Political Posts

[cubsfan]

9 minutes ago, LC said:

 

Real easy way to reduce almost all violent crime is just to imprison everyone. What, you don't support that? Well you must not really want to reduce violent crime. 

 

Fear not @LC  Trump is cleaning Tren de Aragua out of Colorado - you'll be safe too!

[Parsad]

19 minutes ago, 73 Reds said:

Congratulations.  I have nearly equal ties to Canada but never once felt the need or desire to comment on Canada's former leader.

 

Because we're not doing such radical things like ignoring the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.  Cheers!

[Gregmal]

24 minutes ago, LC said:

 

Real easy way to reduce almost all violent crime is just to imprison everyone. What, you don't support that? Well you must not really want to reduce violent crime. 

 

C'mon.

You do realize that there are huge portions of the population whom have never committed a violent crime(like in a real truthful sense, not just “been convicted of”).

[Parsad]

More illness, more death, more long-term costs...another great policy move by Florida!  Cheers!

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/health/florida-vaccine-mandates

[cubsfan]

1 minute ago, Parsad said:

More illness, more death, more long-term costs...another great policy move by Florida!  Cheers!

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/health/florida-vaccine-mandates

 

Yeah, I think the kids might want to "opt out"--- Just so they don't die....

 

Naomi Wolf reveals a bombshell: Pfizer knew of 1,225 deaths within just three months of vaccine rollout. They also knew by April 2021 that the shot was damaging minors' hearts, per warnings from Israel and pediatric experts.

 

 

Instead of warning the public, internal emails show a full freak-out at the highest levels. The chain reached 15 White House officials and even a template for POTUS.
 

 

Their response? A 17-page redacted script on how to lie to the American people. The plan: downplay it as "mild, transient, and rare" myocarditis.
 

 

 

 

[dwy000]

44 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Well, that’s because even the most common sense subjects, like fixing crime, these pissants just want to “fight Trump”. Like for all the total bs we get about the rationale, you can reliably see that no matter what Trump tries to do, regardless of how common sense it is, they’ll be against it. The excuses are always there, whether it be “we don’t like the process” or “the wrong way” or “this is too much”….who TF cares? 

Because when he ignores the law and the constitution, even if you agree with the concept he manages to fuck it up so badly that we are worse off instead of better.

 

NOBODY is against improving government efficiency.  I wanted this one badly! But then doing it through all the DOGE crap he not only didn't improve efficiency but with the disruption has made it worse. 

 

A more friendly business environment?  Yes please!!!  And then he rolls out the most convoluted and incompetent tariff plan imaginable. Not to mention that its illegal.

 

Reduce the deficit?  Damn straight!!  Oh, but now its massively larger even with tariff revenue.

 

Release the Epstein files?  Nail those pedophiles, whoever they are!  Oh, but now he chooses tk threaten his own party members to do anything to prevent their release. 

 

Fight crime?  No, let's do performative theater instead of anything long term and meaningful.

 

Even if you support every policy, the complete and utter incompetence is just astounding.

Edited September 4, 2025 by dwy000

[cwericb]

1 hour ago, 73 Reds said:

The question is WHY you feel so compelled to comment?  Is it really that important to you or does it affect you in any way?  To me it looks like the TDS thing that plagues so many.

 

I don't know if this is ignorance or arrogance. In the words of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau: "Living next to you [The USA] is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt." 

Edited September 4, 2025 by cwericb

[Gregmal]

Or how about this one…in an investment community where people spend copious amounts of time scheming in the name of “avoiding taxes”, worshiping those whom efficiently duck them, even pay money to set up vehicles to long term exploit them….we get, drumroll, TAX CUTS! and they roll around bellyaching about these evil “deficit increasing tax cuts for the rich”. LMFAO

[cwericb]

27 minutes ago, Parsad said:

More illness, more death, more long-term costs...another great policy move by Florida!  Cheers!

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/health/florida-vaccine-mandates

 

Sounds like a great move to attract those wealthy retirees.

[dwy000]

1 minute ago, Gregmal said:

Or how about this one…in an investment community where people spend copious amounts of time scheming in the name of “avoiding taxes”, worshiping those whom efficiently duck them, even pay money to set up vehicles to long term exploit them….we get, drumroll, TAX CUTS! and they roll around bellyaching about these evil “deficit increasing tax cuts for the rich”. LMFAO

Stop making things up. Show me one single post I've ever done bellyaching about "deficit increasing tax cuts for the rich".  I'm bellyaching about a President, representing a party that used to promote fiscal prudence, implementing the stupidest tariff policy in history and increasing a deficit he was supposed to reduce. 

[Gregmal]

2 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Stop making things up. Show me one single post I've ever done bellyaching about "deficit increasing tax cuts for the rich".  I'm bellyaching about a President, representing a party that used to promote fiscal prudence, implementing the stupidest tariff policy in history and increasing a deficit he was supposed to reduce. 

There’s others besides just you. There’s been plenty of whining about “tax cuts”….which again, is a bit of a head scratcher 

[LC]

48 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

You do realize that there are huge portions of the population whom have never committed a violent crime(like in a real truthful sense, not just “been convicted of”).

And we'll make sure they never do, under a police state! Anyways I'm just taking your argument to extremes, because essentially the ends don't always justify the means.

 

And on the tax point - half the issue is "the rules for thee not for me" angle. The Waltons, Musks, Gates families, etc. will be passing down more wealth in a tax advantaged manner, versus what everyone on this forum will collectively owe to the IRS, ever. That is the real issue and is why nobody should feel bad trying to minimize their own income.

Edited September 4, 2025 by LC

[Red Lion]

1 hour ago, LC said:

 

There have been decades of study on this topic, a famous one done by Harvard called the opportunity atlas. 

 

Or you could just ask Gemini:

 

 

My previous google search also referenced studies saying 80-90% of millionaires are self made. I think it’s even higher among billionaires. But I think I misunderstood your post since I thought you were implying the rich somehow inherited their wealth, and it seems like you’re saying the bottom 10% are more likely to stay poor. Makes sense, and I’ll defer to the Harvard study since I certainly don’t have any knowledge about this. 
 

Also most of my anecdotal evidence is from the west coast, which apparently offers more opportunity for poor kids. 

Edited September 4, 2025 by Red Lion

[Parsad]

46 minutes ago, cubsfan said:

 

Yeah, I think the kids might want to "opt out"--- Just so they don't die....

 

Naomi Wolf reveals a bombshell: Pfizer knew of 1,225 deaths within just three months of vaccine rollout. They also knew by April 2021 that the shot was damaging minors' hearts, per warnings from Israel and pediatric experts.

 

 

Instead of warning the public, internal emails show a full freak-out at the highest levels. The chain reached 15 White House officials and even a template for POTUS.
 

 

Their response? A 17-page redacted script on how to lie to the American people. The plan: downplay it as "mild, transient, and rare" myocarditis.
 

 

 

 

 

ALL vaccines!  Not just Covid or mRNA vaccines.  Only you would be happy about these diseases making a wide-spread comeback:

 

• Measles...check!
• Rubella...check!
• Polio...check!
• Mumps...check!
• Diphtheria...check!
• Chickenpox...check!
• Tetanus...check!
• Pertussis...check!
• Hep A...check!
• Hep B...check!
• Pneumonia...check!
• Meningitis...check!
• Rotavirus...check!
• And of course...influenza...check!

 

What's worked for decades and decades, saved millions and millions of lives, saved enormous hospitalization costs...let's just chuck it all because we just don't trust science anymore! 

 

Even Trump secretly got his mRNA Covid vaccines while touting bleach, Ivermectin and the follies of vaccines!  Cheers!

[Gregmal]

23 minutes ago, LC said:

And on the tax point - half the issue is "the rules for thee not for me" angle. The Waltons, Musks, Gates families, etc. will be passing down more wealth in a tax advantaged manner, versus what everyone on this forum will collectively owe to the IRS, ever. That is the real issue and is why nobody should feel bad trying to minimize their own income.

Edited 13 minutes ago by LC

Well that’s another issue in and of itself. Especially in the investing world where you get these faux philanthropist wannabes whom think cuz they flick a few bucks at the charitable donations box on the tax return that they too like Buffett and Gates need to embrace these outlandish liberal utopia ideas. Not realizing the Buffett, Gates, etc clans are largely full of shit on their “pay more taxes” mantra. I mean the most obvious example is “hey 90-99% of your net worth is unrealized capital gains, how about selling some stock and donating rather than the whole gift stock to a preferred foundation” scheme….

Edited September 4, 2025 by Gregmal

[cubsfan]

19 minutes ago, Parsad said:

 

ALL vaccines!  Not just Covid or mRNA vaccines.  Only you would be happy about these diseases making a wide-spread comeback:

 

• Measles...check!
• Rubella...check!
• Polio...check!
• Mumps...check!
• Diphtheria...check!
• Chickenpox...check!
• Tetanus...check!
• Pertussis...check!
• Hep A...check!
• Hep B...check!
• Pneumonia...check!
• Meningitis...check!
• Rotavirus...check!
• And of course...influenza...check!

 

What's worked for decades and decades, saved millions and millions of lives, saved enormous hospitalization costs...let's just chuck it all because we just don't trust science anymore! 

 

Even Trump secretly got his mRNA Covid vaccines while touting bleach, Ivermectin and the follies of vaccines!  Cheers!

 

Thanks  for the clarification, my mistake.

 

The COVID ones are the problem for the kids. Everyone should be aware of those risks and deaths - but they buried the risks from the public. 
 

 

[LC]

38 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

I mean the most obvious example is “hey 90-99% of your net worth is unrealized capital gains, how about selling some stock and donating rather than the whole gift stock to a preferred foundation” scheme….

 

Haha well yes, point taken. When it comes to their net worth and inheritance those guys are just as political (hypocritical) as their counterparts on the right.

[whiskybravo]

7 hours ago, Buckeye said:

You're right Whisky, the manufacturing sector is growing like gangbusters!  I would've responded sooner but I've been in interviews with a few different manufacturers.  Apparently they can't hire fast enough to meet the demand they are seeing from this economy!  PS, I hear the BLS is looking for some extra help, if you're interested in a side gig

You jumped in with both feet without appreciating the overall context.  Over the past three years manufacturing in the West (US, Europe, Canada, UK) has been contracting save a quarter here or there.  Between flawed trade and energy policies, the West is facing serious challenges that the current leadership is arguably not properly addressing and that included the prior U.S. administration.

 

Like Trump or not, and I can see that you’re emotional about it, he recognizes the issue and is seeking to bring back important areas of manufacturing.  If, a big if, that is successful it will take time.

 

I’m just trying to stay grounded and objective.  Can you show me that you’re interested in a constructive conversation?

Edited September 4, 2025 by whiskybravo

[thepupil]

10 hours ago, Gregmal said:

Well that’s another issue in and of itself. Especially in the investing world where you get these faux philanthropist wannabes whom think cuz they flick a few bucks at the charitable donations box on the tax return that they too like Buffett and Gates need to embrace these outlandish liberal utopia ideas. Not realizing the Buffett, Gates, etc clans are largely full of shit on their “pay more taxes” mantra. I mean the most obvious example is “hey 90-99% of your net worth is unrealized capital gains, how about selling some stock and donating rather than the whole gift stock to a preferred foundation” scheme….

confused. What is the scheme? 
 

they donate their assets to non profits. Those non profits enact water the mission is (less overhead). 
 

How is donating a scheme? You still lose 100% of the money. I mean you can put your family in the board or exercise influence/power, but the money is still gone. 

[Sweet]

13 hours ago, LC said:

 

There have been decades of study on this topic, a famous one done by Harvard called the opportunity atlas. 

 

Or you could just ask Gemini:

 

 

Zip code is a function of behaviour and culture.  Parents that stay together have more money and can live in these better areas. Asian parents stay together more often than others and their kids do better than others - no surprise.  Blacks families are the worse by far with something like 60% of kids living in single parent households.  Outcomes follow behaviour.

 

I’m all for giving people who are disadvantaged help, through scholarships, mentor programmes etc.  But this should be done regardless of race and based on need alone.  I disagree with anyone being given jobs preferentially or having to balance the makeup of a board for any reason.

 

So no, stopping DEI is not cutting of help.  And meritocracy isn’t zip code lottery because it really doesn’t give any credit to what really matters which is behavior of families and the behaviour of the kids of that family.  As others have noted, most millionaires are self-made.

 

Edited September 4, 2025 by Sweet

[73 Reds]

12 hours ago, Parsad said:

 

Because we're not doing such radical things like ignoring the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.  Cheers!

Well, if someone appoints you to the US Supreme Court you get to make that call.  Otherwise facts will win out over conjecture.

[73 Reds]

11 hours ago, cwericb said:

 

I don't know if this is ignorance or arrogance. In the words of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau: "Living next to you [The USA] is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt." 

Perhaps you'd prefer to sleep next to a different elephant? 

[Gregmal]

17 minutes ago, thepupil said:

confused. What is the scheme? 
 

they donate their assets to non profits. Those non profits enact water the mission is (less overhead). 
 

How is donating a scheme? You still lose 100% of the money. I mean you can put your family in the board or exercise influence/power, but the money is still gone. 

Nothing wrong with it. Just pointing out how what they say and what they do are not consistent either if we want to get super intense with our granularity and focus.
 

With Trump for instance, we have folks who’s marbles disappear getting hung up on the exactness of say a shot from the hip date or percentage he’s associated with objectives of his. But then you have these mega rich idols of folks whom regularly preach about certain ideology, in this instance about how the wealthy can pay more, but do everything in their power to avoid writing checks to Uncle Sam. 
 

The broader point was simply how crazy it was that people(especially the types that care about investing) are opposed to tax cuts. Let alone this kind of idiotic NYT inspired idea that the tax cuts are only for “the billionaires”. 

[thepupil]

9 minutes ago, Gregmal said:

Nothing wrong with it. Just pointing out how what they say and what they do are not consistent either if we want to get super intense with our granularity and focus.
 

With Trump for instance, we have folks who’s marbles disappear getting hung up on the exactness of say a shot from the hip date or percentage he’s associated with objectives of his. But then you have these mega rich idols of folks whom regularly preach about certain ideology, in this instance about how the wealthy can pay more, but do everything in their power to avoid writing checks to Uncle Sam. 
 

The broader point was simply how crazy it was that people(especially the types that care about investing) are opposed to tax cuts. Let alone this kind of idiotic NYT inspired idea that the tax cuts are only for “the billionaires”. 

 
Why must all investors desire tax cuts? 
 

I’d prefer certain taxes be raised and certain taxes go away. It is not some universal rule that someone interested in investing wants all taxes to go away. 

taxes play a big role in societal stability and infrastructure necessary to invest with confidence. 
 

currency stability, regulation, various legal protection. 
 

some kind of Randian wet dream of a libertarian society doesn’t necessarily favor the small time outside passive minority investor. 
 

and any number multiplied by zero is zero. You need societal stability to invest for the long term.

 

if current taxes don’t provide for all that, then…they may need to be raised (or spending reduced) or a combo thereof. 

Edited September 4, 2025 by thepupil

[Gregmal]

1 minute ago, thepupil said:

 
Why must all investors desire tax cuts? 
 

I’d prefer certain taxes be raised and certain taxes go away. It is not some universal rule that someone interested in investing wants all taxes to go away. 

taxes play a big role in societal stability and infrastructure necessary to invest with confidence. 
 

currency stability, regulation, various legal protection. 
 

some kind of Randian wet dream of a libertarian society doesn’t necessarily favor the small time outside passive minority investor. 
 

and any number multiplied by zero is zero. You need societal stability to invest for the long term. 

Isn’t seeking to avoid taxes counter productive to the ideological notion of “paying one’s fair share”? Especially when using to one’s advantage, loopholes or parts of the tax code that are largely only applicable to…what’s the word they use?…oh…”privileged” individuals?