John Hjorth Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 9 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said: I'm about half invested in 4. Other half's cash. Blake [ @Blake Hampton ], Let me guess here : Tesla, Occidental Petroleum Corporation, Google?
Blake Hampton Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: Blake [ @Blake Hampton ], Let me guess here : Tesla, Occidental Petroleum Corporation, Google? Damn you're good. Edited June 9, 2025 by Blake Hampton
John Hjorth Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 Just now, Blake Hampton said: Damn you're good. Blake [ @Blake Hampton ], You bet I am. ... - Fourth position of yours?
Blake Hampton Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 2 minutes ago, John Hjorth said: Blake [ @Blake Hampton ], You bet I am. ... - Fourth position of yours? OTM MSTR calls.
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 9 hours ago, 73 Reds said: Pal, the only "war crime" was committed by those who started the war. Not necessarily true. There have been a number of unwarranted recorded killings of civilians by IDF...a number humanitarian blockades where they weren't really necessary as the food/water/etc would have been given to actual refugees/survivors primarily women and children...if not food, then what about medical care...bombardments and attacks in the middle of ceasefires. So, while some of the blood is certainly warranted...some of it is not and Bibi should be held accountable. Cheers!
lnofeisone Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 2 hours ago, ourkid8 said: I won't even respond to this ignorant Zionist propaganda, just do a basic search on what the Israeli cabinet is saying, former Israeli PM, President Trump, every aid agency, Canadian foreign minister Anita Anand, Canada's PM Mark Carney etc etc... What some selected in cabinet are saying and reality on the ground are vastly divergent. You don't have to like the facts but you can't invent them.
changegonnacome Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 49 minutes ago, cubsfan said: I think this is the best summary of the situation I've heard. I feel for the Gazans, but they have brought this upon themselves. You given them billions of dollars over many, many years - and instead of creating a great country, they put all the money to the destruction of Israel. You can not help someone like that. 2 hours ago, 73 Reds said: These are not ordinary civilians. These people were literally dead the moment they were born into a terrorist, irrationally evil regime and then brainwashed with hate from day one. They have no chance, unless or until Hamas is extinguished. Buffett often talks about how we, here in the West won the birthright lottery. These people lost and will never recover until the likes of Hamas is permanently gone. These two posts are as extreme as the lunatics running around Manhattan with Hamas flags - the two extreme sides of the same extremist coin. I'm afraid to say that you both seem to have been radicalized yourselfs........just on the opposite side of the spectrum. What you've both described above is exactly the mental trickery used by regimes engaged in genocidal acts....it completely abstracts away any responsibility for military costs inflicted on non-combatants...."they brought this on themselves" "they are not ordinary civilians".... Israel had the right and the responsibility to defend itself post-Oct 7th.....it also had the right and duty to rescue its hostages...I cheered on every military success they had defeating hamas......but that right is not unlimited....maybe we can agree that one hostage freed in exchange for a million dead women and children breaks some ethical or moral code? As Israel has scaled into this conflict, as the body count of children has risen, as human suffering has risen, as the cities have been levelled and then levelled again and the military objectives/wins/upside have been less clear and less frequent as time as gone on (relative to the deaths/casualties)......this Israeli government has crossed some hard to define line between a just war with balanced offensive and defensive objectives....into something else......when you fight monsters you need to be careful not to become a monster yourself. The US should do everything in its power to force Nentahyou to go to his people for an election....its time for the Israeli people to decide what happens next in Gaza and not Bibi and a cobbled together ragtag political coalition put together pre-Oct 7th to keep Bibi out of prison.
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 8 hours ago, Xerxes said: where do you get this stuff ? What has one thing to do with another Israel owns Gaza/Hamas problem. Period. Iran or not, there is a problem there. Stop repeating Israeli propaganda I'm quoting the State Department through seven different administrations. Not quoting Israel. Iran is one of the primary funders of Hamas and Hezbollah. From a non-affiliated source among thousands: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/oct/analysis-hamas-and-hezbollah-how-they-are-different-and-why-they-might-cooperate-against Cheers!
John Hjorth Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 6 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said: OTM MSTR calls. Thank you for sharing, Blake [ @Blake Hampton ], , - - - o 0 o - - - Now, how did I compose my guess of your portfolio? - I'm not going to tell, unless you ask me to!
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 6 hours ago, Blake Hampton said: I've read a lot about the Holocaust, and I strongly recommend others do the same. These are among some of the best books ever written: Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl If This Is a Man by Primo Levi Night by Elie Wiesel I feel like if the victims of the Holocaust could see what's happening in Gaza right now, many of them would be ashamed of Israel. There are a number of Holocaust survivors against what is happening in Gaza right now...but they are also seeking peace from the parties attacking Israel. They aren't simply disgusted by Israel's behavior, but want peace throughout the Middle East...unfortunately, that has been very elusive! Cheers!
Blake Hampton Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 Just now, John Hjorth said: Thank you for sharing, Blake [ @Blake Hampton ], , - - - o 0 o - - - Now, how did I compose my guess of your portfolio? - I'm not going to tell, unless you ask me to! Please tell.
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 6 hours ago, Blake Hampton said: Please tell us your media routine Cubs: What do you read or watch every morning? C'mon, we know what he watches every morning! NewsMax and then Kelly and Mark! Cheers!
cubsfan Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 6 minutes ago, changegonnacome said: These two posts are as extreme as the lunatics running around Manhattan with Hamas flags - the two extreme sides of the same extremist coin. I'm afraid to say that you both seem to have been radicalized yourselfs........just on the opposite side of the spectrum. What you've both described above is exactly the mental trickery used by regimes engaged in genocidal acts....it completely abstracts away any responsibility for military costs inflicted on non-combatants...."they brought this on themselves" "they are not ordinary civilians".... Israel had the right and the responsibility to defend itself post-Oct 7th.....it also had the right and duty to rescue its hostages...I cheered on every military success they had defeating hamas......but that right is not unlimited....maybe we can agree that one hostage freed in exchange for a million dead women and children breaks some ethical or moral code? As Israel has scaled into this conflict, as the body count of children has risen, as human suffering has risen, as the cities have been levelled and then levelled again and the military objectives/wins/upside have been less clear and less frequent as time as gone on (relative to the deaths/casualties)......this Israeli government has crossed some hard to define line between a just war with balanced offensive and defensive objectives....into something else......when you fight monsters you need to be careful not to become a monster yourself. The US should do everything in its power to force Nentahyou to go to his people for an election....its time for the Israeli people to decide what happens next in Gaza and not Bibi and a cobbled together ragtag political coalition put together pre-Oct 7th to keep Bibi out of prison. Give me a break. Hamas is still fighting on. They are going to lose this war, but refuse to give up. The last stages of the war are the ugliest, as they losers refuse to give up and lay down their arms. Enough of the gaslighting.
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 5 hours ago, Marco Van Basten said: Nazis executed dozens of my relatives. I have visited several concentration camps. I don't need books to tell me what happened. You pontificate here about something you know nothing about. I have yet to see a suggestion from you or anyone else how to: a) get hostages back; b) punish terrorists what they did; c) make sure that people who voted and supported and continue to support Hamas never again support an organization that is dedicated to wiping a neighboring country of the map. Come up with suggestions and then we can discuss. All this hand waving is irrelevant. Tell me your solution and why it will work! Yeah, the most simple question to all of this and suspending the war is "why haven't the rest of the hostages (alive or dead) been returned to their families?" If Hamas is so interested in peace, then Blake and oukid8, why haven't the hostages been returned? This is the most basic request from Israel to end this, yet they seem to be returning the victims in fits and starts to prolong the anger and pain. Cheers!
Blake Hampton Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 (edited) People should really read about Netanyahu's past; dude has been pretty radical basically his whole life: Quote Rallies organized by Likud and other right-wing groups featured depictions of Rabin in a Nazi SS uniform, or in the crosshairs of a gun. Protesters compared the Labor party to the Nazis and Rabin to Adolf Hitler and chanted, "Rabin is a murderer" and "Rabin is a traitor". In July 1995, Netanyahu led a mock funeral procession featuring a coffin and hangman's noose at an anti-Rabin rally where protesters chanted, "Death to Rabin". The chief of internal security, Carmi Gillon, then alerted Netanyahu of a plot on Rabin's life and asked him to moderate the protests' rhetoric, which Netanyahu declined to do. Netanyahu denied any intention to incite violence. Wikipedia: Assassination of Yitzhak Rabin Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, who helped organize the Oslo Peace Accords under the Clinton administration, was assassinated by far-right law student Yigal Amir on November 4th, 1995. There's a really good interview between Andrew Ross Sorkin and Bill Clinton, where Bill ends up talking about Rabin. He's almost crying when he says "whom I think loved as much as I ever loved another man." and "I have my regrets, that's one of them." It's around 37:30 to 38:30. Like I said, the interview is really good, and I watched all of it. I see why people liked this man. Edited June 9, 2025 by Blake Hampton
Blake Hampton Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 24 minutes ago, Parsad said: Yeah, the most simple question to all of this and suspending the war is "why haven't the rest of the hostages (alive or dead) been returned to their families?" If Hamas is so interested in peace, then Blake and oukid8, why haven't the hostages been returned? This is the most basic request from Israel to end this, yet they seem to be returning the victims in fits and starts to prolong the anger and pain. Cheers! Cause humans are stupid.
ourkid8 Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Parsad said: Yeah, the most simple question to all of this and suspending the war is "why haven't the rest of the hostages (alive or dead) been returned to their families?" If Hamas is so interested in peace, then Blake and oukid8, why haven't the hostages been returned? This is the most basic request from Israel to end this, yet they seem to be returning the victims in fits and starts to prolong the anger and pain. Cheers! @Parsad unfortunately that’s not the case as Israeli is NOT looking for peace. Hamas has not returned the hostages, as they require a permanent ceasefire and Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, which Israel rejects. Israel insists on the hostages' immediate release without precondition. Israeli wasn’t even able to keep their word on the temporary ceasefire. These guys are a bunch of thugs who enjoy killing unarmed woman and children, that’s all. Edited June 9, 2025 by ourkid8
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 7 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said: Cause humans are stupid. Yeah, that doesn't fly. The obvious answer is that Hamas is using them to shield themselves...like they do with their OWN citizens and people! There is no virtue in such behavior...only cowardice! Cheers!
Xerxes Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 50 minutes ago, Parsad said: I'm quoting the State Department through seven different administrations. Not quoting Israel. Iran is one of the primary funders of Hamas and Hezbollah. From a non-affiliated source among thousands: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/oct/analysis-hamas-and-hezbollah-how-they-are-different-and-why-they-might-cooperate-against Cheers! That is not what I meant. Everybody knows that. My comment was about your insinuation that the “Palestinian Question” is an Iranian creation. Iran or not, the issue was there, is there, will be there. On-going since 1948. As far as sponsoring and funding terrorism since you brought that up, Israel has been the biggest source of terrorism in the West Bank. Wearing uniforms and being organized into battalions doesn’t make you immune to being called out for it. Gaza is different. War was brought to them. Even with Bibi sucking up to Hamas, that didn’t stop Hamas being ultimately what Hamas really is.
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 11 minutes ago, ourkid8 said: @Parsad unfortunately that’s not the case as Israeli is NOT looking for peace. Hamas has not returned the hostages, as they require a permanent ceasefire and Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, which Israel rejects. Israel insists on the hostages' immediate release without precondition. Israeli wasn’t even able to keep their word on the cease fires, these guys are a bunch of thugs who enjoy killing unarmed woman and children, that’s all. That's garbage! Why aren't the hostages returned if Hamas wants peace? You can blame Israel's government for the humanitarian issues, but Hamas is full of the same stupidity and a level of cowardice that Israel does not display. Cheers!
Blake Hampton Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 2 minutes ago, Parsad said: Yeah, that doesn't fly. The obvious answer is that Hamas is using them to shield themselves...like they do with their OWN citizens and people! There is no virtue in such behavior...only cowardice! Cheers! I use the word stupid to define irrational people, and this is an irrational behavior to me. I think these Hamas guys were probably underfed as babies. Didn't quite develop enough in the brain department.
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 2 minutes ago, Xerxes said: That is not what I meant. Everybody knows that. My comment was about your insinuation that the “Palestinian Question” is an Iranian creation. Iran or not, the issue was there, is there, will be there. On-going since 1948. I think you also misunderstood what I meant. I was simply saying that Iran is one of the primary state-funders of Hamas and Hezbollah...if Israel chooses a nuclear strike if they feel their existence is threatened, the most likely target is Iran. Ending Hamas at the cost of 2M in lives versus Israel choosing a nuclear strike and 20M in Iran dying. Cheers!
Blake Hampton Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 Also @Parsad, you’ve got me thinking about buying a bone china mug now. So congrats I guess.
Spekulatius Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 3 hours ago, cwericb said: Look people, you might not like this, but it is a fact.... During war a country’s civilian population is generally held responsible for the actions of their leaders. (Not mentioning any names, but be careful who you vote for!) From March to August 1945, the US firebombed Japanese cities, burning to death approximately 350,000 civilians. Another 120,000 people were obliterated in the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. (Why people are so critical of the A-bomb while ignoring the fire bombing, I don't really understand.) In Germany, Dresden was firebombed incinerating another 25,000 civilians when the RAF and the USAF fire bombed the city which had no military significance as it was a cultural center. So it is the civilians who often pay the price in war. On Dresden, later studies from the Allied also found out that it did little or nothing to end the war. instead, targeted bombing of the electricity grid would have potentially brought down the German war machinery much earlier than it occurred. So the Dresden bombing is not exactly a great advertisement for bombing civic land even if you take the moral aspects away I also recommend to watch Vietnam documentaries . There is a good one Vietnam turning point on Netflix right now. What is clear that bombing civilians villages wasn’t exactly a winning strategy and lead to more requirement for the Vietcong from formerly neutral or even friendly population. Also in Afghanistan, the US military for all its faults tried to separate erste friend from foe and avoid indiscriminate bombings. I guess it boils to the question of a genocide justifies the opposing side using genocide too. I think it does not.
Parsad Posted June 9, 2025 Posted June 9, 2025 4 minutes ago, Blake Hampton said: Also @Parsad, you’ve got me thinking about buying a bone china mug now. So congrats I guess. Swear to God...the coffee and tea taste better. I'm not sure if it's because of the thinness of the cup lip or design of the lip. The coffee and tea hit the right spots of your taste buds with each sip. Only problem is if you like a big cup of tea or coffee, you might have to pour yourself two cups instead of one, since they don't hold as much. Cheers!
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