cubsfan Posted August 26, 2025 Posted August 26, 2025 7 minutes ago, dwy000 said: She hasn't been charged with a crime. You of course follow whatever Trump tells you to, so you claim guilt without there even being a charge. Thats cult behavior. Trump on the other hand was found guilty of mortgage fraud. What a clown. Lisa Cook is screwed, but you'll defend her. So funny, someone in charge of setting rates, manipulates the rates for her own benefit, while the peons suck it up. That's like the priest that sexually abuses the alter boy. Good to hear you are ok with that @dwy000 - why am I not surprised!
Red Lion Posted August 26, 2025 Posted August 26, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, LC said: Who is going to run for the Republicans? The last I checked I think the betting markets were putting JD a little over 50%, and trump somewhere close to 10% I have no idea though. I’m certain JD Vance will try. If maga is still running the gop in 2 years I imagine it’s going to be whoever gets anointed by trump. Edited August 26, 2025 by Red Lion
dwy000 Posted August 26, 2025 Posted August 26, 2025 4 minutes ago, cubsfan said: What a clown. Lisa Cook is screwed, but you'll defend her. So funny, someone in charge of setting rates, manipulates the rates for her own benefit, while the peons suck it up. That's like the priest that sexually abuses the alter boy. Good to hear you are ok with that @dwy000 - why am I not surprised! I'm not defending her. If she has committed a crime then she deserves what she gets. But she has not been charged with a crime. And as far as I know, America is still innocent until proven guilty. You are presuming her guilt.based on nothing more than Trump saying it. Thats a cult.
cubsfan Posted August 26, 2025 Posted August 26, 2025 4 minutes ago, dwy000 said: I'm not defending her. If she has committed a crime then she deserves what she gets. But she has not been charged with a crime. And as far as I know, America is still innocent until proven guilty. You are presuming her guilt.based on nothing more than Trump saying it. Thats a cult. That's funny - this from the guy that just accused POTUS of mortage fraud when the charges were thrown out, on what was an obvious kangaroo court! Talk about a lunatic!
dwy000 Posted August 26, 2025 Posted August 26, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cubsfan said: That's funny - this from the guy that just accused POTUS of mortage fraud when the charges were thrown out, on what was an obvious kangaroo court! Talk about a lunatic! The charges were not thrown out. The penalty was thrown out as excessive. He is still guilty. You need to stop getting your news from deep right-wing sites and Fox. Edited August 26, 2025 by dwy000
Red Lion Posted August 26, 2025 Posted August 26, 2025 8 hours ago, cwericb said: Unfortunate there isn't a viable third party. I 100% agree this is extremely unfortunate. What I also think is unfortunate is that our non viable third parties have spent the last 20 years running candidates for president. A viable strategy would have been to try to pick off some house seats or maybe a vulnerable senate seat. Could you imagine the difference in this country if the libertarian and Green Party controlled 20-30 house seats and a couple senate seats? I think it would be a huge improvement and force some bipartisan negotiations. But I think the democrats would stand a better chance of effecting change if they had an open primary. Because then they would likely nominate a centrist which I think is what is needed to win the general election. I wish the GOP would do an open primary too for that matter. For the last decade or so both parties have been essentially pushing out anyone willing to work across the aisle. Both parties trying to seize more power while they’re in office while skirting congressional action. And when it does come to congressional action, both parties have been catering to their core rather than addressing issues held by the voters.
cubsfan Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 4 minutes ago, dwy000 said: The charges were not thrown out. The penalty was thrown out as excessive. He is still guilty. You need to stop getting your news from deep right-wing sites and Fox. That's incredibly stupid. Both the judge and DA were lambasted for an obvious political prosecution. The Trump case was never about the law - it was about a DA running for office that targeted someone running for office - all co-ordinated with law fare - to prevent them from running for office. Twist and rewrite the law to get the man in NYC. Unfortunately, now dumbass Letitia James is in big trouble. The Appelate court said: this is a violation of the constitution. No fraud. The government purposely targeted one politician by someone that ran on the platform of "convicting" Trump with no probable cause. 300 pages. $500M fine in order to bankrupt a politician she did not like. She has on camera interviews befoe she was elected to "get Trump", "put him away". What a fucking idiot she is - she sunk herself - it's all in the record - selective targeting of an American citizen in order to get elected. Appelate court said can't target your political enemies with a death sentence of bankruptcies for their companies and families. Letitia James is in big, big trouble.
dwy000 Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 (edited) 29 minutes ago, cubsfan said: That's incredibly stupid. Both the judge and DA were lambasted for an obvious political prosecution. The Trump case was never about the law - it was about a DA running for office that targeted someone running for office - all co-ordinated with law fare - to prevent them from running for office. Twist and rewrite the law to get the man in NYC. Unfortunately, now dumbass Letitia James is in big trouble. The Appelate court said: this is a violation of the constitution. No fraud. The government purposely targeted one politician by someone that ran on the platform of "convicting" Trump with no probable cause. 300 pages. $500M fine in order to bankrupt a politician she did not like. She has on camera interviews befoe she was elected to "get Trump", "put him away". What a fucking idiot she is - she sunk herself - it's all in the record - selective targeting of an American citizen in order to get elected. Appelate court said can't target your political enemies with a death sentence of bankruptcies for their companies and families. Letitia James is in big, big trouble. The appellate court did not say that. They only reversed the penalty not the charges. Hes still guilty of fraud. So for you: Lisa Cook: not guilty. Not even charged with a crime. Your response: she's a fraud and deserves to be thrown out Donald Trump: guilty of fraud. Guilty of sexual assault. Made over $4bn personally from the presidency (according to WSJ) Your response: find me my knee pads. Cult. Edited August 27, 2025 by dwy000
LC Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Red Lion said: The last I checked I think the betting markets were putting JD a little over 50%, and trump somewhere close to 10% I have no idea though. I’m certain JD Vance will try. If maga is still running the gop in 2 years I imagine it’s going to be whoever gets anointed by trump. Point is even if the Dems put up a super progressive rather than a centrist, I can't think of any Republican who that would be a layup for. Gavin Newsome for example would destroy JD Vance in a debate. Hell, a pair of shoes would probably do the same
cubsfan Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 Just now, dwy000 said: The appellate court did not say that. They only reversed the penalty not the charges. Hes still guilty of fraud. So for you: Lisa Cook: not guilty. Not even charged with a crime. Your response: she's a fraud and deserves to be thrown out Donald Trump: guilty of fraud. Guilty of sexual assault. Made over $4bn personally from the presidency (according to WSJ) Your response: find me my knee pads. The Appelate court dismissed an Unconstitutional $500M penalty --- every last dollar of it - as a blatant violation of the 8th Amendment of the Constitution. Targeting an individual for bankruptcy, Lawsuit was politically motivated.
cwericb Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 32 minutes ago, cubsfan said: That's incredibly stupid. Both the judge and DA were lambasted for an obvious political prosecution. The Trump case was never about the law - it was about a DA running for office that targeted someone running for office - all co-ordinated with law fare - to prevent them from running for office. Twist and rewrite the law to get the man in NYC. Unfortunately, now dumbass Letitia James is in big trouble. The Appelate court said: this is a violation of the constitution. No fraud. The government purposely targeted one politician by someone that ran on the platform of "convicting" Trump with no probable cause. 300 pages. $500M fine in order to bankrupt a politician she did not like. She has on camera interviews befoe she was elected to "get Trump", "put him away". What a fucking idiot she is - she sunk herself - it's all in the record - selective targeting of an American citizen in order to get elected. Appelate court said can't target your political enemies with a death sentence of bankruptcies for their companies and families. Letitia James is in big, big trouble. Cubs, what on earth are you talking about? No charges were dropped. There was no 'not guilty' verdict. Trump was found guilty of fraud and still is. Period. He will continue to be so unless and until that judgment is overturned on an appeal. What the man did was to lie and exaggerate the value of his holdings. In turn this allowed him to fraudulently get a better interest rate on his loans. In turn that illegitimately saved him a substantial amount of money and cost his lenders. That is a fraud on his creditors. He is still a convicted fraudster. The only change at this point is that - and on a split decision - the court felt that the fine was excessive and reduced it to zero. However, I believe that this decision is being appealed so he could still face a substantial fine. So you are getting way ahead of yourself. Calm down dude.
cubsfan Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 3 minutes ago, cwericb said: Cubs, what on earth are you talking about? No charges were dropped. There was no 'not guilty' verdict. Trump was found guilty of fraud and still is. Period. He will continue to be so unless and until that judgment is overturned on an appeal. What the man did was to lie and exaggerate the value of his holdings. In turn this allowed him to fraudulently get a better interest rate on his loans. In turn that illegitimately saved him a substantial amount of money and cost his lenders. That is a fraud on his creditors. He is still a convicted fraudster. The only change at this point is that - and on a split decision - the court felt that the fine was excessive and reduced it to zero. However, I believe that this decision is being appealed so he could still face a substantial fine. So you are getting way ahead of yourself. Calm down dude. The Appelate court was very clear CW - this was a targeted prosecution, selectively used to take out a political opponent - violating the 8th Amendment of the constitution. Take a hike already @cwericb Meanwhile @dwy000's girlfriend, Lisa Cook - has NOT denied the charges at all. All she has done is say they are picking on me. So funny. She doesn't even deny the charges and say I did not do it!!!! The Fed reserve represents the integrity of the banking and mortgage market, yet she scams the system she is sworn to protect! Nice job by Jerome Powell of vetting his candidate.
dwy000 Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 4 minutes ago, cubsfan said: The Appelate court was very clear CW - this was a targeted prosecution, selectively used to take out a political opponent - violating the 8th Amendment of the constitution. Take a hike already @cwericb Meanwhile @dwy000's girlfriend, Lisa Cook - has NOT denied the charges at all. All she has done is say they are picking on me. So funny. She doesn't even deny the charges and say I did not do it!!!! The Fed reserve represents the integrity of the banking and mortgage market, yet she scams the system she is sworn to protect! Nice job by Jerome Powell of vetting his candidate. Facts aren't your strong point. She hasn't denied charges because there haven't been any charges. She hasn't been charged with anything to deny. And yet you have already found her guilty. Why? Because of evidence and facts? Nope. Because Donald Trump was the one making the accusation. Thats it. Thats a cult.
cubsfan Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 4 minutes ago, dwy000 said: Facts aren't your strong point. She hasn't denied charges because there haven't been any charges. She hasn't been charged with anything to deny. And yet you have already found her guilty. Why? Because of evidence and facts? Nope. Because Donald Trump was the one making the accusation. Thats it. Thats a cult. Good point. She has not been charged yet. Bill Pulte, the Director of FHFA, says she specificed 2 homes as her primary residence, within 2 weeks of each other. He should know - since he has records of all the mortgages. It's good to have oversight over Fed governors that jepordize the integrity of the Federal Reserve - don't you think? Why should anyone take a mortgage application seriously, when the Fed governor doesn't!!
dwy000 Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 4 minutes ago, cubsfan said: Good point. She has not been charged yet. Bill Pulte, the Director of FHFA, says she specificed 2 homes as her primary residence, within 2 weeks of each other. He should know - since he has records of all the mortgages. It's good to have oversight over Fed governors that jepordize the integrity of the Federal Reserve - don't you think? Why should anyone take a mortgage application seriously, when the Fed governor doesn't!! Accusations not charges. Its not like she was charged and then found guilty of being fraudulent on her financials or sexually assaulted someone like.....the President of the country.
cubsfan Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 Just now, dwy000 said: Accusations not charges. Its not like she was charged and then found guilty of being fraudulent on her financials or sexually assaulted someone like.....the President of the country. Oh, she will be held accountable, you can count on that. Getting her out before she destroys the Federal Reserve's credibility will be the most important step. Not denying the charges tells you plenty.
cwericb Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, cubsfan said: The Appelate court was very clear CW - this was a targeted prosecution, selectively used to take out a political opponent - violating the 8th Amendment of the constitution. Take a hike already @cwericb Not quite ready to take a hike Cubs. Please read closely........................... "In denying Mr. Trump’s bid to throw out the case, the court kept in place the ruling that he had committed fraud, an ignominious distinction for a sitting American president." Trump is still a convicted fraudster. That is not my opinion, I am not calling him names, it is simply a fact. The only change was in the amount that was awarded - AND THAT - I believe, is being appealed. So before you celebrate ................ A) Trump remains legally guilty of fraud. B) The reduction in the fine awarded is under appeal. Edited August 27, 2025 by cwericb
Spekulatius Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 1 hour ago, cubsfan said: Good point. She has not been charged yet. Bill Pulte, the Director of FHFA, says she specificed 2 homes as her primary residence, within 2 weeks of each other. He should know - since he has records of all the mortgages. It's good to have oversight over Fed governors that jepordize the integrity of the Federal Reserve - don't you think? Why should anyone take a mortgage application seriously, when the Fed governor doesn't!! Bill Pulte also took a $50k PPP loan. Interesting folks talking the moral high ground.
Spekulatius Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 (edited) Looks and sounds like a North a Korea: Edited August 27, 2025 by Spekulatius
cwericb Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 5 minutes ago, Spekulatius said: Looks and sounds like a North a Korea: The cult paying homage to their leader ........................ Reminds one of the old clips of the Nazis meeting with Hitler and kissing up to him.
Charlie Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 A man from South Africa told me: "Trump is lying all the time." Other than that he is a perfect president.
John Hjorth Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 (edited) Diplomatrutube.ru [June 23rd 2025] : "The Decline of the Old Economy": Nabiullina Calls for a Transition to a New Way of Life Elivira Nabiullina, Governor of Bank of Russia, is one the few Russian economists that Putin is listening to, and she is about the only one who dares speak publicly reasonable freely about the Russian Economy. It sounds to me like Russia is up for a cold, cold winther 2025/26, if not something worse. - - - o 0 o - - - Edit : Please note her face expression : She naturally and certainly knows, that her ruler has sent her on a Mission Impossible, to keep the Russian Economy stable, all while her Ruler is actively making decisions constantly and ongoing, that makes her task impossible. If one thinks carefully about why even then try, the only answer I can come up with, is she must consider her self the best to perform damage control, loyal to her country, not necessary to her ruler. - - - o 0 o - - - Edit : A gas station, that is not able to provide gas to the people working there? Isen't that just something? lol! - Maybe this should have been posted in the jokes topic. - Never mind. Edited August 27, 2025 by John Hjorth
Parsad Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 10 hours ago, dwy000 said: She hasn't been charged with a crime. You of course follow whatever Trump tells you to, so you claim guilt without there even being a charge. Thats cult behavior. Trump on the other hand was found guilty of mortgage fraud. 10 hours ago, cubsfan said: What a clown. Lisa Cook is screwed, but you'll defend her. So funny, someone in charge of setting rates, manipulates the rates for her own benefit, while the peons suck it up. That's like the priest that sexually abuses the alter boy. Good to hear you are ok with that @dwy000 - why am I not surprised! Truth is why are either of you defending either of them? If she is guilty...prosecute her and dish out her judgement. Trump was found guilty...he should pay the price too. Not sure why "what is the right thing to do" simply became a partisan punchline! That's what is fucking wrong with America! Cheers!
Parsad Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 8 hours ago, cubsfan said: The Appelate court was very clear CW - this was a targeted prosecution, selectively used to take out a political opponent - violating the 8th Amendment of the constitution. Take a hike already @cwericb Meanwhile @dwy000's girlfriend, Lisa Cook - has NOT denied the charges at all. All she has done is say they are picking on me. So funny. She doesn't even deny the charges and say I did not do it!!!! The Fed reserve represents the integrity of the banking and mortgage market, yet she scams the system she is sworn to protect! Nice job by Jerome Powell of vetting his candidate. Cubs you are wrong here. Trump's conviction was not squashed...only the excessive fine. He's still a convicted fraudster. The prosecution can still appeal the decision to rescind the excessive fine as well. Whether they do or don't, I have no idea. But the conviction was definitely not overturned...only the excessive fine. Cheers!
changegonnacome Posted August 27, 2025 Posted August 27, 2025 10 hours ago, cubsfan said: someone in a position that should be beyond reproach on the Fed. This is no ordinary position - this is like the teacher that has sex with your kids. You are in a trusted position and have a moral obligation to set an example. I can imagine young couples looking for a mortage: " Hey, if she can cheat for a lower rate, I guess it's not a big deal, why can't we" Hypocrisy doesn't suit you @cubsfan. This whole paragraph could just as easily be about the office of President, Trump and his own conviction for mortgage fraud.
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