulum. Both sides are fully capable of ratcheting the authoritarianism up. As Spek said I’d rather over react than under react. America was built on checks and balances before the ball got rolling. The citizens are supposed to be very wary of anything that even remotely resembles authoritarianism. The problem is we seem to be stuck in this “it’s no big deal if it’s my side in charge” paradigm.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, cwericb said: Who the f*** is Ashley Babbitt and what part did she play in these demonstrations? And what dilemma are you talking about? What coward are you talking about, the goon that shot the peaceful protester while helping a woman off the ground? Cubs are you off your meds or something? I have no idea of what getting at. The whole world knows Ashley Babbitt, the Trump supporter that climbed through a broken window in the US Capitol on Jan 6th. She attempting to climb through the window and shot dead by Pelosi's Capitol Police. She was 5' 2" and unarmed. The shooting was justified by the Biden DOJ. Congratulations on your cowardly dodge. I just knew it.
Gregmal Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, John Hjorth said: -And thereby, the basis for the future. It's not more complicated than that. Well John, it’s fairly simple. Like the same reason we read 10k’s…the past is how we got here. So when we get the cowardly cocksucker stuff, the “whataboutism” retorts, and the “what does what happened previously matter to this” cop-outs….thats why. Folks being cowards and logically inconsistent is what leads us here, and will lead us forward.
LC Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, cubsfan said: The whole world knows Ashley Babbitt For someone the whole world knows I'd imagine you could spell her name correctly. Take a look in the mirror, you are on the wrong side of this and it's glaringly obvious to just about every reader of this thread.
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, cubsfan said: The whole world knows Ashley Babbitt, the Trump supporter that climbed through a broken window in the US Capitol on Jan 6th. She attempting to climb through the window and shot dead by Pelosi's Capitol Police. She was 5' 2" and unarmed. The shooting was justified by the Biden DOJ. Congratulations on your cowardly dodge. I just knew it. "The whole world knows Ashli Babbitt," I know some in the US think the whole world revolves around the US but it seems there is a little bit of hyperbole in your statement. It's like someone saying the US doesn't need Canada. How about I ask you a few Canadian questions eh? So Ms Babbitt was breaking into the Capitol Building through a window and was shot. We had a guy break into our Parlement Building a few years and he was dispatched similarly. Our shooter was a hero. What's your point?
TwoCitiesCapital Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) Ashli Babbitt - storms the capitol with an angry mob that beat the shit out of cops - was breaking her way through a barricade with an armed office on the other side who provided multiple verbal warnings. Republican response: "This is travesty a patriot died today" An armed man who never reaches for his gun, but uses his body to shield a woman from being maced for recording armed/masked domestic terrorists is being pinned down by 3/4 officers while another unholstered his gun, points it, and shoots. Republican response: "he was an assassin trying to kill Federal agents why would ever have a gun anywhere near a federal agent?!?!" Edited January 25 by TwoCitiesCapital
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, LC said: For someone the whole world knows I'd imagine you could spell her name correctly. Take a look in the mirror, you are on the wrong side of this and it's glaringly obvious to just about every reader of this thread. I misspelled her name - what a joke you are @LC Not one of you libtards will ever give a justification for the Law Enforcement shooting of this unarmed Trump supporter. Furthermore, you will NOT express any outrage at all. Certainly not @cwericb - our new Taco. He talks big, but disappears when faced with the truth.
LC Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, SharperDingaan said: Very similar terms to the hiring of mercenaries to execute regime change in a third world nation; the sign-off bonus is whatever you can take with you in the impending chaos. So friends in low places tell me . Gotta love a good ole' protection racket, ya know?
Marco Van Basten Posted January 25 Posted January 25 43 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Protests have been the starting point for just about every single significant political change in history. Saying dont protest is effectively saying just do what the government wants you to do. He was legally carrying the gun and never took it out himself. He was following the law. Are you saying we need more gun control? No, I am not. What I am saying is that just as you don't cross the street on a red light, you should follow common sense. Getting into a fight with police is never a good idea. Bringing a gun to a protest is never a good idea. Getting into a fight with police when armed is on par with crossing the highway across eight lanes of traffic.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, cwericb said: "The whole world knows Ashli Babbitt," I know some in the US think the whole world revolves around the US but it seems there is a little bit of hyperbole in your statement. It's like someone saying the US doesn't need Canada. How about I ask you a few Canadian questions eh? So Ms Babbitt was breaking into the Capitol Building through a window and was shot. We had a guy break into our Parlement Building a few years and he was dispatched similarly. Our shooter was a hero. What's your point? Now you are doing better - so in your book - it's perfectly ok to shoot an unarmed protestor and kill them - correct? I just want to make sure I understand your answer correctly. Was the US Capitol policeman a "hero"?
TwoCitiesCapital Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) " These are the real patriots." - "you can tell this man was a terrorist by the way he's on his hands and knees with his back turned and 4 government officials holding him down while the 5th shoots him in the back" - Edited January 25 by TwoCitiesCapital
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I misspelled her name - what a joke you are @LC Not one of you libtards will ever give a justification for the Law Enforcement shooting of this unarmed Trump supporter. Furthermore, you will NOT express any outrage at all. Certainly not @cwericb - our new Taco. He talks big, but disappears when faced with the truth. Talking about your spelling, you keep spelling the word "liberal" wrong. It is Liberal, not libtard. Just trying to help. And how can also FYI, TACO stands for Trump Always Chickens Out. Not sure how that applies to me. Methinks Cubs you are starting to lose it. Get some rest dude, get some rest.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, cwericb said: Talking about your spelling, you keep spelling the word "liberal" wrong. It is Liberal, not libtard. Just trying to help. And how can also FYI, TACO stands for Trump Always Chickens Out. Not sure how that applies to me. Methinks Cubs you are starting to lose it. Get some rest dude, get some rest. You take the coward's way out when faced with the truth. You dodge it. You avoid it. You have no interest in it. You earned the CoBF TACO label. You are still dodging the question. You are so predicable. Typical libtard.
DooDiligence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 59 minutes ago, Marco Van Basten said: I think there are three lessons that we should all take away and impart to our kids and for some grandkids: Don't go to protests. If you do, don't confront the police. If you do go to a protest, don't bring weapons. LOL
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 10 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Now you are doing better - so in your book - it's perfectly ok to shoot an unarmed protestor and kill them - correct? I just want to make sure I understand your answer correctly. Was the US Capitol policeman a "hero"? Well I guess if you are leading a mob breaking into the Capitol Buillding, then it would be like breaking into sombody's house, don't blame the shooter.
cubsfan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, TwoCitiesCapital said: Ashli Babbitt - storms the capitol with an angry mob that beat the shit out of cops - was breaking her way through a barricade with an armed office on the other side who provided multiple verbal warnings. Republican response: "This is travesty a patriot died today" This is perfect! So the shooting of Ashli Babbitt is NO big deal. She climbed through a window, defenseless - and shot point blank dead. Don't make it so easy for me @TwoCitiesCapital
TwoCitiesCapital Posted January 25 Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, DooDiligence said: LOL Different rules when you're shooting brown folks
cwericb Posted January 25 Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, cubsfan said: You take the coward's way out when faced with the truth. You dodge it. You avoid it. You have no interest in it. You earned the CoBF TACO label. You are still dodging the question. You are so predicable. Typical libtard. Just answered the question and still concerned about how you confuse me with Donald Trump??
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