Political Posts

[Marco Van Basten]

3 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

I am surprised there is no discussion on the bondi beach attack. A Muslim hero potentially saved countless additional jews from being massacred by a father and son terrorist team. Israeli media right away blamed Iran / Hezbollah and obviously right away Muslims. SMH. 
 

Rumours are the father son team were previous IDF soldier. Is this a false flag attack? This posses some interesting thought provoking questions. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/bondi-beach-attack-9.7015801

So, rumors according to whom?  Iranian MPs made this claim.    Looks like ourkid8 is working for the mullahs of Teheran..

[Sweet]

9 hours ago, ourkid8 said:

I am surprised there is no discussion on the bondi beach attack. A Muslim hero potentially saved countless additional jews from being massacred by a father and son terrorist team. Israeli media right away blamed Iran / Hezbollah and obviously right away Muslims. SMH. 
 

Rumours are the father son team were previous IDF soldier. Is this a false flag attack? This posses some interesting thought provoking questions. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/bondi-beach-attack-9.7015801

Idiotic post.

 

Edited December 16, 2025 by Sweet

[73 Reds]

3 hours ago, Sweet said:

Idiotic post.

 

The post would have to drastically improve to be classified as "idiotic".

[ourkid8]

10 hours ago, Mephistopheles said:

Islam is poisonous idealogy. Why it’s treated as a moral equivalent to other religions is beyond me..

Islam is one of the most peaceful religions which values human life. Of course there are some bad seeds especially when you have a population over 1B. What facts do you have? 

[changegonnacome]

46 minutes ago, ourkid8 said:

Islam is one of the most peaceful religions which values human life. Of course there are some bad seeds especially when you have a population over 1B. What facts do you have? 

 

Thought experiment stolen from Sam Harris to help you understand what I think people instinctively understand....what would be the consequences of a musical called "The Book of Muhammad" ala Book of Mormon lampooning Islam running in a theatre in Midtown Manhattan? You know the answer....the Theatre would require round the clock police barricade, bomb threats would ensure, the cast, writers would be under fatwa and their lives would be in genuine in danger etc. etc. 

 

1B is a lot of people.....there are alot of Christians out there too.....and there would be no concern running a show called the Book of Jesus....could something violent happen at the Book of Jesus sure....but if you ran the "The Book of Muhammad" I'm almost certain something violent and crazy would happen around it.

 

So I think what people realize is that Islam at its extremes has violent radical element that marks it out as unusual....now Christianity has it too......what makes Islam unusual (potentially because of its relative youth) is just the numbers of its followers globally who seem to live out at that extreme end of the radicalized spectrum.

 

 

Edited December 16, 2025 by changegonnacome

[cwericb]

Guys I learned a long, long time ago that arguing religion with people of different faiths is like arguing politics with someone like Cubs. They have their own religion and are convinced that their religion is the only one that is right and you are not going to change that. 

 

Discussing religion here, under the "Political" heading is simply a waste of time and space and is just one more reason to get pissed off at other board members. Perhaps we should move on. At least political parties and presidents reset every few years rather than millenniums.  

[Mephistopheles]

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

Islam is one of the most peaceful religions which values human life. Of course there are some bad seeds especially when you have a population over 1B. What facts do you have? 

 

It's a religion of conquest, not of peace. Most Muslims are fine people sure, but the religion itself is pretty toxic. I say this as an agnostic/atheist who thinks all religions are stupid and a waste. But this one takes the cake in being insane.

[Gregmal]

9 minutes ago, Mephistopheles said:

 

I say this as an agnostic/atheist who thinks all religions are stupid and a waste. But this one takes the cake in being insane.

Your mouth to Gods ears! Amen

Edited December 16, 2025 by Gregmal

[Sweet]

2 hours ago, 73 Reds said:

The post would have to drastically improve to be classified as "idiotic".

lol!

 

1 hour ago, ourkid8 said:

Islam is one of the most peaceful religions which values human life. Of course there are some bad seeds especially when you have a population over 1B. What facts do you have? 

I don’t believe Islam should be in the West.

[Parsad]

On 12/15/2025 at 2:21 PM, cubsfan said:

 

No - you missed the ENTIRE point. 

 

The gang says President Trump has no decorum and is reprehensible.

 

But when POTUS Obama brags about killing men, women and children - total silence - and absolutely no acknowledgement of what an awful human being would say such a thing.

 

 

 

When did Obama brag about any killings?  Cheers!

[Parsad]

9 hours ago, changegonnacome said:

 

Thought experiment stolen from Sam Harris to help you understand what I think people instinctively understand....what would be the consequences of a musical called "The Book of Muhammad" ala Book of Mormon lampooning Islam running in a theatre in Midtown Manhattan? You know the answer....the Theatre would require round the clock police barricade, bomb threats would ensure, the cast, writers would be under fatwa and their lives would be in genuine in danger etc. etc. 

 

1B is a lot of people.....there are alot of Christians out there too.....and there would be no concern running a show called the Book of Jesus....could something violent happen at the Book of Jesus sure....but if you ran the "The Book of Muhammad" I'm almost certain something violent and crazy would happen around it.

 

So I think what people realize is that Islam at its extremes has violent radical element that marks it out as unusual....now Christianity has it too......what makes Islam unusual (potentially because of its relative youth) is just the numbers of its followers globally who seem to live out at that extreme end of the radicalized spectrum.

 

 

 

The same thing happened when Martin Scorsese's "The Last Temptation of Christ" hit theatres 30 years ago!  Christians were protesting theatres and I remember a bomb scare at one of the theatres in Vancouver.  There are fanatics in any religion...not just Islam!  

 

That being said, The Last Temptation of Christ was an extraordinarily good movie about Jesus, Mary Magdalene, and what it was like back then!  More accurate than much of the other shite movies out there about Jesus.  Cheers!

[Parsad]

8 hours ago, cwericb said:

Guys I learned a long, long time ago that arguing religion with people of different faiths is like arguing politics with someone like Cubs. They have their own religion and are convinced that their religion is the only one that is right and you are not going to change that. 

 

Discussing religion here, under the "Political" heading is simply a waste of time and space and is just one more reason to get pissed off at other board members. Perhaps we should move on. At least political parties and presidents reset every few years rather than millenniums.  

 

Amen!  Ameen! Amin!  Shanti!    Cheers!

[Red Lion]

9 hours ago, cwericb said:

Discussing religion here, under the "Political" heading is simply a waste of time and space and is just one more reason to get pissed off at other board members. Perhaps we should move on. At least political parties and presidents reset every few years rather than millenniums.

 

Kind of goes hand in hand with politics though, which is also probably a waste of time and an extra reason to get pissed off. 

 

I love reading this thread, and I do think it helps me understand opposing viewpoints. 

 

I think that for politics and religion, it would be helpful for people to look more for their similarities than differences. It's funny how much common ground the different major world religions have. I think there's a lot of common ground between the opposing political viewpoints as well. The leaders in politics and religion have a vested interest in keeping the followers fighting over the differences. 

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, Parsad said:

 

When did Obama brag about any killings?  Cheers!

 

2010 - White House Correspondents Dinner

2011 -  White House aides

 

Obama just couldn't help himself with his big-shot bro tough talk - cause it's so funny.

 

https://www.cfr.org/blog/obamas-final-drone-strike-data

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/dec/28/us-drone-attacks-no-laughing-matter#:~:text=matter%2C Mr Obama-,This article is more than 14 years old,the Bush administration in 2004.

 

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/05/obam-m06.html

 

 

 

 

 

[Lazarus]

On 12/15/2025 at 9:49 PM, Mephistopheles said:

Islam is poisonous idealogy. Why it’s treated as a moral equivalent to other religions is beyond me..

All Abrahamic religions are a scourge on society

[73 Reds]

12 hours ago, cubsfan said:

 

2010 - White House Correspondents Dinner

2011 -  White House aides

 

Obama just couldn't help himself with his big-shot bro tough talk - cause it's so funny.

 

https://www.cfr.org/blog/obamas-final-drone-strike-data

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/dec/28/us-drone-attacks-no-laughing-matter#:~:text=matter%2C Mr Obama-,This article is more than 14 years old,the Bush administration in 2004.

 

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/05/obam-m06.html

 

 

 

 

 

This highlights one of the more frustrating aspects of discussing politics; even intelligent, informed people tend to mentally block out or ignore the same issues with candidates they support that they complain about with candidates they don't.  It is hard to have a constructive conversation with anyone who can't get past the person on the way to the policies that matter.  

[dealraker]

30 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

This highlights one of the more frustrating aspects of discussing politics; even intelligent, informed people tend to mentally block out or ignore the same issues with candidates they support that they complain about with candidates they don't.  It is hard to have a constructive conversation with anyone who can't get past the person on the way to the policies that matter.  

Hmm...I'd go a bit different path and say that a more logical constructive conversation would be towards the power that an intermittent, unpredictable, and illogical force like Donnie J can have on those with a tendency for addiction...read Cubs.  What surprises me is that guys like Reds and Greg, so accurate in their "call-outs" with so many...

 

...go dead silent on Donnie J!

 

This, to me, shows the power of such forces.  Robert Cialdini's book INFLUENCE...oh yeah!   

 

Trump and Saylor!  Addict the world to the most productive mind-set in history!  Crypto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Having fun this a.m.

[73 Reds]

3 minutes ago, dealraker said:

Hmm...I'd go a bit different path and say that a more logical constructive conversation would be towards the power that an intermittent, unpredictable, and illogical force like Donnie J can have on those with a tendency for addiction...read Cubs.  What surprises me is that guys like Reds and Greg, so accurate in their "call-outs" with so many...

 

...go dead silent on Donnie J!

 

This, to me, shows the power of such forces.  Robert Cialdini's book INFLUENCE...oh yeah!   

 

Trump and Saylor!  Addict the world to the most productive mind-set in history!  Crypto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Having fun this a.m.

That's OK.  But you help make the point.  Inconsistent or selective criticism utttered by those with an agenda are hardly worth a response.  

[dealraker]

4 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

That's OK.  But you help make the point.  Inconsistent or selective criticism utttered by those with an agenda are hardly worth a response.  

An agenda that is so obvious and (unlike Trump) so consistent that it makes all posts redundant?  Hmm...wonder who posts such?

 

Only Trump can get neighbors and fellow posters to assault one another on his behalf.  With the same results, same outcome, some feel endlessly empowered while others feel great loss.  Which is it?  

[73 Reds]

1 minute ago, dealraker said:

An agenda that is so obvious and (unlike Trump) so consistent that it makes all posts redundant?  Hmm...wonder who posts such?

 

Only Trump can get neighbors and fellow posters to assault one another on his behalf.  With the same results, same outcome, some feel endlessly empowered while others feel great loss.  Which is it?  

This!  Even Trump's most ardent supporters here at least share some balance and perspective.  You may not see it that way but that demonstrates the very issue.

[dealraker]

3 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

This!  Even Trump's most ardent supporters here at least share some balance and perspective.  You may not see it that way but that demonstrates the very issue.

That must be a Trumpanion definition of "balance!"

[Xerxes]

On 12/15/2025 at 6:38 PM, ourkid8 said:

I am surprised there is no discussion on the bondi beach attack. A Muslim hero potentially saved countless additional jews from being massacred by a father and son terrorist team. Israeli media right away blamed Iran / Hezbollah and obviously right away Muslims. SMH. 
 

Rumours are the father son team were previous IDF soldier. Is this a false flag attack? This posses some interesting thought provoking questions. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/bondi-beach-attack-9.7015801

 

There are hate crime against Jews because there are hate crimes. Sadly nothing new here.
 

This does not have anything remotely to do with IDF. if you read anything that suggests otherwise, it is probably nonsense and best ignored. Or rather change your source of news. 
 

As far as the Ahmad doing what he did, yeap, it must be hard for brainwashed Europeans and Americans to digest that.
 

A Syrian hero. Noppppe. Goes against the “narrative”. 

Enter “Edward Crabtree”. A fake propped name that made the heroism more digestible. 

 

[73 Reds]

1 minute ago, dealraker said:

That must be a Trumpanion definition of "balance!"

Well, when you only complain about one side and not the other, that's not balance.  Which is why such people are worth ignoring.

[cubsfan]

6 minutes ago, Xerxes said:

As far as the Ahmad doing what he did, yeap, it must be hard for brainwashed Europeans and Americans to digest that.

 

I can understand this comment, but I think the reaction to this hero is overwhelming opposite.

That he is a Muslim and standing up against radical Islam is a wonderful act of bravery. 

[adesigar]

34 minutes ago, dealraker said:

That must be a Trumpanion definition of "balance!"

You see it everyday on Faux news. Fair and Balanced. 
 

Edit : Actually faux news is more fair and balanced than the cultists here. 

Edited December 17, 2025 by adesigar