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[whiskybravo]

On 8/15/2025 at 3:51 PM, Ghost said:

 

Sanjeev,  I am not much of a Trump supporter but in a mere 8 months as you have stated. 

 

Trump secured the border

Trump has been removing illegals.

He past his big beautiful bill, (cut taxes) which as an investor we will reap the rewards for years, because all asset prices should trend up

He has finally gotten his allies to start spending on Defense.

 

I would say on some of the big pieces, Cut Taxes, Military, Secure the border, he has been doing pretty well and I don't even like Trump.   Not even Uncle Warren has a perfect batting average.

 

Since you are Canadian and likely a fan of Mark Carney, besides cutting the carbon tax, what the heck has he done?  

 

Thank you for having introduced calm logic into the discussion.  Sanjeev’s posts I enjoy for their humorous bite.

Edited August 16, 2025 by whiskybravo

[dwy000]

36 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

This post is nonsense.  
 

Ed Koch was a centrist, a fiscally conservative budget hawk.

 

Dinkins was a mainstream liberal Democrat, but not a radical. His political style was moderate, conciliatory, and coalition-driven.

 

We are approaching new, dangerous ground.

Koch and Dinkins and DeBlasio were all strongly left leaning politicians. It swings back and forth. And probably always will.  Bloomberg raised taxes in NY by probably more than any mayor and the city managed thru it. 

[whiskybravo]

17 hours ago, LC said:

A picture is worth a thousand words, in this instance. Gotta love our American troops on their knees in front of Putin and his security contingent, rolling out the red carpet for our war-crime comrades:

Grasping at straws.  State visit requires red carpet, its absence a deliberate slight.  Putin is still on the plane, so no one on knees before him.  Sooo, standard protocol.  

[changegonnacome]

1 hour ago, whiskybravo said:

MUCH smarter approach by Trump.  Trump >>> Mitterrand 

 

But lets be real here.....just because one dumb thing is less dumb than other....doesn't make it not dumb.....either China is a security threat and we shouldn't sell them these chips (export ban)........or it isnt and selling chips is fine (no export ban).......what an astoundingly dumb thing to do to mix Government revenue raising with national security policy questions.

[whiskybravo]

Just now, changegonnacome said:

 

But lets be real here.....just because one dumb thing is less dumb than other....doesn't make it not dumb.....either China is a security threat and we shouldn't sell them these chips (export ban)........or it isnt and selling chips is fine (no export ban).......what an astoundingly dumb thing to do to mix Government revenue raising with national security policy questions.

45 100% takeovers!  Stay on point 

[changegonnacome]

3 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

45 100% takeovers!  Stay on point 

 

Stay in your time machine - talking about Francois Mitterand from the 80's....as some bizarre mechanism by which to somehow make Trump appear less misguided with this bonkers 15% 'piece of the action'

 

Edited August 16, 2025 by changegonnacome

[whiskybravo]

32 minutes ago, changegonnacome said:

 

Stay in your time machine - talking about Francois Mitterand from the 80's....as some bizarre mechanism by which to somehow make Trump appear less misguided with this bonkers 15% 'piece of the action'

 

OP brought up the comparison.   I found nothing close to any large equity stakes.  Didn’t say I agreed with chip deal.  Did you not see I was responding to another post.  Where my crazy pills?!

Edited August 16, 2025 by whiskybravo

[whiskybravo]

13 hours ago, LC said:

 

No I mean fighting for the voting rights for Black americans and fighting against the segregation of Black americans. Or was that a mistake like supporting Fidel?

 

I guess the massive wealth disparity in the US is simply because people don't work hard enough. 

Oh but all those hard working immigrants? Deport em. 

 

 

That tiny dark-brown sliver at the bottom? Those are the 50% of Americans (~175,000,000 people) who are just lazy as hell, apparently. 

Median wealth of bottom 50% in U.S. is $10-15k.  Global median adult $8000.  I’ll admit could be even better.

 

With better life decisions (and I understand life can come at you hard) any given individual here has, much better opportunities than median global dude.

[whiskybravo]

41 minutes ago, dwy000 said:

Koch and Dinkins and DeBlasio were all strongly left leaning politicians. It swings back and forth. And probably always will.  Bloomberg raised taxes in NY by probably more than any mayor and the city managed thru it. 

What I posted was objective and accurate.  Now you bring up the leftist DeBlasio.  Under his watch, living conditions deteriorated.  He would serve as appetizer to Mamdani’s main course, a real serving of shit.

[Spekulatius]

1 hour ago, whiskybravo said:

Between 1981-2 Mitterrand tookover 100% of 45 major companies.

 

No mention of percentage of Intel the government might take, whole thing speculative.  

 

Defense took a 15% position in MP Materials.  

 

No equity stake in US Steel, just veto power over certain strategic decisions.  

 

US gets a 15% revenue share in AI chips Nvidia and AMD sell to China, no equity stake.

 

These American companies still run their businesses, MUCH smarter approach by Trump.  Trump >>> Mitterrand 

Mitterand policies were misguided (and reversed by himself a few years later), but the French government paid a fair price for the business they acquired. The Golden share for US Steel example is a governance issue since it allows effective control without equity participation.

 

We are now in effective government controlled market that looks more like the Chinese market than capitalism. 

Edited August 16, 2025 by Spekulatius

[John Hjorth]

Photo taken before meeting start [please focus on the faces] [source tv2.dk] :

 

 

Photo after meeting end [Ps face 'Heh!' [tiny smile?], Ts face 'Meeh ...' [<- ?]]

 

Edited August 16, 2025 by John Hjorth

[whiskybravo]

19 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

We are now in effective government controlled market that looks more like the Chinese market than capitalism. 

Yikes, I have to think you know that’s a massive exaggeration.

 

 

[whiskybravo]

20 minutes ago, John Hjorth said:

Photo taken before meeting start [please focus on the faces] [source tv2.dk] :

 

 

Photo after meeting end:

 

How many photos have we all thrown away because the camera got us at the wrong moment, not at all conveying the feeling.  Silly

[Gregmal]

27 minutes ago, whiskybravo said:

How many photos have we all thrown away because the camera got us at the wrong moment, not at all conveying the feeling.  Silly

Yup, remember how many times TAFFI crowd got hooked by “only snap Biden in aviators” or “get Elon mid jump” or “Rudi while he s sweating during a speech in August”….they can’t help it! 

[cubsfan]

1 hour ago, whiskybravo said:

Median wealth of bottom 50% in U.S. is $10-15k.  Global median adult $8000.  I’ll admit could be even better.

 

With better life decisions (and I understand life can come at you hard) any given individual here has, much better opportunities than median global dude.

 

Such a good point here. Blacks in America live far better than around the world. 

Advancement of this group the last 50 years has been unprecedented.

[cubsfan]

What I love about this board and the MSM:  Whatever Trump does it will never be good enough. He can stop all the wars in the world - and everyone loses their minds, like he did nothing. It's absolutely hilarious.

 

Keep rooting for failure guys. You'll eventually bring the country down.

[LC]

2 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

Grasping at straws.  State visit requires red carpet, its absence a deliberate slight.  Putin is still on the plane, so no one on knees before him.  Sooo, standard protocol.  

 

It's a metaphor. But - you know who does not have the red carpet rolled out for them?

War criminals who are not invited to your country. 

 

 

2 hours ago, whiskybravo said:

Median wealth of bottom 50% in U.S. is $10-15k.  Global median adult $8000.  I’ll admit could be even better.

 

With better life decisions (and I understand life can come at you hard) any given individual here has, much better opportunities than median global dude.

 

Biggest issue as we all know is healthcare. To your point on opportunity, I haven't seen recent studies but below is from 2012. There are many countries which score higher on both wealth distribution (i.e. equality) and economic mobility. Frankly, we are failing our own people:

 

Edited August 16, 2025 by LC

[cubsfan]

4 minutes ago, LC said:

Frankly, we are failing our own people:

 

MAGA agrees with you 100%.  What do you think America First is all about???

 

We are the 3rd largest country in the world - with BY FAR the largest immigration.

You don't put "America First" when you import millions of illegal immigrants and hundreds of thousands of criminals into your country.

 

MAGA is ALL about taking care of the CITIZENS of our great country FIRST.

 

We have failed our own citizens.

[Spekulatius]

1 hour ago, whiskybravo said:

Yikes, I have to think you know that’s a massive exaggeration.

 

 

At this point yes, but the direction is clear. We got big government now concerning itself with almost any aspect of the economy and trying to get a cut in many cases.

 

What do you call this?

Edited August 16, 2025 by Spekulatius

[Spekulatius]

Alaska meeting summary: Trump went unprepared rolled out red carpet for Putin, floated a few concessions without getting anything in return , foto op, Putin left before lunch.

 

Whant happened to the 50 day ultimatum?

[whiskybravo]

13 minutes ago, LC said:

 

It's a metaphor. But - you know who does not have the red carpet rolled out for them?

War criminals who are not invited to your country. 

 

 

 

Biggest issue as we all know is healthcare. To your point on opportunity, I haven't seen recent studies but below is from 2012. There are many countries which score higher on both wealth distribution (i.e. equality) and economic mobility. Frankly, we are failing our own people:

 

I get what you are saying.  How did we get here.  How do we proceed.  I think some of the smart guys in the present administration are thinking about just that.  I’m always surprised when things work out in a way that I didn’t expect.

[whiskybravo]

6 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

At this point yes, but the direction is clear. We got big government now concerning itself with almost any aspect of the economy and trying to get a cut in many cases.

 

What do you call this?

Dizzying?

[LC]

1 minute ago, whiskybravo said:

I’m always surprised when things work out in a way that I didn’t expect.

 

Yeah I think you raise good questions. I am curious to see how (1) the incentivized deportations and (2) the tariffs funding 1% tax cuts, both shake out. Will the average American be better or worse off? Hard to say. 

[Spekulatius]

15 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

Alaska meeting summary: Trump went unprepared rolled out red carpet for Putin, floated a few concessions without getting anything in return , foto op, Putin left before lunch.

 

Whant happened to the 50 day ultimatum?

Even more interesting, I looks like Trump has negotiated with a Putin double. The Putin in this meeting was the “round face” Putin double.

[cubsfan]

17 minutes ago, Spekulatius said:

Even more interesting, I looks like Trump has negotiated with a Putin double. The Putin in this meeting was the “round face” Putin double.

 

Note the totally ungrateful response from the hapless Europeans and the MSM.

Like a pack of second guessers - hoping Trump is not successful - while they do nothing. One man is trying to stop the killing.  Ukraine is Europe's war - that has been cheered on by the Europeans. And they have NO intention of fighting or solving the conflict. They want the United States to fight their fight - although they have the manpower, money and militaries to win this war or bring it to an end.

 

It's Europe's war - but once again, they need the USA to solve it.

 

How pitiful.