clutch Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 I'm pretty sure that large scale nursing homes are less common in East/Southeast Asian countries. It's customary for sons/daughters to live together with elderly parents and take care of them. Might explain the lower death rates in Singapore, Japan, and South Korea.
Dalal.Holdings Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Do u remember when we had Presidents who weren't sociopaths? Pepperidge Farm remembers (it was only pre-Jan 2017)...
Dalal.Holdings Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 I'm pretty sure that large scale nursing homes are less common in East/Southeast Asian countries. It's customary for sons/daughters to live together with elderly parents and take care of them. Might explain the lower death rates in Singapore, Japan, and South Korea. Sons/daughters living with elders could make things worse. This was one of the theories as to why Italy had such a bad outbreak--elderly in frequent, close contact with younger relatives.
clutch Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 I'm pretty sure that large scale nursing homes are less common in East/Southeast Asian countries. It's customary for sons/daughters to live together with elderly parents and take care of them. Might explain the lower death rates in Singapore, Japan, and South Korea. Sons/daughters living with elders could make things worse. This was one of the theories as to why Italy had such a bad outbreak--elderly in frequent, close contact with younger relatives. Massive outbreaks at nursing homes are less likely, though. In many countries, the majority of deaths occurred in nursing homes and long-term care facilities.
clutch Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Also maybe, the disease doesn't spread at homes because while they live together, they never hug or kiss the elderly in Asian countries. ;D
Investor20 Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 According to some articles, the migrant workers who live together in Singapore got high infection rate, who are young and healthy. The government was able to protect old and vulnerable and low infection rates in older people. Together they had high infection rate with low deaths - low fatality rate. This argues against closing colleges and sending college students back home from dorms. It will be interesting to see the antibody tests in SE asian country by age vs Europe/US.
arcube Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 Propaganda video with a hint of truth. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-01/china-state-media-propaganda-video-mock-us-coronavirus/12204836
RichardGibbons Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 The video's amusing, but clearly propaganda. Both the CCP and Trump screwed up, and spinning it as entirely a USA problem is pretty ridiculous. The thing is, because of polarized politics in the USA, a significant number of Americans may support this propaganda. Putin certainly got his money's worth.
arcube Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 The video's amusing, but clearly propaganda. Both the CCP and Trump screwed up, and spinning it as entirely a USA problem is pretty ridiculous. The thing is, because of polarized politics in the USA, a significant number of Americans may support this propaganda. Putin certainly got his money's worth. Spot on RG.
Guest cherzeca Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/thousands-of-surgeries-cancelled-despite-empty-ontario-hospital-beds-fao resulting in 35 deaths from deferred care. extrapolate nationwide and you likely have thousands in North America
Spekulatius Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 So, here is Boris Johnson’s account: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52517996 The average guy in the UK would have had a different experience in the same situation. I think it is likely that the UK will invest more in their health care system going forward. Nothing convinces better than personal experience.
Gregmal Posted May 3, 2020 Posted May 3, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/05/03/crowds-gather-to-buy-new-air-jordan-sneakers-in-atlanta-after-lockdown-lifted/ LOL, business as usual...
Spekulatius Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Pretty good article about NM dealing with COVID-19 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/opinion/new-mexico-coronavirus-curve.html
sys Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 According to some articles, the migrant workers who live together in Singapore got high infection rate, who are young and healthy. yes, it's this. the cases are also recent and mortality will go up, but the large majority of cases in their recent outbreak are migrant workers who are significantly younger than the population at large. it makes a big difference. i believe the age structure of those infected also explains most of the low mortality in iceland.
Liberty Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Pence: ‘I should have worn a mask at the Mayo Clinic’ “I didn't think it was necessary, but I should have worn a mask at the Mayo Clinic and I wore it when I visited the ventilator plant in Indiana” two days later, Pence said at a Fox News virtual town hall on Sunday, nodding sheepishly. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/03/pence-should-have-worn-mask-mayo-clinic-233360 Wow, a non-sociopath reaction. We’re not used to that.
LC Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 He's OK endangering lives of Minnesotans, just not his native Indianans. What a patriot. Great VP. The best.
ERICOPOLY Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Wow, a non-sociopath reaction. We’re not used to that. Very unusual. My ex-wife was raised by politicians and from a young age she was coached by her father to "admit nothing, deny everything, and never put anything in writing". This raises a child who cannot take responsibility. I think it's common in a lot of these powerful families and nurtures narcissism and sociopathy.
Liberty Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Wow, a non-sociopath reaction. We’re not used to that. Very unusual. My ex-wife was raised by politicians and from a young age she was coached by her father to "admit nothing, deny everything, and never put anything in writing". This raises a child who cannot take responsibility. I think it's common in a lot of these powerful families and nurtures narcissism and sociopathy. Meanwhile Trump is talking about how unfair this whole situation is to him and how badly he's being treated in front of the Lincoln monument...
Spekulatius Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Wow, a non-sociopath reaction. We’re not used to that. Very unusual. My ex-wife was raised by politicians and from a young age she was coached by her father to "admit nothing, deny everything, and never put anything in writing". This raises a child who cannot take responsibility. I think it's common in a lot of these powerful families and nurtures narcissism and sociopathy. Meanwhile Trump is talking about how unfair this whole situation is to him and how badly he's being treated in front of the Lincoln monument... Everyone is concerned about him suffering.
DooDiligence Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Wow, a non-sociopath reaction. We’re not used to that. Very unusual. My ex-wife was raised by politicians and from a young age she was coached by her father to "admit nothing, deny everything, and never put anything in writing". This raises a child who cannot take responsibility. I think it's common in a lot of these powerful families and nurtures narcissism and sociopathy. Meanwhile Trump is talking about how unfair this whole situation is to him and how badly he's being treated in front of the Lincoln monument... The sun king imagines a grander monument to his royal self. I predict that he will propose ramrod one during the last days of his presidency, and it won't be no stinkin' library either.
Guest Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 I'd say almost all presidents are super egocentric. Trump may or may not be worse...but he's certainly worse at hiding it.
ERICOPOLY Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 I'd say almost all presidents are super egocentric. Trump may or may not be worse...but he's certainly worse at hiding it. He lacks self-awareness (as does a young child). Literally, his mind works like that of a child.
Liberty Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 I'd say almost all presidents are super egocentric. Trump may or may not be worse...but he's certainly worse at hiding it. Well, you have to have a pretty big ego to even run for president, that's not in question. But Trump is a different species.
Liberty Posted May 4, 2020 Posted May 4, 2020 Meanwhile, in Russia: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8282033/Third-Russian-doctor-plunges-coronavirus-hospital-window.html A third Russian doctor has plunged from a hospital window after complaining about medics facing intolerable coronavirus pressures. Alexander Shulepov, 37, is fighting for his life with head injuries after taking part in in a video which claimed he was ordered to work despite testing positive for Covid-19. He and colleagues also warned about PPE shortages in Voronezh city. Later - lying in a coronavirus hospital bed - Shulepov made a second video to retract the claims amid suspicions he was pressured to do so. On Saturday, while being treated at Novousmanskaya district hospital, the experienced ambulance doctor plunged from a second floor window sustaining skull fractures. He is now in a grave condition. Two senior women doctors in Russia have died recently after falling from hospital windows amid reports they had challenged their superiors over a lack of PPE for coronavirus patients.
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