Dynamic Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 I hadn't noticed the ticker change from BNY, but 13 April puts at $49.50 last sold for $0.75 according to NASDAQ
boilermaker75 Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 I hadn't noticed the ticker change from BNY, but 13 April puts at $49.50 last sold for $0.75 according to NASDAQ And I was the one selling!
John Hjorth Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 boilermaker & Dynamic, I like your picks. [isen't there a typo in your post, boilermaker?] John, There could be but I am not seeing it? I did mean BK, Bank of NY Mellon. Mike Mike, Thank you for your elaboration. I got it wrong as basis for my post, and I've now got it, thank you.
Dynamic Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Maybe if I open an account that supports options, I could get to like writing out of the money puts myself at prices where I'd be a willing buyer anyway. Getting paid $0.75 for $49.50 strike either means buying at effectively $48.75 or getting $0.75 per share return - close to 2% of the potential position in 9 days. It seems more attractive than a limit order at $48.75 except it can't be cancelled in the event of truly adverse news. For a high confidence stock trading fairly near my buy price it seems like a good way to profit from my willingness to buy even if the desired price doesn't materialize.
sleepydragon Posted April 4, 2018 Posted April 4, 2018 Wrote some BK $49.5-strike April 13 expiration puts for $0.75 per share. I was trying to buy the stock today but it went up too fast!!
boilermaker75 Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Wrote some BK $49.5-strike April 13 expiration puts for $0.75 per share. I was trying to buy the stock today but it went up too fast!! I tried to write some 50-strike April 6 expiration puts but missed on those because the price went up too fast and my limit order did not execute.
Liberty Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 Surprised at the lack of interest in CHTR at a price significantly lower than the price at which Rutledge and Malone just bought back 12% of the company... Or maybe people who are buying it just aren't mentioning it here.
valueyoda Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 I have been buying here, in addition to GLIBA and LBRDA
gokou3 Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 Surprised at the lack of interest in CHTR at a price significantly lower than the price at which Rutledge and Malone just bought back 12% of the company... Or maybe people who are buying it just aren't mentioning it here. I bought LBRDA one page ago. :) Hope CHTR can buy back another 8-10% of the shares in 2018.
dutchman Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 I think charter has said they won't be buying back much this year.
Liberty Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 Hope CHTR can buy back another 8-10% of the shares in 2018. They won't be buying as much because they reached their target leverage. Unless they decided to go above to grab an opportunity, but I don't think we'll see anything close to a 12% this year.
gokou3 Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 CHTR's 2017 EBITDA was $15.3B and let's say they will do $16B this year (4.6% yoy, vs 5.8% increase for 2017 vs 2016). That's a $700M increase which, with 4.5x leverage, results in another $3B of new debt. Then, EBITDA - capex - interest - tax ~ $16 - 9 - 3 - 0 = $4B cash generated from operations for buybacks or total $7B. With CHTR at ~$85B market value, that's 8.2%. My capex number is relatively high due to the MVNO investment which also may pull the EBITDA number down slightly.
Spekulatius Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 Looks like the NAV of LBRDA is about $91 vs a $83 share price- do folks here think that a 10% holding discount is a bargain? I typically look for larger discounts when looking at holding companies (even though this is pretty much a single asset holding company), due to the cost burden at the holding level.
Liberty Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 Looks like the NAVY of LBRDA is about $91 vs a $83 share price- do folks here think that a 10% holding discount is a bargain? I typically look for larger discounts when looking at holding companies (even though this is pretty much a single asset holding company), due to the cost burden at the holding level. Depends how tax-efficiently you think they can eventually collapse back into CHTR or sell... I'd also consider whether CHTR itself is undervalued currently, meaning that there's a discount on top of a discount..
Spekulatius Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 What makes you think I would short it? I look at LBRDA vs directly buying CHTR.
vince Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 I was under the impression that you didnt like Chtr
Spekulatius Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 I was under the impression that you didnt like Chtr Just asking questions. Even if I don’t like a stock, I don’t short it. I do own a bit of CMCSA and like it more, due to lower valuation and leverage.
rolling Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Bought davita yesterday at 64... It is the first buyback window after the announcement of the sale of HCP and it has pulled back a lot. Low earnings multiple, lower tax rate, low net debt after the deal, cannibal, a big runaway for expansion (international), a growing client base and expectations of profit after achieving scale in international markets.
boilermaker75 Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Wrote BK 54-strike, 4/20 expiration for $0.35 per share
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